Lonzo Ball

[BC867]

Also if the Suns drafted Lonzo I think it will be one big headache until he is traded to the Lakers. The Suns should look at trades with the Lakers if both teams are in the top 3.

I see this as the overriding factor in a Suns' decision. Knowing all that we know, if we draft him to keep him, we'll end up losing. Both on the court and in the public eye.

It is time for the Suns to act like a winner rather than a gimmick. SSOL. Three lead Point Guards. Hey, guys, let's plan to grow for a change.

 

[Errntknght]

If we draft 2nd and Lakers 3rd, we should trade with them, getting their next available 1st rounder in the deal. Maybe they'd even part with Zubac to get him. I'm not sure that the Lakers really want Ball but if they do, I'm fine with letting them have him at a price - they'll be in a bit of mess with D'A Russell and Lonzo contending to be the man. Then we draft Fox or Josh Jackson. I'd say throw Len into the deal but if anything would turn Len around it would being traded to the Lakers

 

[Mainstreet]

I see this as the overriding factor in a Suns' decision. Knowing all that we know, if we draft him to keep him, we'll end up losing. Both on the court and in the public eye.

It is time for the Suns to act like a winner rather than a gimmick. SSOL. Three lead Point Guards. Hey, guys, let's plan to grow for a change.

I think if the Suns draft a PG, Bledsoe is all but gone.

 

[Mainstreet]

If we draft 2nd and Lakers 3rd, we should trade with them, getting their next available 1st rounder in the deal. Maybe they'd even part with Zubac to get him. I'm not sure that the Lakers really want Ball but if they do, I'm fine with letting them have him at a price - they'll be in a bit of mess with D'A Russell and Lonzo contending to be the man. Then we draft Fox or Josh Jackson. I'd say throw Len into the deal but if anything would turn Len around it would being traded to the Lakers

In the trade scenario above, the Suns would be drafting for the Lakers so hopefully we would know who they are drafting ahead of time.

I'd really like to get Zubac in trade for swapping picks in the top three with the Lakers if Fultz is already drafted. I could be happy with Fox or Jackson.

 

[TJ]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gelo never attends because Lavar gets pissed at UCLA when Melo doesn't get the playing time he thinks he deserves. I'm not sure if Melo's game transfers very well to the college level (and beyond).

I think you have the kids backwards. LiAngelo is coming to UCLA next season and LaMelo in 2019.

LiAngelo should be a 4-year starter at a mid major, not a one-and-done at UCLA. The latter, unfortunately, is LaVar's expectation. It would not surprise me to see LaVar throw a temper tantrum and add pressure to Steve Alford's job.

 

[Bert]

You know what sucks? I know almost nothing about this kid except that his dad is a total idiot and that is making me not want the Suns to draft him, which I know is illogical... But Really, I didn't see him play at all, and I haven't read much about him except snippets here and there on ASFN and anytime I've seen them talking about him on TNT or ESPN, they're talking about his dad. So the point I'm making is; how unfortunate for this kid that he has all this talent yet for NBA fans who dont closely follow college hoops know him simply as the kid with the CRAZY DAD BAGGAGE.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

You know what sucks? I know almost nothing about this kid except that his dad is a total idiot and that is making me not want the Suns to draft him, which I know is illogical... But Really, I didn't see him play at all, and I haven't read much about him except snippets here and there on ASFN and anytime I've seen them talking about him on TNT or ESPN, they're talking about his dad. So the point I'm making is; how unfortunate for this kid that he has all this talent yet for NBA fans who dont closely follow college hoops know him simply as the kid with the CRAZY DAD BAGGAGE.

Imagine if Stephen A and Lavar Ball had their own talk show...that would be epic.

 

[JerkFace]

I think you have the kids backwards. LiAngelo is coming to UCLA next season and LaMelo in 2019.

LiAngelo should be a 4-year starter at a mid major, not a one-and-done at UCLA. The latter, unfortunately, is LaVar's expectation. It would not surprise me to see LaVar throw a temper tantrum and add pressure to Steve Alford's job.

