LB and TPE for Turk and Childress

[mojorizen7]

I can honestly say other than when they played phx i didn't see any of toronto last year. I knew hedo had a bad year, but i didn't know it was this bad:

ppg: 11.3
fgp: .409

Hopefully he's not done.

IMO he benefitted greatly from Orlando having the rock in the middle that was D.Howard. I watched most of their playoff games that season when Turk was lighting it up,getting to loose balls...basically playing out of his mind.
We've currently got a bean bag in the middle(no offense Lopez,you just need help)...so we're gonna need SOMETHING to draw attention inside,hence the giddy talk of trading for an Al Jefferson.

 

[Chaplin]

David West? He averaged 7.5 rebounds per game last year, and he's no better than Amare defensively. Actually all the guys mentioned so far here (Randolph, Jefferson, and West) are pretty poor defenders. Jefferson has had injury problems. Randolph is a head case. Besides, someone would have to explain to me why Memphis would make that trade. It doesn't make any sense to me.

One thing is for certain. If Robin Lopez has more back problems this season the Phoenix Suns might have the worst defensive starting lineup in recent memory. The Turkoglu/Steve Nash combination is hardly going to make people forget that Amare Stoudemire/Steve Nash combination on defense.

Joe

Ok, that's another one who doesn't like the deal.

For everyone that is a little leery of Turkoglu playing PF, Just did some research and if they are correct, ESPN has Channing at 6'11" 245lbs, Hakim Warrick 6'9" 219lbs and Hedo 6'10" 220lbs. Channing is definitely taller, but Hedo is at worst the same size as Warrick and nobody here had much of a problem considering him a PF.

 

[Folster]

I'm starting to regret mentioning fantasy and Kevin Love in the same sentence.

Steve

At least Rudy Gay wasn't mentioned.

 

[Chaplin]

IMO he benefitted greatly from Orlando having the rock in the middle that was D.Howard. I watched most of their playoff games that season when Turk was lighting it up,getting to loose balls...basically playing out of his mind.
We've currently got a bean bag in the middle(no offense Lopez,you just need help)...so we're gonna need SOMETHING to draw attention inside,hence the giddy talk of trading for an Al Jefferson.

He also had Jameer Nelson in Orlando feeding him the ball and Jarrett Jack in Toronto. Steve Nash is better than both those guys.

 

[jagu]

I don't really find Hedo's contract that bad. It's pretty tradeable if he can rebound back to better numbers. He is a big PF with shooting ability and a lot of teams would want to add that in the middle of a season.

 

[JS22]

If the Suns could somehow pull off a Richardson for Jefferson trade, as much as I like Richardson, I'd be ecstatic. Instant contender.

 

[SirStefan32]

David West? He averaged 7.5 rebounds per game last year, and he's no better than Amare defensively. Actually all the guys mentioned so far here (Randolph, Jefferson, and West) are pretty poor defenders. Jefferson has had injury problems. Randolph is a head case. Besides, someone would have to explain to me why Memphis would make that trade. It doesn't make any sense to me.

One thing is for certain. If Robin Lopez has more back problems this season the Phoenix Suns might have the worst defensive starting lineup in recent memory. The Turkoglu/Steve Nash combination is hardly going to make people forget that Amare Stoudemire/Steve Nash combination on defense.

Joe

Actually, Hedo is a decent defender. He's no Ron Artest, but he is not a defensive liability. David West is not a great defender either, but he is no worse than Amare defensively, while being a superior rebounder and a competent scorer. Jefferson is probably the best rebounder in that bunch, has nice low post game, and is not worse than Amare defensively either.
Not sure about Randolph though. Good scorer and rebounder, but no defense, and on top of all that, he is crazy.

 

[mojorizen7]

Childress is an excellent addition,Hedo can play.....
All i'm saying is the same folks that complain about clogging Steve Nash's lane with too many bigs need to understand that it works both ways.

You cant go out and get a team full of small,skinny 3pt shooters and expect to get a ton of open shots. This isn't 2005 anymore.

