Lost: Season 3 (Spoilers)

[Chaplin]

Am I the only one that thought to themselves that when we saw the grenade, why Charlie did not run through the door and at least try to swim out of there.


I do not think the funeral was for Sawyer, I think he and Kate are still together since Kate said, "I better get back or he will start to wonder". I think the funeral was for Ben. I say this because when the when the guy ask Jack if he was family or friend, he said neither. I also think it is Ben because when Jack saw it and got all upset about it because Ben tried to warn him and keep him on the island.

Disagree, the neighborhood Jack stopped in seemed to be like South Central or something, so I think Walt or Michael are more likely.

This does pose some strange questions after that major "HOLY CRAP" moment about the flashback not really being a flashback but a flash forward. Is this THE future, or can it be changed?

Now THIS is how to end a season. Holy crap.

 

[Joe Mama]

Am I the only one that thought to themselves that when we saw the grenade, why Charlie did not run through the door and at least try to swim out of there.


I do not think the funeral was for Sawyer, I think he and Kate are still together since Kate said, "I better get back or he will start to wonder". I think the funeral was for Ben. I say this because when the when the guy ask Jack if he was family or friend, he said neither. I also think it is Ben because when Jack saw it and got all upset about it because Ben tried to warn him and keep him on the island.

I think you nailed it. I was just talking to my friend who made the exact same two points. That's funny. I definitely think the funeral was for Ben.

Joe

 

[PDXChris]

Disagree, the neighborhood Jack stopped in seemed to be like South Central or something, so I think Walt or Michael are more likely.

I thought that as well, but Michael was from New York.

 

[Cheesebeef]

just... HOLY CRAP. just... I've NEVER seen a show just be great in a leadup and then totally turn itself on its head like that.

HOLY CRAP.

 

[PDXChris]

just... HOLY CRAP. just... I've NEVER seen a show just be great in a leadup and then totally turn itself on its head like that.

HOLY CRAP.

Take a walk outside and get some fresh air because you start to hyper ventilate.

 

[Chaplin]

I thought that as well, but Michael was from New York.

Good point, but would Ben have a funeral in Compton? And why would he leave the island? Seems to me he's a kind of guy that would rather die then be forced to leave the island.

 

[Chaplin]

This kind of finale is what Heroes SHOULD have been.

 

[D-Dogg]

Still not even ready to TRY and digest this episode, or the ramifications of it, quite yet. Still just a little bit in awe.

 

[Chaplin]

Still not even ready to TRY and digest this episode, or the ramifications of it, quite yet. Still just a little bit in awe.

Good thing we can watch the show again online.

 

[PDXChris]

Good point, but would Ben have a funeral in Compton? And why would he leave the island? Seems to me he's a kind of guy that would rather die then be forced to leave the island.

He had no family and could have been sent to prison or something like that and died while in prison of what he did. I think he was most likely to die because of the cancer. Unless it was Rose and she dies from her cancer, but her hubby would have been there and he would have said she was a friend.

 

[Chaplin]

He had no family and could have been sent to prison or something like that and died while in prison of what he did. I think he was most likely to die because of the cancer. Unless it was Rose and she dies from her cancer, but her hubby would have been there and he would have said she was a friend.

Good points again, but I'll just say that it being Ben is just too obvious, and with Jack crying while he reads the obituary, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[PDXChris]

Fun fact time from http://lost.cubit.net/index.php


"While watching the show, it became more and more difficult to place the flashbacks. The reason why was revealed at the end, they were actually flash forwards. We did get a hint before the end, when Jack went to visit HOFFS / DRAWLAR funeral home. An odd looking name often means anagram. And in this case, the anagram is FLASH FORWARD."

 

[PDXChris]

Good points again, but I'll just say that it being Ben is just too obvious, and with Jack crying while he reads the obituary, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Good point, but the crying could have just been because it reminded him of the island. Locke is another possibility since he is most likely back in a wheel chair.

 

[Chaplin]

Fun fact time from http://lost.cubit.net/index.php


"While watching the show, it became more and more difficult to place the flashbacks. The reason why was revealed at the end, they were actually flash forwards. We did get a hint before the end, when Jack went to visit HOFFS / DRAWLAR funeral home. An odd looking name often means anagram. And in this case, the anagram is FLASH FORWARD."

Now THAT is cool.

 

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[Chaplin]

Good point, but the crying could have just been because it reminded him of the island. Locke is another possibility since he is most likely back in a wheel chair.

Another interesting thing is that these flash forwards would almost signify the series end, if they come true.

Unless sometime next season or the one after, the group DOES get rescued, then have to go back to the island. That would be strange, but certainly something we NEVER would have expected. (In other words, by the end of the series, these flash forwards would be flashbacks)

 

[PDXChris]

Another one from http://lost.cubit.net/viewEgg.php?id=294

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In 3x22, the season finale, "Through the Looking Glass", we find a very broken and strung out Jack. When he learns of someone's death, he nearly kills himself. He attends the visitation, and learns that no one else came. But, who died?! All we have is a blurry obit image. Who's death could have shaken Jack so profoundly? Some speculate the name on the obit is Jeremy Bentham.