The Ball's are basketball's version of the Kardasians and I can barely keep them all straight.

 

[GatorAZ]

I think you have the kids backwards. LiAngelo is coming to UCLA next season and LaMelo in 2019.

LiAngelo should be a 4-year starter at a mid major, not a one-and-done at UCLA. The latter, unfortunately, is LaVar's expectation. It would not surprise me to see LaVar throw a temper tantrum and add pressure to Steve Alford's job.

If Gelo has to play significant minutes this year...

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[3rdside]

You know what sucks? I know almost nothing about this kid except that his dad is a total idiot and that is making me not want the Suns to draft him, which I know is illogical... But Really, I didn't see him play at all, and I haven't read much about him except snippets here and there on ASFN and anytime I've seen them talking about him on TNT or ESPN, they're talking about his dad. So the point I'm making is; how unfortunate for this kid that he has all this talent yet for NBA fans who dont closely follow college hoops know him simply as the kid with the CRAZY DAD BAGGAGE.

Seriously, I think the dad thinks he's the star of the show in all this and for the first time I'm a little nervous about his presence.

I can't really criticise his direct approach on BBB and the big shoe companies even though I think it's fair to say the brand name sucks and the pricing is ridiculous and not sustainable but yeah, it looks like he might actually be a negative influence on Lonzo and the team who drafts him.

Some serious questions need to be asked of Lavar if that's us, and maybe hold him to it in writing or something..

 

[Russ Smith]

I wouldn't be surprised if Gelo (edit: Melo) never attends because Lavar gets pissed at UCLA when Melo (edit: Gelo) doesn't get the playing time he thinks he deserves. I'm not sure if Melo's (edit:Gelo) game transfers very well to the college level (and beyond).

Yeah I don't think Gelo is very good either. I can see Alford and UCLA using the out though that we think you're using all 3 sons too much in the promotion of your brand, 2 of them are supposed to be amateurs, we're concerned you broke the rules doing this so we're pulling the scholarship.

 

[Russ Smith]

You know what sucks? I know almost nothing about this kid except that his dad is a total idiot and that is making me not want the Suns to draft him, which I know is illogical... But Really, I didn't see him play at all, and I haven't read much about him except snippets here and there on ASFN and anytime I've seen them talking about him on TNT or ESPN, they're talking about his dad. So the point I'm making is; how unfortunate for this kid that he has all this talent yet for NBA fans who dont closely follow college hoops know him simply as the kid with the CRAZY DAD BAGGAGE.

Yeah it's unfair to Lonzo he's a great kid, you don't hear any stories from his time at UCLA that suggest otherwise. Everyone knew the dad was outspoken but in the last few months it's just gotten silly.

He's essentially taking his entire paycheck and buying lottery tickets with it, he might hit the lottery, he might lose the paycheck. But what makes it worse is it's not his paycheck, it's Lonzo's.

 

[Russ Smith]

A "Nice Kicks" article apparently estimated that BBB actually sold 263 pairs of shoes in the first 24 hours, which is just over 158K. Who knows the profit but obviously far less than the 5000 estimate which again was because they were using the order # and didn't realize it included tshirts and hats too.

 

[Azlen]

A "Nice Kicks" article apparently estimated that BBB actually sold 263 pairs of shoes in the first 24 hours, which is just over 158K. Who knows the profit but obviously far less than the 5000 estimate which again was because they were using the order # and didn't realize it included tshirts and hats too.

The crazy thing is that the delivery date on the shoes isn't until November. That means that he needs the upfront money to even make them. There's no guarantee that the shoes that you get will even look like the prototype. You have to wonder if he even knows who is going to make them yet.

 

[Bert]

Seriously, I think the dad thinks he's the star of the show in all this and for the first time I'm a little nervous about his presence.

I can't really criticise his direct approach on BBB and the big shoe companies even though I think it's fair to say the brand name sucks and the pricing is ridiculous and not sustainable but yeah, it looks like he might actually be a negative influence on Lonzo and the team who drafts him.

