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I can hear the marion whines now
He would be the 4th most special player on the team! And barbosa is gaining on him!
Marc stein - KG wants SUNNNNSSSS!!!
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I can hear the marion whines now
He would be the 4th most special player on the team! And barbosa is gaining on him!
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I will boo Marion all season until he curls up into the fetal position at center court if he causes us not to get KG....
That'd good for us, and it's probably as good as whatever the Lakers are offering, but we'd need to keep this year's picks in hopes of finding bench players. That's rotation players 6 through 8 right there.
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So where did your read about Marion saying that to bucher?
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LOL i wish... but even if they would, i think Marion's head would explode having to play 4th fiddle to Amare, Garnet, and Nash.....
but what the Hell... lets try it!
I don't think they do, because of the poison pill provision.
Thanks, I did not see that before.............it was Stein that said it.
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Oh, man. I would crap my pants if that happened!!
Why *would* they? That's worse than a Marion/Barbosa & pick trade.
I couldn't see KG going for that.
Marion is going to completely F@# this up. Though Marion would be stupid to leave 5 to 7 million on the table by opting out, it wouldn't surprise me. If this is true and we have to clear it with Marion as to which team he goes to then a trade for KG WILL NOT HAPPEN.
No way no how.
No way no how.
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Ahh, the old Matt Williams debacle all over again...
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You guys are crazy. Marion couldn't care less what we think. It's like asking you to leave an white-collar work environment to go to McDonals and flip burgers for the same money. Would you do it? Would you WANT to do it?
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mmmm
Minnesota
Randolph, Jack, Thomas, #29, Atlanta 2008, Portland 2008, Phoenix 2009
Portland
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KG
Does it work under the cap?
Edit: It does.
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Randolph, Jack, Thomas, #29, Atlanta 2008, Portland 2008, Phoenix 2009
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Does it work under the cap?
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This is not an insider article.
Wolves-Celtics trade talk? Garnett says forget it
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Updated: June 21, 2007, 6:28 PM ET
The proposed trade that would have sent Kevin Garnett to Boston, agreed to in principle by ex-teammates Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge, was taken off the table Thursday after Garnett got word to the Celtics that he doesn't want to play for them.
Garnett, according to sources close to the situation, is hoping for a trade to the Phoenix Suns if he has to leave the only team he has ever played for.
Kevin Garnett
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"The Boston trade isn't happening," Garnett's agent, Andy Miller, told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan. "If a trade were to happen, that's not a destination that we're interested in pursuing."
It appears that Wolves management -- McHale and owner Glen Taylor -- is prepared for the first time to make a deal that would end the Garnett Era in Minneapolis after 12 seasons. Taylor, according to Wolves sources, has informed Garnett directly of that change in philosophy.
But Garnett will have a stronger-than-usual say in the destination if he is indeed moved before next season because of the ability to opt of his contract in the summer of 2008 and become a free agent just over a year from now if he forfeits his $23 million salary in 2008-09.
Without at least a strong indication that Garnett would be willing to sign an extension with the Celtics, Ainge would be parting with virtually every enticing trade chip Boston has for what amounts to a one-year rental.
Which pieces? The latest incarnation of the deal, according to sources, would have required the Celtics to send blossoming forward Al Jefferson, its No. 5 overall pick in next Thursday's draft and Theo Ratliff's cap-friendly contract in addition to Wolves alumnus Wally Szczerbiak and troubled guard Sebastian Telfair in exchange for Garnett and Wolves guard Troy Hudson.
"This would be a major trade that would affect a franchise and those in the organization, so you better be sure [he wants to be there long term]," said Miller, who informed the Wolves and Celtics late Wednesday that his client had no interest in playing for Boston.
Garnett rejected the move even though it would put him in the easier-to-conquer Eastern Conference and even though he is said to be friendly with Celtics star Paul Pierce.
Garnett has said for years that he doesn't want to leave his beloved "Sota" and has consistently refused to push for a trade.
Yet he is bracing for a trade now, after hearing of Taylor's new stance, which is said to have only increased his growing frustration with Taylor and McHale.
And Garnett, sources say, wants to move to a warm-weather city and a team that can claim legitimate championship potential.
