Lot of buzz for Tebow coming to AZ

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I don't see Tebow as a full time QB. I think he COULD be an interesting player, but only in the right system. For example, he would thrive in MIA in the Wildcat set, IMO. I also see him used as an H-back type where a quick passing team like IND or NO would utilize him (maybe here, too?). He's a hybrid type player, but definitely not a full time QB....
 

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Arizona would be better off looking at Colt McCoy. McCoy's already played 4 years for a team just like the Cardinals.

But all Arizona needs is some QB to come in and be a backup in 2010. Someone like Chris Redman for instance. Older, lots of experience as a backup and has actually thrown more than five passes in 7 years.

Absolutely no reason to waste a draft pick on a QB this year.
 

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I wouldn't go that far. We're a QB short now. We might draft a late round QB to become the next backup.

But why when you can get one as a free agent and use that late round pick on another Steve Breaston or Tim Hightower or Reggie Wells or Ben Patrick?
 

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I we draft that clown I will be sick to my stomach...he is the next Danny Wurful.
 

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If we take a QB in the first round, whether it's Tebow or anyone else, it will be a direct and public vote of no-confidence in Matt Leinart by the team and next season could be disasterous.

I think we at least owe Matt (and Whiz) the benefit of the doubt. Draft a backup in the late rounds if you have to, but we need to focus on defense early.
 

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The only way I take Tebow is as a TE/WR in the late rounds if he is still there. He won't be, some front office is stupid or desperate enough to try and bank on him at QB.
 
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And thankfully, the OP won't be in the Cardinals war room come draft day.
 

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ESPN Blurb - not a chance in Hell he'll be our 1st round pick...

Tebow came to Mobile with a chance to prove he can be an effective NFL quarterback, but if he could go back in time he would likely choose not to come to the Senior Bowl. Tebow did show good arm strength, handled the media frenzy well and even played through a case of strep throat, but he also put all of his weaknesses on display in a setting that did nothing but magnify them. In a group of merely adequate quarterback prospects Tebow ranked near the bottom and we walk away from Mobile believing he might never be an NFL quarterback. He will have to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up to have a chance , and we cannot remember one NFL quarterback who ever had to retool his entire game before finding success in the NFL.

Teams that might have been considering Tebow in the late first or somewhere in the second round now have to re-evaluate. We have not spoken to a single talent evaluator who believes Tebow can develop into the kind of quarterback Mark Sanchez, Matthew Stafford or Joe Flacco is right now. The learning curve is just too steep in almost every area. We cannot find a way to give him any higher than a third-round grade, and even then we envision him as nothing more than a Wildcat or short-yardage quarterback who will maybe move to H-back. Overall, Senior Bowl week could not have gone worse from an on-the-field standpoint.
 

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Tebow is set. He had a great college career. He will be drafted. Yet, expectations for him are so low that he is almost guaranteed to exceed them.

I think Tebow would be a great fit here (not necessarily a first round pick though). He would be a great, fiery, locker room guy. He will be a hard worker and a content career backup who can fill other positions in a pinch.

BTW, its guys like Tebow and Pat Tillman, who exceed expectations in the NFL--smart and extremely motivated with quality experience.

I think Tebow would be a nice pick up in the third round, and maybe a little bit of a stretch in the second.
 
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I know that his goal is to play in the NFL. But if he really wants to play, then Tebow should seriously going into an alternate professional football league (Canadian, Arena, etc.) were he can get some playing time, but more importantly work on his mechanics. With some success in doing this, after a couple of years he might be able to get a real shot in the NFL.
 

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I think his work ethic alone is enough for some team to give him a shot.
 

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If nothing else, Jacksonville will take him to sell a few more tickets and merchandise (jerseys). Although they do have a Pro Bowl Quarterback currently...:D
 

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If we take a QB in the first round, whether it's Tebow or anyone else, it will be a direct and public vote of no-confidence in Matt Leinart by the team and next season could be disasterous.

I think we at least owe Matt (and Whiz) the benefit of the doubt. Draft a backup in the late rounds if you have to, but we need to focus on defense early.

I disagree. It is important to have a quality backup qb. Taking one in the first round is insurance against injury. Yes, its insurance against failure by Leinart too, but the job is his to lose. No rookie is going to take it from him.

They could also fill this need with a vet FA or through trade. You just HAVE to have a quality backup.
 

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I disagree. It is important to have a quality backup qb. Taking one in the first round is insurance against injury. Yes, its insurance against failure by Leinart too, but the job is his to lose. No rookie is going to take it from him.
You think Matt will believe that? He had the job as a rookie himself...
 

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Meh no thanks to Tebow his speed will do nothing in the nfl, and he is not a great thrower at all. There has to be better qbs in the draft we can take in the late rounds that have better promise then tebow and have the arm strength to get it downfield to our wr's.
 

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I disagree. It is important to have a quality backup qb. Taking one in the first round is insurance against injury. Yes, its insurance against failure by Leinart too, but the job is his to lose. No rookie is going to take it from him.