 

[Chaplin]

I think we should just concede that Hedo was pretty awful last year--but that is the big exception to the rule because he's been good everywhere else he's been. And he's coming to a system that he fits in perfectly--I'm looking forward to a bounce-back year from him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm flabbergasted. I mean...flabbergasted. I guess I like the Childress signing and getting rid of barbs but unless something else is coming down the pike as far as some kind of legit PF, it appears as if this team is completely content winning 45-50 games forever.

eh... if they somehow got Jefferson, that would certainly be more interesting... but, yeah, I'm floored and confused.

 

[SirStefan32]

What about Al Harrington if there is no way to swing a trade for Jefferson? What other PF's are available?

 

[elindholm]

Just Say No to Al Harrington. Dude blows.

 

[mojorizen7]

I'm hearing we traded a future 2nd rd pick to Atlanta also. No biggie,just thought i'd report.
I'll try to find link.

 

[mojorizen7]

Just Say No to Al Harrington. Dude blows.

This.

 

[SirStefan32]

Perhaps Tim Thomas could be signed for cheap (again).

 

[Chaplin]

Perhaps Tim Thomas could be signed for cheap (again).

Wrong kind of player to bring in, already have enough of them.

 

[SunsTzu]

Perhaps Tim Thomas could be signed for cheap (again).

Should have done that before signing Frye.

 

[mojorizen7]

NEW YORK (SI.com) -- Looking to fill the void created by Amar'e Stoudemire's departure, the Suns are working on two deals that would bring Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress to Phoenix, according to the Arizona Republic.
In the first trade, the Suns would send veteran guard Leandro Barbosa to Toronto in exchange for Turkoglu, a playmaking forward who struggled with the Raptors last season but was named the NBA's Most Improved Player just two years ago with Orlando.
In a sign-and-trade with the Hawks, the Suns would acquire Childress, a 6-foot-8 forward who averaged 11.1 points per game over four seasons with Atlanta, according to the Arizona Republic. Childress played for the Greek team Olympiakos the last two seasons, but his rights are still owned by the Hawks.
Childress would sign a five-year, $30 million deal with Atlanta before being shipped off to Phoenix for a future second-round pick and a portion of a trade exception.
The Suns, who lost in the Western Conference finals this past spring, also recently re-signed center Channing Frye and inked free agent forward Hakim Warrick.
Turkoglu is represented by Lon Babby, who is reportedly a candidate to replace Steve Kerr as the president of the Suns' basketball operation. Childress was previously represented by Babby before leaving the agent for Octagon.​

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20.../suns.near.two.deals/index.html#ixzz0tRbsORh3http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/07/12/suns.near.two.deals/index.html​

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[mojorizen7]

Wrong kind of player to bring in, already have enough of them.

That.

 

[slinslin]

David West? He averaged 7.5 rebounds per game last year, and he's no better than Amare defensively. Actually all the guys mentioned so far here (Randolph, Jefferson, and West) are pretty poor defenders. Jefferson has had injury problems. Randolph is a head case. Besides, someone would have to explain to me why Memphis would make that trade. It doesn't make any sense to me.

One thing is for certain. If Robin Lopez has more back problems this season the Phoenix Suns might have the worst defensive starting lineup in recent memory. The Turkoglu/Steve Nash combination is hardly going to make people forget that Amare Stoudemire/Steve Nash combination on defense.

Joe

All big name Power Forwards are terrible defenders. The only exceptions are really centers like Duncan and MAYBE Nowitzki and Gasol.

 

[Chaplin]

All big name Power Forwards are terrible defenders. The only exceptions are really centers like Duncan and MAYBE Nowitzki and Gasol.

Did you just write that an exception to the "big name PFs that are terrible defenders" is Dirk Nowitzki? Seriously?

 

[SunsTzu]

All big name Power Forwards are terrible defenders. The only exceptions are really centers like Duncan and MAYBE Nowitzki and Gasol.

Which is why I was holding out hope for pursuing Horford next year, guy can ball on both ends.

Not possible now, even though it was a real long shot anyway.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I love this move.

 

[mojorizen7]

Which is why I was holding out hope for pursuing Horford next year, guy can ball on both ends.

Not possible now, even though it was a real long shot anyway.

I'm no capologist(i leave that to ya'll) but even with JRich's expiring?

 

[mojorizen7]

I love this move.

I do too,but there's got to be a plan to at some point get a big rebounding PF in here....tomorrow or next season.