Logan Thomas not making progress

[Mitch]

BA never had any intention of playing LT last year---he said it from the start that LT would be a 2-3 year project.

The problem was that BA also never figured he would need to play a #3 QB and thus, even though LT was forced to play in the Denver game, he had still not been given any reps with the starters.

LT had been serving as the scout team QB and wasn't even running BA's offense.

Clearly, LT did not know the offense very well at all...which is mostly on the coaches.

They signed Lindley because he knew the offense---not because they thought he was a more talented QB.

Jimmy Garoppolo threw 5 interceptions in OTA's the other day---the Patriots encourage their QBs to take risks in practice, because they feel the QBs learn best by making the mistakes in practice.

Therefore, at this stage of the off-season, to judge Thomas or anyone else on what's transpiring in the OTAs is very pre-mature.

Young QB are going to struggle until they start getting major reps and game experience.

And let's not forget that it took Carson Palmer a whole off-season and 8 games to start gaining a command of BA's offense.

In Logan Thomas, with his size, mobility and arm strength, BA gambled on greatness. BA felt that he could groom him and coach him up. Now's the time to see if he can. But, to call him a wasted pick at this point, is not fair to him or to BA and the coaches.

 

[Goldfield]

I said it at the time and I'll say it again: he's not an NFL QB. It's a wasted pick and it cost the Cards dearly last year when they didn't have a playable third QB.

No the Cardinals made a mistake not going and getting a veteran QB the min they knew Palmer was done for the year.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

No the Cardinals made a mistake not going and getting a veteran QB the min they knew Palmer was done for the year.

This. I know it's been discussed over and over because of who was available, but they should of signed a vet.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I still remember the preseason game last year where he looked like he we getting it. He made some real good passes, was going through his reads and looked comfortable.

what I remember about the pre-season game even more was one of the board members who thought it was crazy that his highlights didn't get a segment on Sportscenter, which I in turn thought was even crazier.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I said it at the time and I'll say it again: he's not an NFL QB. It's a wasted pick and it cost the Cards dearly last year when they didn't have a playable third QB.

the issue with this is even if they hadn't drafted him, Lindley probably would have been the 3rd QB... just like he was the previous season.

reality is that NO ONE has a playable 3rd QB. most teams don't even have a playable 2nd QB.

 

[Goldfield]

the issue with this is even if they hadn't drafted him, Lindley probably would have been the 3rd QB... just like he was the previous season.

reality is that NO ONE has a playable 3rd QB. most teams don't even have a playable 2nd QB.

Yup. There had to be a veteran that was,a better option.

 

[cardncubfan]

Yup. There had to be a veteran that was,a better option.

Don't know who that would be though. Definitely not Tebow. I can't think of one veteran that wasn't 40 plus that was available & was a better option.

 

[juza76]

Don't know who that would be though. Definitely not Tebow. I can't think of one veteran that wasn't 40 plus that was available & was a better option.

even the football passing machine could be used instead of thomas

 

[Jim Otis]

reality is that NO ONE has a playable 3rd QB. most teams don't even have a playable 2nd QB.

This !!! and some teams are struggling with their #1 QB .
Lindley and Thomas were problems for sure, but our biggest problem in 2014 was plain old Murphy's Law . Down the stretch we lost Stanton , and Ellington + HB broke his thumb , missed games , Fitz injured knee , missed games . More than any QB problems , Murphy's Law choked the life out of our team . I just don't see where someQB not named Lindley or Thomas was going to save our team .

 

[cardfaninfl]

If the biggest problem this year (before Training Camp starts) is our 3rd string, Scout Team, quarterback in his second year that was a mid round draft pick who even his biggest supporters knew had a PowerBall ticket chance of working out is not making progress... I'm good.

 

[ajcardfan]

BA never had any intention of playing LT last year---he said it from the start that LT would be a 2-3 year project.