Some serious questions need to be asked of Lavar if that's us, and maybe hold him to it in writing or something..

That's a great idea, because you know this idiot will be a distraction. (The Dad not the kid) The organization has to check with the kid.... "Uhh we're going to bring you off the bench for a few games, can you please ask your dad to not have a twitter meltdown?"

I think you're idea is solid. Make him sign a gag order. Or a literal gag! lol

Anyways, I'm not going to be biased against the kid because of his dad, I hope it all works out for him because this is really unfortunate in what should be the most exciting time in his life!

Like I keep saying; The Suns will pick 4th or 5th, so it doesn't matter. #Rigged

 

[Mainstreet]

Like I keep saying; The Suns will pick 4th or 5th, so it doesn't matter. #Rigged

Shh. Don't even think it Bert.

I'm sort of wondering if Magic already has trades lined up to get them a top three pick even if they land outside the top three in the lottery.

 

[sunsfan88]

Lavarr Ball reminds me a lot of Donald Trump.

Say dumb stuff, get famous and get free publicity and then win at the end.

Trump got elected and now maybe Lonzo goes #1?

 

[BC867]

I think if the Suns draft a PG, Bledsoe is all but gone.

I agree. In comparing the Ball family to SSOL and 3 lead Point Guards, I was referring to the 'gimmick' aspect of it.

As someone posted, the Ball goings on are the Kardashian's of basketball. And I hope the Suns don't lower themselves to that level in the draft.

 

[Russ Smith]

I agree. In comparing the Ball family to SSOL and 3 lead Point Guards, I was referring to the 'gimmick' aspect of it.

As someone posted, the Ball goings on are the Kardashian's of basketball. And I hope the Suns don't lower themselves to that level in the draft.

I actually hate that comparison. The Kardashians have ZERO talent beyond self promotion. OK Kim is pretty and has a big ass but beyond that they have no talent.

Clearly Lavar is a promoter but Lonzo actually can play basketball, he isn't projected top 3 in the NBA draft because his dad hyped him to that level he's projected there because he played well enough to earn that projection.

Lavar did in fact try to get a reality show and I'm sure if Lonzo plays well enough he will try again in the future and probably succeed but essentially the Kardashians fame came from Kim making a sex tape and the name being known from the OJ trial, they didn't actually accomplish anything to get famous. At least Lonzo is actually good at what he does.

Where I think the comparison is valid is Lavar Ball and the Kardashian mom using their kids to get famous and earn money.

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree. In comparing the Ball family to SSOL and 3 lead Point Guards, I was referring to the 'gimmick' aspect of it.

As someone posted, the Ball goings on are the Kardashian's of basketball. And I hope the Suns don't lower themselves to that level in the draft.

As Russ Smith already pointed out, it's not a good comparison.

I don't think the way Lonzo plays is gimmicky but if the Suns should draft and keep Lonzo there could be a parade.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I half believe that all of this is part of Lavar's plan to get Lonzo to the Lakers. Convince the Suns and Boston to pass on him.

I bet he tones it down after the lottery if the Lakers fall out of the draft.

 

[Mainstreet]

I half believe that all of this is part of Lavar's plan to get Lonzo to the Lakers. Convince the Suns and Boston to pass on him.

I bet he tones it down after the lottery if the Lakers fall out of the draft.

I think you could well be right.

As I suggested earlier, the Lakers may have talked deals with other lottery team(s) likely to land in the top 3 as insurance. Boston among others might be receptive, especially with IT.

Also Lonzo can help create his destiny by refusing to work out for certain teams.

I'm sure the father can help as well. LOL

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You guys are crediting an idiot with too much strategic intelligence.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

You guys are crediting an idiot with too much strategic intelligence.

Yep. The dad is just an ultimate tool bag, and the fact that ESPN and all these other media outlets are giving him the podium to be an idiot on...he's relishing in the moment. He's just lucky we live in a world where idiots get far too much attention than they deserve.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He wasn't this bad until after the season ended. Most had no idea who he was. I don't believe he is dumb.