Markelle Fultz

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Not PR savvy or just doesn't care?

Goes on Twitter last night and posts "excited to be going to (CITY) and can't wait to play for (TEAM NAME)."

Yep, they gave him a template to fill in with Philly and Sixers and instead he just posted the template!!!!!
 

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Not PR savvy or just doesn't care?

Goes on Twitter last night and posts "excited to be going to (CITY) and can't wait to play for (TEAM NAME)."

Yep, they gave him a template to fill in with Philly and Sixers and instead he just posted the template!!!!!

Lol

I still don't know what people are raving about with this kid.
 

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Not PR savvy or just doesn't care?

Goes on Twitter last night and posts "excited to be going to (CITY) and can't wait to play for (TEAM NAME)."

Yep, they gave him a template to fill in with Philly and Sixers and instead he just posted the template!!!!!

Maybe he's just (ADJECTIVE).
 

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Not PR savvy or just doesn't care?

Goes on Twitter last night and posts "excited to be going to (CITY) and can't wait to play for (TEAM NAME)."

Yep, they gave him a template to fill in with Philly and Sixers and instead he just posted the template!!!!!
This is the best tweet ever.
 

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he will get better but the FT shooting with him never made sense, he was a very good 3 point shooter in college but his FT% was mediocre at best.

He's currently 6-12 on FT's, the 4-8 against Toronto you can see from the replays something is in his head he's changed his form and he's just guiding the ball up there hoping it goes in. Too early to say it's a Nick Anderson thing but it is weird.

He hasn't taken a 3 yet in 3 games, let alone made one he hasn't even shot one. He'll get better but you really wonder what's going on with his shot.
 

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The only players who have been busts selected #1 overall were big men, Fultz could be the first guard. I'm not saying he will be but his shooting is bad and it's odd he hasn't taken a 3 yet in game either. He's only shooting 38% from the field also, without any 3 point attempts, and 50% from the FT line. I'm not sure how Fultz was the sure-fire #1 overall pick in this last draft. It wasn’t just with the Sixers either but he was viewed as the #1 overall pick for Boston before they traded it, there was also some talk of the Lakers being interested in him at #1 as well. I don’t think any mock drafts had him out of the #1 spot. No one said that Fultz was the best PG in the draft or the best SG for that matter, he was the best combo guard but do you really want to gamble on a player who didn't lead his team to any success in college and doesn't really have a set position in the NBA at #1 overall? I wouldn't have with the other talent that was available. It's too early to call him a bust, he could be a great player, but I think the questions about him in the NBA were legit and Philly is in a good position to utilize him for his strengths since they have Ben Simons as a distributor/playmaker as well.

Philly used the #1 overall pick on him of course but they wanted him bad enough they gave up what should be a top 10 pick this year to get him in last year’s draft. They already have another player like Fultz though in Ben Simmons although Simmons is a combo/tweener forward. Simmons also went #1 overall, doesn't have a set NBA position, couldn't lead his college team to the tournament or any real success, has a questionable competitive drive, and is a poor shooter from range and questionable FT shooter. Simmons and Fultz are actually quite comparable now that I see them together, it's just a guard version and a forward version. Neither is position-less though because they excel at both spots but they don't stand out enough at either spot to be called that type of guard or forward. Philly went all in though and ended up getting the guard and forward version of that type of player, double their odds that one pans out kind of like how we got Bender and Chriss last year for our PF of the Future.


It's odd how guards who don't fall into 1 main position, Point Guard or Shooting Guard, are called "Combo" guards but forwards who aren't quite Small Forwards or Power Forwards are called "Tweeners" instead of "Combo Forwards". I’ve always thought “tweener” was kind of derogatory. However the way the NBA is changing there really aren't 2 different kinds of forwards anymore, at least not the traditional "Small Forwards" or "Power Forwards". They have the same SF and PF abbreviations but it’s more "Stretch Forwards" and "Point Forwards" nowadays, with traditional "Power Forwards" being moved to Center. Positions in the NBA have almost all changed with their meanings, I mentioned the forwards but with the guards they've become more Point Guards/Playmaking Guards, Shooting Guards/Scoring or Slashing Guards. Centers are still Centers with their main purpose being to rebound and guard the rim. Offensively though Centers can be just about anything nowadays, it's not the low post scorers of yesteryear. Outside of those positions though there are a lot of players who don’t fit those descriptions but are now just classified as “3 & D wings”.
 

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https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/23/16518782/markelle-fultz-sixers-early-season-panic

Kind of interesting sounds like they think Fultz has a shoulder injury he's not being honest about. 3 games has not taken a shot beyond 14 feet!

I tend to agree with the author, if he's hurt, shut him down and let him heal, right now he's got no confidence at all and they can't play him that much he's killing them, they're -45 in 3 games with him on the court.

But if it's the shoulder they need to let him heal.
 

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Agent is saying he has a shoulder problem.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/agent-...drained-injured-right-shoulder-204710862.html

First agent said they had to drain the shoulder, less than day later said they actually gave him a cortisone shot.