All of which should help explain why the Suns are No. 1 on his list.
Another big factor: Garnett and Suns guard Steve Nash, sources say, have become good friends over the past few years, starting in 2005 when Garnett was one of the first players in the league to call Nash and congratulate him on his first MVP trophy.
The Wolves and Suns have also discussed a Garnett trade. The Wolves, though, naturally want to trade Garnett out of their conference if they can.
If it has to deal with the Suns -- given the strong possibility Garnett won't sanction a move elsewhere -- Minnesota is expected to demand that Phoenix part with Amare Stoudemire in the exchange, as well as a first-round pick from Atlanta in the 2008 draft that is fully unprotected.
It's considered unlikely that a Suns package built around Shawn Marion and that draft pick would be enough to pry Garnett away. Complicating matters further, Marion also has the right to become a free agent after the 2007-08 season and has also let it be known that he doesn't want to play in Minnesota or Boston, sources say. That stance quickly killed the possibility of a three-way deal involving Minnesota, Phoenix and Boston.
The Suns, meanwhile, are understandably hesitant to part with Stoudemire and have tried unsuccessfully to strike a deal without giving him up. Even though Garnett would certainly help Phoenix in the short term by supplying an instant boost of veteran savvy, while also likely improving team chemistry and addressing their biggest weakness -- matching up with San Antonio's Tim Duncan -- Stoudemire is only 24 and would appear to have limitless potential after making the most high-flying comeback from microfracture knee surgery that the league has ever seen.
Although Miller declined to specify a team when asked where Garnett would prefer to be dealt -- "Too early," he said -- it's believed that Phoenix will increase its efforts between now and Thursday's draft to assembling a Stoudemire-less package to satisfy Minnesota's requirements, perhaps by pulling in another team or two.
Or perhaps they'll reverse course and surrender Stoudemire, which would finally lead to a real Garnett deal after ceaseless KG trade speculation over the past several years.
Garnett has "a good handle on the possibility of being traded," Miller said. "Kevin is an extremely loyal person, and loyalty is not a common factor among pro athletes, but in this situation he understands he has to put his long-term considerations ahead of the Minnesota Timberwolves' long-term considerations."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075
Wolves-Celtics trade talk? Garnett says forget it
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Updated: June 21, 2007, 6:28 PM ET
The proposed trade that would have sent Kevin Garnett to Boston, agreed to in principle by ex-teammates Kevin McHale and Danny Ainge, was taken off the table Thursday after Garnett got word to the Celtics that he doesn't want to play for them.
Garnett, according to sources close to the situation, is hoping for a trade to the Phoenix Suns if he has to leave the only team he has ever played for.
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"The Boston trade isn't happening," Garnett's agent, Andy Miller, told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan. "If a trade were to happen, that's not a destination that we're interested in pursuing."
It appears that Wolves management -- McHale and owner Glen Taylor -- is prepared for the first time to make a deal that would end the Garnett Era in Minneapolis after 12 seasons. Taylor, according to Wolves sources, has informed Garnett directly of that change in philosophy.
But Garnett will have a stronger-than-usual say in the destination if he is indeed moved before next season because of the ability to opt of his contract in the summer of 2008 and become a free agent just over a year from now if he forfeits his $23 million salary in 2008-09.
Without at least a strong indication that Garnett would be willing to sign an extension with the Celtics, Ainge would be parting with virtually every enticing trade chip Boston has for what amounts to a one-year rental.
Which pieces? The latest incarnation of the deal, according to sources, would have required the Celtics to send blossoming forward Al Jefferson, its No. 5 overall pick in next Thursday's draft and Theo Ratliff's cap-friendly contract in addition to Wolves alumnus Wally Szczerbiak and troubled guard Sebastian Telfair in exchange for Garnett and Wolves guard Troy Hudson.
"This would be a major trade that would affect a franchise and those in the organization, so you better be sure [he wants to be there long term]," said Miller, who informed the Wolves and Celtics late Wednesday that his client had no interest in playing for Boston.
Garnett rejected the move even though it would put him in the easier-to-conquer Eastern Conference and even though he is said to be friendly with Celtics star Paul Pierce.
