Larry Foote is scheduled for a Visit

[Duckjake]

Seems that Washington will get first crack at Foote, per Rotoworld.

Good.

 

[Hypothesis]

Foote is probably the best option via FA for a 3-4 ILB, that we'll find this off season. He is a technically sound LB, won't wow you with stats, but is very disciplined and will always be in the right position. He is the kind of player that helps make a defensive unit as a whole good. Total team player. He struggled in his first season trying to play MLB in a 4-3, where he has spent every year of his career in a 3-4 with very different responsibilities. Coming back to a familiar system as ILB in a 3-4, he'll be just fine, though not spectacular.

 

[BigDavis75]

Kevin Greene was solid in Carolina. And I would call haggans a solid LB after leaving. Add in Chad Brown and I would say more left and remained productive than unproductive.

Lavon Kirkland and Greg Lloyd are the only LBs that slipped when they left, and Kirkland hurt his knee if I am not mistaken.

Earl Holmes.

Kendrell Bell.

Joey Porter to a lesser extent.

 

[Chopper0080]

Foote by himself will do very little to fill the holes that we have. Foote, Jamal Williams, Atogwe, and a solid draft, then we can talk about repeating as NFC West champs.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Let's not get crazy and over pay these FA's Mr. Graves. Spend wisely and structure the contracts team friendly.

 

[az jam]

Redskins | Foote to visit Monday Fri Mar 5, 08:41 PM
Updating a previous item, Larry Lage, of The Associated Press, reports free-agent LB Larry Foote (Lions) is scheduled to visit the Washington Redskins Monday, March 8.


Cardinals | Foote to visit Wednesday Fri Mar 5, 08:41 PM

Updating a previous item, Larry Lage, of The Associated Press, reports free-agent LB Larry Foote (Lions) is scheduled to visit the Arizona Cardinals Wednesday, March 10.


Hey may never get here if the Redskins offer him a fat contract

 

[Zeno]

If the Redskins offer him a "fat contract" they can have him. He isn't a high dollar free agent IMO.

 

[vince56]

Jamir Miller is to Rob Fredrickson as Karlos Dansby is to Larry Foote.

Not impressed.

 

[binkar]

why is Foote, a guy who's washed out with two teams in two years (one of them being THE LIONS)... a decent player?

i'm not bashing graves here... but what makes you think Foote's at all decent any more?

Is he an upgrade over Walker, Highsmith etc? We have ZERO depth at inside linebacker. Come on man.

I am not pumped on Foote like he is going to be a great player for us. But we have a slew of undrafted free agent players there.

 

[CardinalChris]

Jamir Miller is to Rob Fredrickson as Karlos Dansby is to Larry Foote.

Not impressed.

And Larry Foote is to Ali Highsmith what Jamir Miller is to Rob Fredrickson. Damage control. To say "I can't have the best, so why try to get better" doesn't make sense either.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Competition for Foote

Inside linebacker Larry Foote is drawing a decent amount of interest in free agency.

Foote is in Washington today visiting the Redskins and is due to arrive in Arizona Wednesday.

There is a report in today's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that Foote's old team, the Steelers, have interest in bringing him back. But Foote likely would be a backup with the Steelers, so that might not be as attractive as other places.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/75659

 

[wa52lz]

Earl Holmes.

Kendrell Bell.

Joey Porter to a lesser extent.

Dont forget Jason Gildon and Carlos Emmons as well

 

[Mulli]

Dont forget Jason Gildon and Carlos Emmons as well

Chad Brown.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Jamir Miller is to Rob Fredrickson as Karlos Dansby is to Larry Foote.

Not impressed.

If Larry can hold up as well as Fredrickson for a couple of years, I'll be more than happy.

 

[wa52lz]

And Larry Foote is to Ali Highsmith what Jamir Miller is to Rob Fredrickson. Damage control. To say "I can't have the best, so why try to get better" doesn't make sense either.

