Lost - Season 4 (spoilers)

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It is good to know what happened to this guy:

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Quite a lame episode tonight as far as I'm concerned. Michael's character seriously adds no value to the show at this point. To bring him back after such a long absence seems like nothing but filler. He's been gone for so long, seriously no questions were answered. For the last show before a month long break, it was very disappointing.
 

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Quite a lame episode tonight as far as I'm concerned. Michael's character seriously adds no value to the show at this point. To bring him back after such a long absence seems like nothing but filler. He's been gone for so long, seriously no questions were answered. For the last show before a month long break, it was very disappointing.

Well, we did find out why Kate is not Tom's type. :) There's one mystery down.

And I think I have finally figured out the whole darn thing. I'm even going to spoilerize it so that I won't ruin it for everyone:

Ben is a Tralfamadorian.

Of course, I could be completely full of
crap

JTS
 

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Quite a lame episode tonight as far as I'm concerned. Michael's character seriously adds no value to the show at this point. To bring him back after such a long absence seems like nothing but filler. He's been gone for so long, seriously no questions were answered. For the last show before a month long break, it was very disappointing.

Have to disagree on this one. One the bigger mysteries on the island was what happened to Michael and Walt. It was satisfying to have that end tied up. Walt isn't dead. That's a huge revelation considering his "appearances" to crash survivors post-exodus.

Tom's appearance sort of solidifies all the theories about the Others' access to the real world -- and their probable wealth. They're not stuck on the island and they have real power beyond the island.

Tom's ominous reference to the island and its power beyond its own coastline sets the tone as not just imagery but something tangible -- and probably very evil. The Dante's Inferno Theory got a big boost. To me, it's more of a Homer-esque like descension into Hades. Now all we need is a reference to the river Styx.

Sayid turning Michael in to the captain appears to set the stage for the storyline of Sayid working for Ben.
 

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Quite a lame episode tonight as far as I'm concerned. Michael's character seriously adds no value to the show at this point. To bring him back after such a long absence seems like nothing but filler. He's been gone for so long, seriously no questions were answered. For the last show before a month long break, it was very disappointing.
:yeahthat:

It really was a waste of time for me. Of course, we did see Ben stoop to a newer low...
 

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Oh yeah, the preview for April 24th reveals without a doubt that Aaron is indeed one of the Oceanic 6.
 

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Good episode - did answer the questions about Michael and Walt.

And great follow-up on Tom :D


Sucks about Danielle, though - I really, really liked her.
 

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A few notes for the mid-season "cliffhanger" blues...

I'm guessing that Ben had Danielle and the boyfriend killed, they were set up.

Why was Tom's character gay? Is there a point to it, or is it just because?

Who's funeral was Jack at? One of the six? Who is Sayid's next target?

Kate gets Aaron off the island, Claire is left behind obviously. Does Claire die?

We know Desmond is not one of the six, but does he get off the island? Does he find Penny?
 

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Why was Tom's character gay? Is there a point to it, or is it just because?

This was more a shout-out to internet fans. There was a lot of speculation about Tom after he remarked to Kate that she wasn't his type. The writers/actor decided to run with it and have some fun.

I guess the question back would be, does it matter? If Tom had a woman in the apartment, would it be questioned as to the point of it?
 

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This was more a shout-out to internet fans. There was a lot of speculation about Tom after he remarked to Kate that she wasn't his type. The writers/actor decided to run with it and have some fun.

I guess the question back would be, does it matter? If Tom had a woman in the apartment, would it be questioned as to the point of it?

A friend of mine was thrown by Lost World, in which Goldblum's character had a daughter of distinct African American descent. My friend felt like if you didn't explain that it just made no sense. It really ruined the movie for him. I probably enjoyed that fact more than the movie. ;)

I like the idea of just messing with people's minds on stuff like that. It eats away at "normalcy."
 

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I wonder if there's more to it than that. I think the "not my type" line was a direct indication that they intended Tom's character to be gay from the start.

I see it as a repudiation to the speculation that the island, and the "lists" that the island generates are in any way related to a biblical "good" and "bad." If Tom is one of the self professed "good guys," then they're not religious nuts.
 

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From Lostpedia...

Tom's sexual orientation was originally hinted in "A Tale of Two Cities", when he told Kate that she wasn't his "type". Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse later suggested in the October 30, 2006 podcast that one of the characters on the show might indeed be gay. In issue #13 of the Official Magazine, Actor M.C. Gainey confirmed that he had deliberately played Tom as being homosexual ever since he picked up on internet discussions about his character's sexual orientation following the aforementioned line from "A Tale of Two Cities". However, Tom wasn't explicitly confirmed as being gay until a flashback scene in "Meet Kevin Johnson", after he had already died in the real-time narrative in "Through the Looking Glass". It was again confirmed by Lindelof and Cuse in the March, 21st 2008 edition of the Official Lost Podcast, following the premier of Meet Kevin Johnson.
 

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Jon, I don't think the actors know where their characters are ultimately headed. When you see some of the video podcasts they're pretty clear in that they're surprised where the show ends up sometimes, too.

I still maintain that Cuse and Lindelof intended him to be gay when they wrote that line. If anything, this seems to confirm it, right?
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse later suggested in the October 30, 2006 podcast that one of the characters on the show might indeed be gay.
 

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Jon, I don't think the actors know where their characters are ultimately headed. When you see some of the video podcasts they're pretty clear in that they're surprised where the show ends up sometimes, too.

I still maintain that Cuse and Lindelof intended him to be gay when they wrote that line. If anything, this seems to confirm it, right?

That part does...but the writers DO read the internet, and play up things speculated on... :D
 

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So here's my question. What was up with last week's episode? Did I miss something? Or did they just rerun that one episode with some pop-ups at the bottom to help us figure out what we already figured out.

I was bummed.
 

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So here's my question. What was up with last week's episode? Did I miss something? Or did they just rerun that one episode with some pop-ups at the bottom to help us figure out what we already figured out.

I was bummed.

Three more weeks of re-runs. I think.
 

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