The problem was that BA also never figured he would need to play a #3 QB and thus, even though LT was forced to play in the Denver game, he had still not been given any reps with the starters.

LT had been serving as the scout team QB and wasn't even running BA's offense.

Clearly, LT did not know the offense very well at all...which is mostly on the coaches.

They signed Lindley because he knew the offense---not because they thought he was a more talented QB.

Jimmy Garoppolo threw 5 interceptions in OTA's the other day---the Patriots encourage their QBs to take risks in practice, because they feel the QBs learn best by making the mistakes in practice.

Therefore, at this stage of the off-season, to judge Thomas or anyone else on what's transpiring in the OTAs is very pre-mature.

Young QB are going to struggle until they start getting major reps and game experience.

And let's not forget that it took Carson Palmer a whole off-season and 8 games to start gaining a command of BA's offense.

In Logan Thomas, with his size, mobility and arm strength, BA gambled on greatness. BA felt that he could groom him and coach him up. Now's the time to see if he can. But, to call him a wasted pick at this point, is not fair to him or to BA and the coaches.

I believe more in Preston Parsons and John Navarre QB futures than I believe in Thomas'. And don't give me this "Thomas is at least on a current roster" crap.

 

[Cardiac]

BA never had any intention of playing LT last year---he said it from the start that LT would be a 2-3 year project.

The problem was that BA also never figured he would need to play a #3 QB and thus, even though LT was forced to play in the Denver game, he had still not been given any reps with the starters.

LT had been serving as the scout team QB and wasn't even running BA's offense.

Clearly, LT did not know the offense very well at all...which is mostly on the coaches.

They signed Lindley because he knew the offense---not because they thought he was a more talented QB.

Jimmy Garoppolo threw 5 interceptions in OTA's the other day---the Patriots encourage their QBs to take risks in practice, because they feel the QBs learn best by making the mistakes in practice.

Therefore, at this stage of the off-season, to judge Thomas or anyone else on what's transpiring in the OTAs is very pre-mature.

Young QB are going to struggle until they start getting major reps and game experience.

And let's not forget that it took Carson Palmer a whole off-season and 8 games to start gaining a command of BA's offense.

In Logan Thomas, with his size, mobility and arm strength, BA gambled on greatness. BA felt that he could groom him and coach him up. Now's the time to see if he can. But, to call him a wasted pick at this point, is not fair to him or to BA and the coaches.

Cosign

 

[cardsfanmd]

BA never had any intention of playing LT last year---he said it from the start that LT would be a 2-3 year project.

The problem was that BA also never figured he would need to play a #3 QB and thus, even though LT was forced to play in the Denver game, he had still not been given any reps with the starters.

LT had been serving as the scout team QB and wasn't even running BA's offense.

Clearly, LT did not know the offense very well at all...which is mostly on the coaches.

They signed Lindley because he knew the offense---not because they thought he was a more talented QB.

Jimmy Garoppolo threw 5 interceptions in OTA's the other day---the Patriots encourage their QBs to take risks in practice, because they feel the QBs learn best by making the mistakes in practice.

Therefore, at this stage of the off-season, to judge Thomas or anyone else on what's transpiring in the OTAs is very pre-mature.

Young QB are going to struggle until they start getting major reps and game experience.

And let's not forget that it took Carson Palmer a whole off-season and 8 games to start gaining a command of BA's offense.

In Logan Thomas, with his size, mobility and arm strength, BA gambled on greatness. BA felt that he could groom him and coach him up. Now's the time to see if he can. But, to call him a wasted pick at this point, is not fair to him or to BA and the coaches.

Agree 100%

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

Oh for the days when "all we had" were 3rd string quarterbacks. The decisions were so much easier then.

The truth is; nowadays the conversations about 3rd string guards are more interesting.

