Lost: Season 3 (Spoilers)

[Chaplin]

Does anybody remember Juliette's last name? Because whoever died, their first name started with a "J" from the article.

 

[Evil Ash]

I think the crying is because Ben does turn out to be the good guys, and what happened that was so horrible was because he didn't trust Ben.

The person who dies has a first name that begins with "J" and a last name that ends with something along the lines of "antham."

So I don't think it was Ben

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I just can't buy the theory that Ben is a "good guy", not after all the crap he's done. Now, RICHARD, maybe I could believe he is a good guy at heart, but not Ben, who had Sayid, Jin and Bernard shot without any ounce of remorse (or so he thought). There's another question that might have been answered--why didn't Ryan shoot the 3 of them after Tom told them? I know Tom was upset that they DIDN'T shoot them, but I don't remember why. Does anyone remember if they said why? Right before Hurley pulverized him with the van?

I think Ben is trying to protect everyone and had to do what he did for the better good.

You have no idea what happens next. Perhaps the sacrifice of those three, to get that phone away from Jack, prevents a horrible situation...one in which they were better off losing those 3.

And maybe Ben didn't want them dead, but only think they are dead. Maybe Tom didn't know?

 

[PDXChris]

could the funeral be for Juliet for some reason?

That would be a interesting twist, but she is from Miami if I remember correctly.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

The person who dies has a first name that begins with "J" and a last name that ends with something along the lines of "antham."

So I don't think it was Ben

It said "Man found."

 

[Chaplin]

That would be a interesting twist, but she is from Miami if I remember correctly.

According to IMDB, Juliet's last name is Burke.

 

[PDXChris]

It said "Man found."

It could future Locke, who is then Jacob.

 

[Chaplin]

I think Ben is trying to protect everyone and had to do what he did for the better good.

You have no idea what happens next. Perhaps the sacrifice of those three, to get that phone away from Jack, prevents a horrible situation...one in which they were better off losing those 3.

And maybe Ben didn't want them dead, but only think they are dead. Maybe Tom didn't know?

That is correct, however the same can apply to you as well. So we're both grasping at straws. Shooting them would effectively end his leverage--or at least making Jack THINK he shot them would end his leverage. So why shoot them (or pretend to) if he can continue to use them to try to coerce Jack from making the call? Killing them serves no purpose except to incense Jack and give him MORE motivation to make the call.

Tom has been Ben's right hand man from the start. I see no reason why Ben would confide in Ryan and not Tom. That makes no sense.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

It could future Locke, who is then Jacob.

Which could explain the bad things...maybe Locke is dead and never becomes Jacob and everything is screwed up.

I dunno, it's getting weirder now...I'm thinking too much.

But I really think Jack is one of those skeletons...

 

[Evil Ash]

According to IMDB, Juliet's last name is Burke.

What was Sawyer's last name? I know his first name was James, which fits the clues from the story. However he's not from New York.


I wouldn't be surprised if the person who died was rather insignificant and they did some of it just to mess with us.

 

[Chaplin]

What was Sawyer's last name? I know his first name was James, which fits the clues from the story. However he's not from New York.


I wouldn't be surprised if the person who died was rather insignificant and they did some of it just to mess with us.

Ford.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

The big question is...was Jack's remark about his father being alive a TRUE statement, or was a drug-induced delusion?

I guess if the prescription was written under his father's letterhead...then maybe he is alive.

I was choosing to think it was Jack on drugs making some comment.

But damn, if he's alive...that just changes everything.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That would be a interesting twist, but she is from Miami if I remember correctly.

yes, but she is seemingly falling for Jack and if they did get rescued and she went back in time with him to find her sister dead, she could have lived with Jack in LA and ended up resenting him and so he would lose ANOTHER person in his life and it would all be because he took her off the island.

this is just WILD speculation, but I'm guessing the person in that box was Juliet. Think about it, we have Jack telling Kate he loves her, Kate seeing Jack and Juliet kissing and Jack saying "why weren't you there" to Kate to which Kate answered "Why the hell would I go to that?"

it's Juliet and Jack basically screws up EVERYONE'S life by getting off the island - the last season is all about getting back there and rectifying his decision.

and no wya in hell do they pick up at the airport. We're gonna see the show pick up right where it left off, with a likely assault on the island and most likely, the losties and the rest of the others banding together to fight against whatevers out there. Then, like this season, eventually, Jack makes a deal for certain people to get off the island by the end of the season 4 or 5. And then season 6 is all about getting back and saving everyone or just staying there.

that's my call.

 

[PDXChris]

Which could explain the bad things...maybe Locke is dead and never becomes Jacob and everything is screwed up.

I dunno, it's getting weirder now...I'm thinking too much.

But I really think Jack is one of those skeletons...

Maybe is was Jack himself. That is why he has the beard and glasses to hide himself when he is in there. They could have traveled back in time and now there are 2 of everyone and Jack caused his own death?

OK, I am getting tired and reaching a bit.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

What was Sawyer's last name? I know his first name was James, which fits the clues from the story. However he's not from New York.


I wouldn't be surprised if the person who died was rather insignificant and they did some of it just to mess with us.

If so, he becomes significant.

Maybe it's Ben under some new name...who knows.