Garnett has said for years that he doesn't want to leave his beloved "Sota" and has consistently refused to push for a trade.
Yet he is bracing for a trade now, after hearing of Taylor's new stance, which is said to have only increased his growing frustration with Taylor and McHale.
And Garnett, sources say, wants to move to a warm-weather city and a team that can claim legitimate championship potential.
All of which should help explain why the Suns are No. 1 on his list.
Another big factor: Garnett and Suns guard Steve Nash, sources say, have become good friends over the past few years, starting in 2005 when Garnett was one of the first players in the league to call Nash and congratulate him on his first MVP trophy.
The Wolves and Suns have also discussed a Garnett trade. The Wolves, though, naturally want to trade Garnett out of their conference if they can.
If it has to deal with the Suns -- given the strong possibility Garnett won't sanction a move elsewhere -- Minnesota is expected to demand that Phoenix part with Amare Stoudemire in the exchange, as well as a first-round pick from Atlanta in the 2008 draft that is fully unprotected.
It's considered unlikely that a Suns package built around Shawn Marion and that draft pick would be enough to pry Garnett away. Complicating matters further, Marion also has the right to become a free agent after the 2007-08 season and has also let it be known that he doesn't want to play in Minnesota or Boston, sources say. That stance quickly killed the possibility of a three-way deal involving Minnesota, Phoenix and Boston.
The Suns, meanwhile, are understandably hesitant to part with Stoudemire and have tried unsuccessfully to strike a deal without giving him up. Even though Garnett would certainly help Phoenix in the short term by supplying an instant boost of veteran savvy, while also likely improving team chemistry and addressing their biggest weakness -- matching up with San Antonio's Tim Duncan -- Stoudemire is only 24 and would appear to have limitless potential after making the most high-flying comeback from microfracture knee surgery that the league has ever seen.
Although Miller declined to specify a team when asked where Garnett would prefer to be dealt -- "Too early," he said -- it's believed that Phoenix will increase its efforts between now and Thursday's draft to assembling a Stoudemire-less package to satisfy Minnesota's requirements, perhaps by pulling in another team or two.
Or perhaps they'll reverse course and surrender Stoudemire, which would finally lead to a real Garnett deal after ceaseless KG trade speculation over the past several years.
Garnett has "a good handle on the possibility of being traded," Miller said. "Kevin is an extremely loyal person, and loyalty is not a common factor among pro athletes, but in this situation he understands he has to put his long-term considerations ahead of the Minnesota Timberwolves' long-term considerations."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2912075
What happened with Matt Williams?
Even with the poison pill, Marion/Diaw/KT for Garnett and Jaric matches up. I believe the Suns could even throw in Banks if they were savvy enough.
Throw in Atlanta's pick, and KG continues to scream...who knows, the Wolves might be willing to deal with Marion when he gets there.
Throw in Atlanta's pick, and KG continues to scream...who knows, the Wolves might be willing to deal with Marion when he gets there.
Diaw, Barbs, Thomas + all 4 picks in the next 2 years? I doubt Minny would want any part of that, but they could waive a few lame players and restock with all the picks. Also, their own pick next draft would be great because they would be horrendous this season.
Even if the teams agreed to this bizarre trade, I'm sure Stern would nix it.
Does anyone remember the Mutombo trade that was rejected several years ago? I did a brief google search and couldn't find it.
I dont think POR wants Marion enough to give up Randolph, Jack and their '08 for 'em.
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I leave this board for one hour and there is another post about Garnett with 7 pages!!! I want this to either happen or be over with because all of our companies are losing a lot of money with the amount of time were devoting to this topic!
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Matt Williams (DBacks) refused to go to Colorado in a trade for slugger ? (name escapes me at the moment). Raised quite the furor.
EDIT: Larry Walker was the Rockies player
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Well give them 29 instead of Minnesota.
I am sure Portland would love Marion for Randolph. They are shopping Randolph they are badly after a small forward..
Oden
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Roy
Rodriguez
If I am Portland I do that...
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LOL...I don't pay much attention to offseason talk so I did probably miss it.
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