Lets hope so becuase Fredrickson came in and put up almost identical numbers to Millers 1998 #'s.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FredRo20.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillJa01.htm



199825ARILLB95 16 gm 3.0 sack 0 int 2ff 2fr 82tkl 31asst


199928ARILLB59 16 gm 2.0sack 2int 1td 3ff 1fr 9tkl1 34asst

Fredrickson actually made more ($1.501 mil) then Miller ($1.391 mil) in 1999 becuase he didnt hold out for "big money" and have to settle for a 1yr deal w/ the expansion Browns. Miller turned down 3 offers from the Cards including a take it or leave it deal in March, that was more then what the ended up giving Fredrickson. Once the March deal was turned down, they signed Fredrickson and then used the 2nd pick to draft Johnny Rutledge, who of course never panned out. The Cards offered a 1year deal after the draft to Miller and he declined. He didnt sign with the Browns until May, becuase there was no real market for him, lots of visits, Chicago, NE, etc, but no offers other then the Cards. They did what they could and moved on, Fredrickson/Rutledge. Cheapness was never and issue, dont buy into the myth that talk radio and Bidwill haters have been spewing for the last 7-8 years.

 

[FrustratedFan04]

Foote will not turn 30 until June. He's got more than enough left in the tank and will be an upgrade over what we have. No one says he's the equal of Dansby. But rotating him with others, such as Davis, Brown and maybe Porter"s not a bad scheme is it?

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Foote will not turn 30 until June. He's got more than enough left in the tank and will be an upgrade over what we have. No one says he's the equal of Dansby. But rotating him with others, such as Davis, Brown and maybe Porter"s not a bad scheme is it?

The rotation would be him and whomever we draft in response to Dansby's departure (Weatherspoon, I hope).

 

[kerouac9]

The rotation would be him and whomever we draft in response to Dansby's departure (Weatherspoon, I hope).

I'm starting to turn on this, and I think that Cards fans might want to brace themselves for it, as well. With Fred Robbins being signed by the Rams today, I think that we really might see the Cards drafting either Terrance Cody (ALA) or Dan Williams (TENN) in the first, and then picking up Jerry Hughes (TCU), Brandon Spikes (FLA), Navarro Bowman (Penn St.), Daryl Washington (TCU), Eric Norwood (South Carolina), Koa Misi (Utah), or Sean Lee (Penn St.) in the second round. The Cards do have the ammunition to move up in the second round if they have to and there's a run on the position.

There's just nothing out there now at the NT position, and the Cards are in trouble if they go into the season with only Watson and (maybe) Robinson manning the position again.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm starting to turn on this, and I think that Cards fans might want to brace themselves for it, as well. With Fred Robbins being signed by the Rams today, I think that we really might see the Cards drafting either Terrance Cody (ALA) or Dan Williams (TENN) in the first, and then picking up Jerry Hughes (TCU), Brandon Spikes (FLA), Navarro Bowman (Penn St.), Daryl Washington (TCU), Eric Norwood (South Carolina), Koa Misi (Utah), or Sean Lee (Penn St.) in the second round. The Cards do have the ammunition to move up in the second round if they have to and there's a run on the position.

There's just nothing out there now at the NT position, and the Cards are in trouble if they go into the season with only Watson and (maybe) Robinson manning the position again.

Just don't think, at this point, that they'd leave Weatherspoon on the board.

The DT/Nose part of the draft is at least 5 deep, and we can always grab a Jimmy Kennedy in the interim.

And, as you say - we can always package ourselves up in the second round where perhaps Cody could drop.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lets hope so becuase Fredrickson came in and put up almost identical numbers to Millers 1998 #'s.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FredRo20.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillJa01.htm



199825ARILLB95 16 gm 3.0 sack 0 int 2ff 2fr 82tkl 31asst


199928ARILLB59 16 gm 2.0sack 2int 1td 3ff 1fr 9tkl1 34asst

Fredrickson actually made more ($1.501 mil) then Miller ($1.391 mil) in 1999 becuase he didnt hold out for "big money" and have to settle for a 1yr deal w/ the expansion Browns. Miller turned down 3 offers from the Cards including a take it or leave it deal in March, that was more then what the ended up giving Fredrickson. Once the March deal was turned down, they signed Fredrickson and then used the 2nd pick to draft Johnny Rutledge, who of course never panned out. The Cards offered a 1year deal after the draft to Miller and he declined. He didnt sign with the Browns until May, becuase there was no real market for him, lots of visits, Chicago, NE, etc, but no offers other then the Cards. They did what they could and moved on, Fredrickson/Rutledge. Cheapness was never and issue, dont buy into the myth that talk radio and Bidwill haters have been spewing for the last 7-8 years.

you know what everyone here just LOVES to ignore re: Jamir? All anyone ever brings up is that he only got a one year deal... but what no one brings up after is that the only reason that happened was that he was a FA in a year where almost no one had any cap space and just 5 months later, he DID get a HUGE contract extension with the Browns worth 18 million over 4 years... in other words... he DID get that contract by finding a loop-hole in the cap... and he ended up being a Pro-Bowler. As opposed to Fredrickson who was meh and Rutledge who was AWFUL.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I think I'm the only one that thinks this could be one of the best FA pick ups of the offseason (if we get him). The guy is ONLY 30. His best years were with Pitt as a 3-4 ILB and last year he played out of position for that role by playing in Detroits crappy 4-3 defense. There he is one of the best players they have on defense. Here he wouldn't have to be. Does anybody really believe Karlos could have played in Detroit last year and been succesfull?

