Lost: Season 3 (Spoilers)

[Covert Rain]

Don't know if anybody mentioned this. However, there are obviously secrets that the Dharma Initiative didn't want the Others to know. They set up the facility to explode for a reason. They were trying to hide something from the Others. What exactly was that? It has to be a pretty big secret or why the extreme? Did the Others find that secret?

So many more questions now. If the DI came after the Others did they know they were there before running experiments? Why did the Others see the DI as a threat and attack them?



Other things I loved. Locke was really obsessing about the computers and could have killed everyone. Also Sayid is the man. I love how that guy can do things like spot liars and look at the smallest clue and see things others don't. Also what about Hugo and his Ping Pong abilitiy.

I think the show is back on track.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I think the show is back on track.

Yep, ever since they got back to shows with Hugo in it things have picked back up. Hugo, Locke, and Sayid are my favorite characters.

 

[MadCardDisease]

That would be the boat, couldn't think of the name. But yes that's my guess they are descendents of the black rock.

That would explain why the others were hostile to the Losties and why they keep saying this is our island, because they've been fighting the "hostiles" for years.

Uh if the "Others" were decendants of the Black rock, how did they convince that blonde doctor to come to their Island? Remember that Ethan (one of the Others) has been to the mainland. Personally I think the Black Rock was thrown in to confuse people and has nothing to do with the others.

 

[Covert Rain]

Uh if the "Others" were decendants of the Black rock, how did they convince that blonde doctor to come to their Island? Remember that Ethan (one of the Others) has been to the mainland. Personally I think the Black Rock was thrown in to confuse people and has nothing to do with the others.

First off clearly they tricked her. I think its feasible. However, the more interesting question is why are they there to begin with.

 

[Russ Smith]

So did Sayid really torture that woman or did he simply realize his only way to get out was to lie and say he did?

I thought he lied and that was connected to him knowing the Russian guy was lying to try and get away, but now I'm not so sure.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

oh i disagree. i lived in seoul, korea for a year and didn't leave there knowing very much korean at all. 1. i don't think they told us how long he had actually been there, 2. i'm not sure if "length or time" there would even be relevant because that doesn't mean that he would pick up the language, especially if he was not interested in learning it to begin with.

i do not remember, but does he ever mention in season 1 if he spent any length of time in Paris?

shawn

I agree, I took two years of spanish, but if i had to listen to something an interpret...I'd have no clue.

And it's only been about 14 years since my last class. We have no idea how long Sayid has been gone from France, or how much he learned while there.

 

[kps0001]

Would you like to play a game?

sorry it is one of my favorite movies... its "Shall we play a game?"


What about the cat? Is it the same cat? Whats the cat supposed to symbolize?

 

[MadCardDisease]

So did Sayid really torture that woman or did he simply realize his only way to get out was to lie and say he did?

I thought he lied and that was connected to him knowing the Russian guy was lying to try and get away, but now I'm not so sure.

I think he really did torture her. There is no way I would forget a face if someone did that to me. He looked really torn up about it when he finally admitted to it. You could tell it did haunt him.

 

[MadCardDisease]

First off clearly they tricked her. I think its feasible. However, the more interesting question is why are they there to begin with.

I know that they tricked her. However they had to be on the mainland to do it.

 

[Covert Rain]

I know that they tricked her. However they had to be on the mainland to do it.

Correct. Do you remember the episode where they killed her boss(ex)? They convinved her she would be doing important work on an isolated island. So whatever B.S. they fed her she believed and went willing over to the island.

 

[Dback Jon]

Just for the guys

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[Louis]

What about the cat? Is it the same cat? Whats the cat supposed to symbolize?

So does the cat indicate that Agents are nearby? Is the Island a Matrix? Are those their real bodies?

 

[Covert Rain]

So does the cat indicate that Agents are nearby? Is the Island a Matrix? Are those their real bodies?

Sorry I have not been able to get past the post before yours. I can't stop drooling long enough to concentrate.

 

[kps0001]

Sorry I have not been able to get past the post before yours. I can't stop drooling long enough to concentrate.

LOL..so true.

I have heard some say they think the cat is the smoke/monster thing. Same with the horse Kate saw...etc.

 

[Louis]

LOL..so true.

I have heard some say they think the cat is the smoke/monster thing. Same with the horse Kate saw...etc.

Considering there are cows on the island, I figured the horse thing could've been resolved by linking the two together.