Also mentions a knee injury which is presumably the one that Fultz shut down his college season over so it appears that injury actually was real.

Very weird, why does every Sixers draft pick get hurt and why are the initial medical reports always so inaccurate?
 

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Agent is saying he has a shoulder problem.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/agent-...drained-injured-right-shoulder-204710862.html

First agent said they had to drain the shoulder, less than day later said they actually gave him a cortisone shot.

Also mentions a knee injury which is presumably the one that Fultz shut down his college season over so it appears that injury actually was real.

Very weird, why does every Sixers draft pick get hurt and why are the initial medical reports always so inaccurate?

They played Embiid thru a meniscus injury last year and seem to be telling Fultz to tough it out. Not sure if his once perfect jumper will be permanently damaged but it looks partly mental as well.
 

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I would be happy to trade Bledsoe for Fultz. I would even give up a first in 2019.
 

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They played Embiid thru a meniscus injury last year and seem to be telling Fultz to tough it out. Not sure if his once perfect jumper will be permanently damaged but it looks partly mental as well.

Embiid begged to play and they didn't know about the tear until after the season (thought it was a bone bruise).

Fultz agent seems to be claiming injury. I think this is different (although the link to draft picks, injuries, and handling by the team all seem the same).
 

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Embiid begged to play and they didn't know about the tear until after the season (thought it was a bone bruise).

Fultz agent seems to be claiming injury. I think this is different (although the link to draft picks, injuries, and handling by the team all seem the same).

https://billypenn.com/2017/03/23/jo...t-things-the-sixers-said-about-it-a-timeline/

February 11, 2017: Shortly after Bodner’s report,Colangelo confirmed the meniscus tear to the media before the Sixers’ 117-109 win over Miami. Embiid did not play, but that was not announced until the day of the (home) game.

“A lot of players do play with minor tears,” Colangelo said via NBA.com. “Once again, the injury is thought to be mostly about the bone bruise and that’s what he’s being treated for. If he can show he is healthy and able to play, there is no reason he shouldn’t play. This is not thought to be a severe injury.”

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Sometimes listening to the athlete is the last person you should trust. Competitors want to play regardless of their health.
 

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https://billypenn.com/2017/03/23/jo...t-things-the-sixers-said-about-it-a-timeline/

February 11, 2017: Shortly after Bodner’s report,Colangelo confirmed the meniscus tear to the media before the Sixers’ 117-109 win over Miami. Embiid did not play, but that was not announced until the day of the (home) game.

“A lot of players do play with minor tears,” Colangelo said via NBA.com. “Once again, the injury is thought to be mostly about the bone bruise and that’s what he’s being treated for. If he can show he is healthy and able to play, there is no reason he shouldn’t play. This is not thought to be a severe injury.”

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Sometimes listening to the athlete is the last person you should trust. Competitors want to play regardless of their health.

Ok... Embiid's last game was January 27th. What does this show?
 

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It shows they played him with a tear in his meniscus, realized they made a mistake then shut him down.

I don't see where it shows that they knew about the tear when they played him in Jan. Can you show it to me? Maybe I missed it.
 

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I don't see where it shows that they knew about the tear when they played him in Jan. Can you show it to me? Maybe I missed it.

The tear was discovered after Embiid underwent an MRI following a 93-92 victory on January 20th over the Portland Trailblazers. Embiid left the game in the third quarter with a left knee contusion after landing awkwardly following a drive to the basket.

There is some thought that the torn meniscus could be a pre-existing condition which the ensuing MRI discovered, rather than caused by the fall on January 20th, although the two injuries being related has not been completely ruled out.

The tear is a low-grade tear and is not expected to require surgical intervention. It is unclear whether the tear is contributing to the soreness and swelling which has kept Embiid out of 11 of the last 12 games, including the last 8 in a row.

https://www.libertyballers.com/2017...trail-blazers-houston-rockets-bryan-colangelo


Gotta give Hinkie credit. He didn't play the franchise player since he wasn't 100% healthy.
 

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The tear was discovered after Embiid underwent an MRI following a 93-92 victory on January 20th over the Portland Trailblazers. Embiid left the game in the third quarter with a left knee contusion after landing awkwardly following a drive to the basket.

There is some thought that the torn meniscus could be a pre-existing condition which the ensuing MRI discovered, rather than caused by the fall on January 20th, although the two injuries being related has not been completely ruled out.

The tear is a low-grade tear and is not expected to require surgical intervention. It is unclear whether the tear is contributing to the soreness and swelling which has kept Embiid out of 11 of the last 12 games, including the last 8 in a row.

https://www.libertyballers.com/2017...trail-blazers-houston-rockets-bryan-colangelo


Gotta give Hinkie credit. He didn't play the franchise player since he wasn't 100% healthy.

Gotcha, that contradicts other articles I've read, but really the secrecy makes things difficult to know.
 
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