Here's a partial transcript of the obit:
Man found -------
downtown loft

The body of J --- entham of
New York was --- shortly after 4
a.m. in the ---- of Grand
Avenue

------------------- at The
---------------------- loud
---------------------- man's loft.
-------------------- safety, he
----------------------- the
-------------------- the
-------------- a beam in the

 

[Evil Ash]

You expect anything less after THAT episode?!

 

[PDXChris]

Jacob died. That is my new prediction!!!!!!!

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Okay, I am busting with all kinds of theories and I'll try to organize them but I feel like I'm really on to something here.

First off. Heroes is a joke. This is the best show I've ever seen.

Now, my first point:

1. Where does Lost pickup next year? In the present day (Jack and Kate off the Island) or back on the Island 3 years ago (which is when they are there really). Or does it pickup at this future time like in the final season and finish from there?

Battlestar Galactica last season ended by jumping 1.5 years into the future and then picked up.

Lost could start IN the future, where Jack and Kate left it at the Airport, and the flashbacks next season will be TO WHAT HAPPENED to everyone after that phone call.

Fraking Brilliant!

Now, my theories on what is going on and stuffs:

Obviously this season has been a lot about time. Lost Time, etc.

The biggest clue out there: Locke says "You weren't supposed to do this Jack."

Somewhere along the timeline after the plane crashed, something changed. Who knows why? Someone ELSE was either supposed to make that phone call, or stop that call from being made. Locke tried to stop it, but I guess he just couldn't kill Jack and had to let it happen. So Jack made a phone call that he was NEVER supposed to make.

Which sets in motion events that never should have happened.

Then in the future, even Jack says "We weren't supposed to leave."

Something horrible happened.

There is a lot of stuff about time travel and things that weren't supposed to happen.

Libby being on the plane is another thing. I think she was on that plane for a reason, because she knew it would crash. Someone sent her maybe? Maybe she was supposed to do something? Maybe something she already did that I forgot, was important.

And I strongly believe that Locke is Jacob and the entire time Ben has been listening to Jacob, it's really Locke from the future. Perhaps...OMG, perhaps Jacob himself told Ben to go get Locke's dad so he could kill him, and change the course of time and become who he needed to be to save the people there. Jacob is using Ben to help mold Locke into something he should have been. That's why there was so much made out of Locke needing to kill his dad.

Something happened though...something messed with the plans that were in motion. Jacob blocks all communications off the Island so that ship could never arrive or be called...but Desmond perhaps...is the difference? He ended that blocking, which screws everything up.

Okay, a few other random tidbits:

Of course Charlie locked the door, because if he hadn't, the whole place would have flooded and Desmond would have died. He saved his life.

Secondly, I think the two skeletons in the cave...from the very beginning...will be two people who we already know, who crashed on that plane.

It's just starting to all fit together for me...my head is spinning...I think i see where this is going.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Another interesting thing is that these flash forwards would almost signify the series end, if they come true.

Unless sometime next season or the one after, the group DOES get rescued, then have to go back to the island. That would be strange, but certainly something we NEVER would have expected. (In other words, by the end of the series, these flash forwards would be flashbacks)

I really think they pickup after that airport scene.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Good point, but the crying could have just been because it reminded him of the island. Locke is another possibility since he is most likely back in a wheel chair.

I think the crying is because Ben does turn out to be the good guys, and what happened that was so horrible was because he didn't trust Ben.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Another interesting thing is that these flash forwards would almost signify the series end, if they come true.

Unless sometime next season or the one after, the group DOES get rescued, then have to go back to the island. That would be strange, but certainly something we NEVER would have expected. (In other words, by the end of the series, these flash forwards would be flashbacks)

My other theory is that next season is about how they get off, what happens, then they catch up to that flash forward scene we just saw, and the final season is about going back and finishing it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

could the funeral be for Juliet for some reason?

and were Jack's flashbacks really flash-forwards? They've talked about alternate realities before right? They've talked about Flight 815 having been found and there were no survivors. Taking both of those into account, could they not be rescued and actually come back to reality BEFORE they got on the plane somehow? But coming back before, Jack is able to save his father (thus the line in the hospital), Angeline Lilly and Sawyer are able to go back and undo their deeds, but Juliet gets back and finds her sister dying and unable to help her now? Etc, etc. And does Jack and only a couple others actually make it off the island which is why he needs to go back?

 

[Chaplin]

I think the crying is because Ben does turn out to be the good guys, and what happened that was so horrible was because he didn't trust Ben.

I just can't buy the theory that Ben is a "good guy", not after all the crap he's done. Now, RICHARD, maybe I could believe he is a good guy at heart, but not Ben, who had Sayid, Jin and Bernard shot without any ounce of remorse (or so he thought). There's another question that might have been answered--why didn't Ryan shoot the 3 of them after Tom told them? I know Tom was upset that they DIDN'T shoot them, but I don't remember why. Does anyone remember if they said why? Right before Hurley pulverized him with the van?