*EDIT*

The cows were corralled next to the building that exploded. Are they dead now? Why wouldn't they save them for some good eating back at the beach?

 

[jenna2891]

The cows were corralled next to the building that exploded. Are they dead now? Why wouldn't they save them for some good eating back at the beach?

they didn't know the house was going to explode, so they couldn't save the cows. plus, nothing says "find me, others!" like a heifer with a bell around its neck.

 

[Evil Ash]

So did Sayid really torture that woman or did he simply realize his only way to get out was to lie and say he did?

I thought he lied and that was connected to him knowing the Russian guy was lying to try and get away, but now I'm not so sure.

He tortured her. He knew that if he admitted to doing it around her husband, that he'd kill Sayid.

So he tried to lie his way out of it.

 

[D-Dogg]

Great episode this time...

 

[D-Dogg]

We have a winner!

Even he had become fluent, you would have thought he would have learned some of the language by living there - since that is how Shannon learned French.

Of course he wouldn't, he was too busy speaking english with an arabic accent.

 

[FischerKing]

Of course he wouldn't, he was too busy speaking english with an arabic accent.

ha

shawn

 

[Pariah]

I haven't watched the last three episodes yet, nor have I read the thread for a while, so if this has been discussed or some how debunked, I apologize.

Anyway, last night I was watching Peter Pan with my kids. There's a scene I'd forgotten about: when the Indians sneak up on the lost boys and hog tie them--the two english kids are tied together by their necks and marched to the indian camp...the last indian in this procession is dragging the teddybear by a rope tied around its neck, too.

It was EXACTLY the same look and tone of the scene when Jin and Michael were hiding in the bush and saw the "others" walk by them last season.

If it was intentional (and it was so similar I don't think it was a coincidence), then that's at least two children's literary references of "make-believe lands": Henry Gale (Wizard of Oz; Oz) and Peter Pan (Neverland).

Combine that with the Others' interest in children, and maybe we're on to something. What? I dunno.

 

[D-Dogg]

I haven't watched the last three episodes yet, nor have I read the thread for a while, so if this has been discussed or some how debunked, I apologize.

Anyway, last night I was watching Peter Pan with my kids. There's a scene I'd forgotten about: when the Indians sneak up on the lost boys and hog tie them--the two english kids are tied together by their necks and marched to the indian camp...the last indian in this procession is dragging the teddybear by a rope tied around its neck, too.

It was EXACTLY the same look and tone of the scene when Jin and Michael were hiding in the bush and saw the "others" walk by them last season.

If it was intentional (and it was so similar I don't think it was a coincidence), then that's at least two children's literary references of "make-believe lands": Henry Gale (Wizard of Oz; Oz) and Peter Pan (Neverland).

Combine that with the Others' interest in children, and maybe we're on to something. What? I dunno.

Nice catch! Interesting....

 

[FischerKing]

I haven't watched the last three episodes yet, nor have I read the thread for a while, so if this has been discussed or some how debunked, I apologize.

Anyway, last night I was watching Peter Pan with my kids. There's a scene I'd forgotten about: when the Indians sneak up on the lost boys and hog tie them--the two english kids are tied together by their necks and marched to the indian camp...the last indian in this procession is dragging the teddybear by a rope tied around its neck, too.

It was EXACTLY the same look and tone of the scene when Jin and Michael were hiding in the bush and saw the "others" walk by them last season.

If it was intentional (and it was so similar I don't think it was a coincidence), then that's at least two children's literary references of "make-believe lands": Henry Gale (Wizard of Oz; Oz) and Peter Pan (Neverland).

Combine that with the Others' interest in children, and maybe we're on to something. What? I dunno.

good eye.

there was another Wizard of Oz reference in the Desmond flashback a few weeks ago as well - so they made multiple references to that story. We just bought Peter Pan but haven't watched it in years so I'll have to check it out.

Shawn

 

[Jersey Girl]

Just for the guys

Got anything for the chicks, Jon?

 

[Pariah]

Okay, I'm caught up. I think I'm going to try to watch Lost only every three weeks. It was nice to watch them back to back like that.

1. I think the cat was just a reminder for Sayid to remain "compassionate" and not do what "we are all capable of." To show the same mercy as the woman showed to her cat and to him.

2. There's no way I could do a full translation, but the first Russian word that was underlined in red on the typewriter was "Andrea" (spelled phonetically in the Cyrillic alphabet).