Damn I love this show and I'm getting close to being done thinking about it tonight...

The whole dad thing really is messed up.

But an interesting thing. Why doesn't Mikhail (spelling?) die?

Shot through the heart, but he swims away.

Shocked by the fence, but lives.

Is he immortal? How did he get to be? Is Richard immortal? What is the temple? Is it part of the ancient history of the Island, which includes that freaking foot on the beach?

 

[Evil Ash]

Ford.

Well there's another name to cross of the list

 

[Chaplin]

Interesting tidbits from the finale:

Themes:
* Charlie's fate: Charlie sacrifices himself so that everyone else could be saved. (Sacrifice), (Salvation)
* Car wreck: Jack saves a woman and her kid after he is the cause of their car wreck. He is then called a 'hero' by several people. (Car accidents) (Good and bad people)
* Sarah: Sarah Shephard is shown to be pregnant. (Pregnancies)
* Obituary: The obituary states that the person in question died at 4 AM. (The Numbers)
* Patchy: We see Mikhail Bakunin without his eyepatch. (Eyes)
* Juliet: Juliet uses white coral to mark the tents (Black and white)
* Keypad: The keys on the signal-jammer keypad are numbered 1-16 in a 4x4 pattern. (The Numbers)
* 8 stitches: Jack had 8 stitches in his forehead. (The Numbers)
* 15 deaths: 15 people died in this episode.(The Numbers)

Unanswered Questions:

* Are the flashes flash-forwards or real-time events? If the island events are indeed flashbacks, how does Jack know what exactly happened in scenes he was not present? Are Jack's flash-forwards a future that has already happened, or is it just one possible outcome of things to come?
* Is Jack's father still alive?
* Why would it be inappropriate for Sara to give Jack a ride home?
* Why did Jack want do to the operation on the woman who crashed?
* Why is flash-forward Jack so set on returning to the island?
* How did Jack and Kate get off the island? Which other Losties escaped? How long after the crash?
* Who is the "he" Kate mentions to Jack at the airport?
* Why has Kate insisted that Jack not contact her?
* What did Jack mean when he said he couldn't lie anymore?
* During what time period did the flash forward occur?
* How did Kate manage getting out of having to go to prison?
* Who was the woman Jack saved from the burning car?
* Who was the funeral for?
* Do the survivors resume their original lives?
* What did Jack say at the funeral home before taking the last pill?
* Why is Oceanic Air still in business? According to the Lost Experience they went out of business.

On the Island

* Who is Naomi really working for?
* Why was Penny reached?
* Was Mikhail hurt or killed by the grenade detonation?
* Where did Locke go after he left the main group of Losties at the end of the episode?
* Was Walt a projection of the Monster?
* Where is the temple and why must Richard take the others there, as planned? What will they do once they arrive?
* Will Desmond still see flashes of the future if Charlie is dead?
* What assignment in Canada were Bonnie and Greta supposed to be on?
* What are the "forces stronger than anything it has faced in many many years"?
* How did Locke kill Naomi if he wasn't capable of killing people?
* What will Danielle do if she refuses to leave the island saying there is no place out there for me now?
* Why does Tom disobey Ben? Why does Mikhail still listen to Ben?

 

[Cheesebeef]

i really think, in a weird way the flashforward was techinically a flashback to an alternate reality... if that makes any sense.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

i really think, in a weird way the flashforward was techinically a flashback to an alternate reality... if that makes any sense.

I agree...started off by Jack answering the phone when he shouldn't have.

That's why I think the show picks up from there, and they are trying to get things right somehow.

I dunno...I have no idea which way I want it. Picking up where they left off on the Island, or in the future.

 

[PDXChris]

I think the show will pick up from where it left off, but we will now see flash forwards until we get to that time. I am not sure show much more flash backs we can have at this point.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

By the way, I have to say the flash forward wasn't a shocker to me...I thought it was from the beginning, especially since I was expecting this big twist.

Still...I was caught off guard at the end, because at first I thought it was that he KNEW someone before they got to the Island, and then quickly realized it was after.

Great. Freaking. Show.

 

[Dback Jon]

wow just wow

 

[Mike Olbinski]

By the way, I seem to remember somewhere someone saying we'd find out what happened to Jack those days he was with the Others that we never saw.

Well, that was never seen tonight.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Another REALLY out there theory.

Is Jacob future Jack SOMEHOW?! Locke is there to help Jack from making a HUGE MISTAKE (Jacob: "help me!"/ Locke: (to Jack re: the phone: "you'e not supposed to do this") and Locke WON'T kill Jack even though he would kill ANYONE else who was in that position, why? Because killing present Jack would kill future Jacob?!

also, we have a reason why Ben might be keeping Jacob locked up - as punishment for past/present Jack - whatever the hell that means!)

THIS SHOW IS MIND-BOGGLING.

oh - and me thinks the people coming are Dharma peeps on the war path.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Another REALLY out there theory.

Is Jacob future Jack SOMEHOW?! Locke is there to help Jack from making a HUGE MISTAKE (Jacob: help me!) and Locke WON'T kill Jack even though he would kill ANYONE else who was in that position, why? Because killing present Jack would kill future Jacob?! THIS SHOW IS MIND-BOGGLING.