 

[kerouac9]

Just don't think, at this point, that they'd leave Weatherspoon on the board.

The DT/Nose part of the draft is at least 5 deep, and we can always grab a Jimmy Kennedy in the interim.

And, as you say - we can always package ourselves up in the second round where perhaps Cody could drop.

Maybe, but I think that there's a huge dropoff between Williams/Cody and the top 7 or 8 LBs after McClain and Weatherspoon. I'm not sure that there's that much of a difference between what someone line Weatherspoon will be able to bring and a healthy Sean Lee. But I think that the difference between Cody and Cam Thomas is going to be profound.

If you have any doubt about the relative value of the position, look at the franchise tags and who was available in free agency. If the Cards have an equivalent grade on Cody or Williams v. Weatherspoon, they have to take the NT.

Also, I don't think that Weatherspoon is going to be on the board when the Cards draft. Two more teams are transitioning to the 3-4 defense this offseason (Buffalo and Washington), which means that a lot of teams will be looking for LBs early in the draft.

 

[wa52lz]

you know what everyone here just LOVES to ignore re: Jamir? All anyone ever brings up is that he only got a one year deal... but what no one brings up after is that the only reason that happened was that he was a FA in a year where almost no one had any cap space and just 5 months later, he DID get a HUGE contract extension with the Browns worth 18 million over 4 years... in other words... he DID get that contract by finding a loop-hole in the cap... and he ended up being a Pro-Bowler. As opposed to Fredrickson who was meh and Rutledge who was AWFUL.

What gets brought up all the time is how the Cards were cheap and let everyone walk in 1999, which isnt true. They had cap issue like everyone else becuase they overpaid/made bad contract decisions, Plummer, Centers, Swann etc, not due to cheapness. The fact is they tried to sign Miller to a contract they could afford, while no one else was offering that money, let alone making him any offers until the Browns came along with the 1yr deal in May. What everyone talks about is Miller and Brown, not the fact they had to franchise Moore and sign 10-13 of there own RFA/UFA's that off season. Did Miller get his big contract eventually? yes, only beacuse the expansion Browns didnt have cap issues, did Rutlegde not pan out? yes, but cheapness has nothing to do with it.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

Maybe, but I think that there's a huge dropoff between Williams/Cody and the top 7 or 8 LBs after McClain and Weatherspoon. I'm not sure that there's that much of a difference between what someone line Weatherspoon will be able to bring and a healthy Sean Lee. But I think that the difference between Cody and Cam Thomas is going to be profound.

If you have any doubt about the relative value of the position, look at the franchise tags and who was available in free agency. If the Cards have an equivalent grade on Cody or Williams v. Weatherspoon, they have to take the NT.

Also, I don't think that Weatherspoon is going to be on the board when the Cards draft. Two more teams are transitioning to the 3-4 defense this offseason (Buffalo and Washington), which means that a lot of teams will be looking for LBs early in the draft.

I gotta agree with K9 on this. Filling a hole at ILB in a 3-4 is do-able but we NEED a DT to make any of this work. That doesn't even count what it would do to help out DD and CC (wow never realized both DE have the same letter to start their first and last name till now...weird...). If Cody or Williams is there vs Weatherspoon, I agree...Take the NT. It's a MUCH harder position to fill.

 

[az jam]

I gotta agree with K9 on this. Filling a hole at ILB in a 3-4 is do-able but we NEED a DT to make any of this work. That doesn't even count what it would do to help out DD and CC (wow never realized both DE have the same letter to start their first and last name till now...weird...). If Cody or Williams is there vs Weatherspoon, I agree...Take the NT. It's a MUCH harder position to fill.

I don't see Williams being there when we draft as most have him going in the top 20. However I do think that Cody will be there and we should take him. But the Cards scouting staff (obviously) will have more information on him then we do.