 

[ARZCardinals]

my mom is a better qb than Thomas
That dude SUCKS
He sucked in college
How the heck we drafted him I'll never know
the scout should have his job taken...and anyone involved should be punished accordingly

 

[TJ]

BA never had any intention of playing LT last year---he said it from the start that LT would be a 2-3 year project.

The problem was that BA also never figured he would need to play a #3 QB and thus, even though LT was forced to play in the Denver game, he had still not been given any reps with the starters.

LT had been serving as the scout team QB and wasn't even running BA's offense.

Clearly, LT did not know the offense very well at all...which is mostly on the coaches.

They signed Lindley because he knew the offense---not because they thought he was a more talented QB.

Jimmy Garoppolo threw 5 interceptions in OTA's the other day---the Patriots encourage their QBs to take risks in practice, because they feel the QBs learn best by making the mistakes in practice.

Therefore, at this stage of the off-season, to judge Thomas or anyone else on what's transpiring in the OTAs is very pre-mature.

Young QB are going to struggle until they start getting major reps and game experience.

And let's not forget that it took Carson Palmer a whole off-season and 8 games to start gaining a command of BA's offense.

In Logan Thomas, with his size, mobility and arm strength, BA gambled on greatness. BA felt that he could groom him and coach him up. Now's the time to see if he can. But, to call him a wasted pick at this point, is not fair to him or to BA and the coaches.

I'll buy this. I have little faith in Thomas developing into an NFL QB. That said, the talk of Sims and Harnish pushing him for the #3 job could simply be motivation. Those kind of decisions fortunately aren't made until August, so there's still time. From a physical standpoint, Logan is lightyears better, so my hope is he figures it out, despite my reluctance to buy stock in him.

And if Thomas doesn't work, oh well. At least we're complaining about our #3 QB as opposed to our #1 QB, which has been nomenclature for this team for many years.

 

[cardncubfan]

my mom is a better qb than Thomas
That dude SUCKS
He sucked in college
How the heck we drafted him I'll never know
the scout should have his job taken...and anyone involved should be punished accordingly

Smh.

 

[Darkside]

^^pretty sure he was being facetious.

That being said, I've never read so much angst about a 3rd string QB not panning out.

So what.

The important point isn't that we wasted a draft pick, that happens all the time, it's that they diagnosed his craptacular lack of potential early. No offense to Whiz, because I'm a supporter, but he played around with Skelton for years. Years. BA never even let Thomas see the field unless it was dire circumstances.

 

[Rivercard]

I can't think of one veteran that wasn't 40 plus that was available & was a better option.

Dare I say it...... Matt Leinart

 

[az jam]

BA from MiniCamp today(Tuesday):

Mike Jurecki ‏@mikejurecki
BA on QB Logan Thomas "He still a work in progress, he still makes those wild throws and you scratch your head sometimes."

 

[cardpa]

BA from MiniCamp today(Tuesday):

Mike Jurecki ‏@mikejurecki
BA on QB Logan Thomas "He still a work in progress, he still makes those wild throws and you scratch your head sometimes."

Not good, you just can't teach accuracy. What I see here is another Derek (Scud) Anderson in the making.

 

[juza76]

Not good, you just can't teach accuracy. What I see here is another Derek (Scud) Anderson in the making.

but anderson is a qb, a mediocre one ,but he can play at least being back up
logan thomas wants to play a role it doesnt belong to him

 

[cardpa]

but anderson is a qb, a mediocre one ,but he can play at least being back up
logan thomas wants to play a role it doesnt belong to him

Don't disagree at all. the Denver game was a perfect example of what Thomas brings to the table. One completion that goes for a long TD because he threw a bad pass that ended up with great results. Of course his other 7 passes were disastrous. You may be right however comparing him to Anderson may be an insult to Anderson and that is not saying much.

 

[Buckybird]

Like I said from the beginning...the kid bloooooooows. What a waste of a pick!!!

 

[Buckybird]

Dare I say it...... Matt Leinart

Leenart has way more talent as a passer & that says a lot.