They could also fill this need with a vet FA or through trade. You just HAVE to have a quality backup.

I don't think a quality backup is really necessary. Hardly any NFL teams have real talent at 2nd string QB. In fact about half of them don't even have any talent at starter.

All you need is some guy who can hold down the fort for a series or a game.
 

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I don't think a quality backup is really necessary. Hardly any NFL teams have real talent at 2nd string QB. In fact about half of them don't even have any talent at starter.

All you need is some guy who can hold down the fort for a series or a game.

And those teams are the ones consistently drafting at the top of the draft. We don't want to be there. To be honest, we really need to revamp our QB position. It is not that we need to draft a backup, we might need to be drafting our future starter.

The NFL is a QB driven league, and as of now, we are short a QB. Yes, we have Leinart, but he is an unproven option that we can't bank on. We need to sign a legitimate backup like Jeff Garcia, as well as draft a QB who we can try to develop into a long term solution if Leinart doesn't succeed. Even teams like the Colts are bringing in guys like Curtis Painter so that they have a developmental option.

As for Tebow, I like him as a QB. He has what starting QB's in the NFL need and that is drive and love for the game. Tebow loves to compete, that is why he is at the Senior Bowl. Tebow loves to learn which is why he didn't want to wait to start changing into an NFL QB. Does he need work, heck ya. His mechanics need to be fixed and he needs better footwork. But, the most important thing is that he has the physical tools to play in the NFL. Also, if there is one thing that you can count on, it is that Tebow will dedicate everything that he has to learn and change into an NFL QB. He has already proven that by risking his "draft status" in order to start changing into the QB that he will need to become. It is not very often that you have guys who are willing to sacrifice money in order to develop and change their game.

I would take Tebow in the 2nd round in a heartbeat.
 

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And those teams are the ones consistently drafting at the top of the draft. We don't want to be there. To be honest, we really need to revamp our QB position. It is not that we need to draft a backup, we might need to be drafting our future starter.

The NFL is a QB driven league, and as of now, we are short a QB. Yes, we have Leinart, but he is an unproven option that we can't bank on. We need to sign a legitimate backup like Jeff Garcia, as well as draft a QB who we can try to develop into a long term solution if Leinart doesn't succeed. Even teams like the Colts are bringing in guys like Curtis Painter so that they have a developmental option.

As for Tebow, I like him as a QB. He has what starting QB's in the NFL need and that is drive and love for the game. Tebow loves to compete, that is why he is at the Senior Bowl. Tebow loves to learn which is why he didn't want to wait to start changing into an NFL QB. Does he need work, heck ya. His mechanics need to be fixed and he needs better footwork. But, the most important thing is that he has the physical tools to play in the NFL. Also, if there is one thing that you can count on, it is that Tebow will dedicate everything that he has to learn and change into an NFL QB. He has already proven that by risking his "draft status" in order to start changing into the QB that he will need to become. It is not very often that you have guys who are willing to sacrifice money in order to develop and change their game.

I would take Tebow in the 2nd round in a heartbeat.

Curtis Painter isn't much of a developmental option. Just a cheap backup they got for $300,000.

Which is all the Cards need.

I'd rather have kept Tyler Palko than waste a 2nd round pick on Tebow.
 

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And those teams are the ones consistently drafting at the top of the draft. We don't want to be there. To be honest, we really need to revamp our QB position. It is not that we need to draft a backup, we might need to be drafting our future starter.

The NFL is a QB driven league, and as of now, we are short a QB. Yes, we have Leinart, but he is an unproven option that we can't bank on. We need to sign a legitimate backup like Jeff Garcia, as well as draft a QB who we can try to develop into a long term solution if Leinart doesn't succeed. Even teams like the Colts are bringing in guys like Curtis Painter so that they have a developmental option.

As for Tebow, I like him as a QB. He has what starting QB's in the NFL need and that is drive and love for the game. Tebow loves to compete, that is why he is at the Senior Bowl. Tebow loves to learn which is why he didn't want to wait to start changing into an NFL QB. Does he need work, heck ya. His mechanics need to be fixed and he needs better footwork. But, the most important thing is that he has the physical tools to play in the NFL. Also, if there is one thing that you can count on, it is that Tebow will dedicate everything that he has to learn and change into an NFL QB. He has already proven that by risking his "draft status" in order to start changing into the QB that he will need to become. It is not very often that you have guys who are willing to sacrifice money in order to develop and change their game.

I would take Tebow in the 2nd round in a heartbeat.

You had me until Tebow...
 

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Curtis Painter isn't much of a developmental option. Just a cheap backup they got for $300,000.

Which is all the Cards need.

I'd rather have kept Tyler Palko than waste a 2nd round pick on Tebow.

Waste a pick on Tebow or on any QB?

I wish that I had the optimism that you obviously do in Leinart's ability to stay healthy, not to mention in his ability to transition into a quality starting QB. As a fan of the franchise, I hope that the Cardinals spread their eggs into multiple baskets rather than just dump them all into the Leinart/Brian St. Pierre/Tyler Palko basket that you are proposing.
 

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