Matt Barkley

[Kel Varnsen]

Especially one named Matt!

LOL.

No USC quarterbacks whose first names start with 'M'.

 

[kerouac9]

Barkley who? That is what everyone is going to be saying when they see Logan Thomas for another full season.

Hmm... Gimmick offense? Check.
Garbage conference? Check.
Lack of starting experience? Check.

Tyler Wilson 2012!

 

[Russ Smith]

He's one of the few Trojans I actually like.

And he's been a friend of my niece since they were two. My sister and his mother are likethis. Please, please, please draft him so I can be the board know-it-all on what's going on with Matt. Pretty please.

Wait. I thought of something even more important on the scoop-scale. My niece is friends with his girlfriend. Come on Michael-Graves-Whiz get 'er done!

I met him once too seemed like a good kid even if he did go to USC.

My only concern with him would be he's been getting "advanced" coaching for awhile now so he may not have much room to improve.

But he's good.

Clausen I don't see the comparison, average arm, teammates hated him. When teh coach has to ask the team to vote you captain you know there's something wrong. most teams with a returning QB who's started for a year and a half automatically vote the guy captain, at ND they had to actually encourage players to vote for Clausen.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

EJ Manuel...............
Logan Thomas...........

I hope Thomas, Manuel, Barkley, AND Landry Jones all have monster years and fool scouts into taking them over the best QB in next years draft, Tyler Wilson.

edit: also I hope the guy from Tennessee who has done nothing yet but is way over-hyped has a big year too, Bray

 

[sportznutt]

Barkley's awesome, but I'm a Trojans fan, so I'm biased.

If we didn't do this for Luck, we won't do it for Barkley.

 

[oaken1]

Okay....here is the Cardinals horror story turned reality.

It does not matter how Skelton does.... we now have no starting caliber left tackle who is familiar with our offense....so the company line will be that
"Skelton did great with the help he was given but we need to see him play a season with an intact line before any judgements can be made, remember, he only has three years in the league and one off season was shortened......"

Then the team will use their top pick on an OT whether he warrants a top five pick or not.......and tell everyone they had him rated as the best player in the draft and they are thrilled to get him.
Then later they sign UDFA Kevin Pham....

 

[Gee!]

Do not draft a USC QB.

This was the first thing that came to my mind.. At this point I stay far away from USC QBs..

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Cars arent going to be that bad. The train has not de-railed. There will be a tackle availible soon via trade/FA and the Cards might end up upgrading. Kelemente and Massie may come in midseason then all of the sudden Cards have a hald decent line. If they want Barkley the need a top 3 pick.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Do not draft a USC QB.

This...times a bajillion.

 

[Bodha]

Just read that short article on NFL site of LArry praising Roddy Whites catch and at the bottom it said Larry can only wonder what life would be like with Matt Ryan throwing to him.



For some reason that genuinely pissed me off. The whole "If Larry had a good QB..." topic has been around forever, but it just got to me just now, for no particular reason.


I feel like we MUST go get a QB. Barkely next year, no matter what it takes. Give up 2-3 future first rounders, whatever it takes, because Fitzgerald, HOFr, one of the classiest dudes to ever play, is wasting his time in AZ while we dick around at QB. Ive alreadys accepted ADub will never win a ring because of his loyalty to AZ, but it doesnt have to be so with Larry. Well never have a talent like him again, we should do everything possible (EVERYTHING) to go get a franchise QB and make a legit push for a ring within the next 2-3 years. Win now mode because the window is closing. We have nothing to lose. Weve sucked for 100 years, might as well throw all our eggs in 1 basket and go for it once. If we fail, not like itll be anything new.

/rant

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think many think Tyler Wilson will go ahead of Barkley.

Despite being a Trojan I actually do like Barkley, I don't think he's a great player but I think he can be a good solid NFL QB, and he has starter talent.

I know he's been very well coached for a long time which makes you wonder what his ceiling is, but he was REALLY good last year.

Consider private coaching growing up, 4 years at Mater Dei, Kiffin may be an idiot but he can coach QB's and before that Carroll's staff.

He's just never struck me as wow that kid is going to be a Pro Bowler.

But he's played a lot more in college than Wilson has.

I like Wilson more. He doesn't have prototypical size, but he moves well, is accurate and can really throw the football.

Go watch the game film when he played against Cam Newton and Auburn in relief of Ryan Mallet. Very impressive.

 

[Jetstream Green]

"Draft some other QB - risky"

I would pick that one if the word 'risky' was not put next to it, because to me Tyler Wilson is a lot less of a risk than another USC QB trying to make it in the NFL. But even so, this poll seems useless to me because I do not see this team tanking enough to be in a position to pick the top rated QBs. This young defense, and playmakers on special teams will be enough to keep us out of the top ten picks in my opinion.

 

[Pariah]

It's ALL a risk. Man, Leinart was supposed to be a slam dunk.

 

[Phrazbit]

"Draft some other QB - risky"

I would pick that one if the word 'risky' was not put next to it, because to me Tyler Wilson is a lot less of a risk than another USC QB trying to make it in the NFL. But even so, this poll seems useless to me because I do not see this team tanking enough to be in a position to pick the top rated QBs. This young defense, and playmakers on special teams will be enough to keep us out of the top ten picks in my opinion.

Yeah, I didnt bother to vote. I dont like any of the options. I'm intregued by Barkley but wouldnt throw the season or multiple future 1sts to get him.

For option 2... I'd probably take best QB on the board, that might include Barkley, it might not, or it might involve waiting for round 2 in hopes for better value... who knows.

I wouldnt invest big in free agent QBs. Teams dont let future franchise QBs walk in free agency. For example: Green Bay letting Flynn walk... then the Dolphins (whos head coach was Flynn's offensive coordinator) not pursuing, was pretty telling about Flynn's potential IMO.

And unless Skelton shows something then obviously we should look towards the draft.

 

[Russ Smith]

There's a bit article in SI onBarkley, read it in the dentists office yesterday. As always you read the article and think this guy is awesome we gotta have this kid.

He's a very efficient college QB I just don't know how much of last year was due to playing with 2 WR's who'll be picked in the first 2 rounds eventually, and might both go first round(different drafts).

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

There's a bit article in SI onBarkley, read it in the dentists office yesterday. As always you read the article and think this guy is awesome we gotta have this kid.

He's a very efficient college QB I just don't know how much of last year was due to playing with 2 WR's who'll be picked in the first 2 rounds eventually, and might both go first round(different drafts).

I'm with you in that I'm always leery of guys playing with superior talent. Guys like Luck, RGIII, and Wilson have good talent around them but not elite talent. They make their WR's look better and, while Barkley is very good, his WR's probably make him look better.

If you look at it lately, QB's from teams loaded with talent haven't fared all that well in the NFL. JaMarcus Russel, Leinart, Bradford, any Florida or OSU QB, and Sanchez are all QB's that played on very talented teams and haven't done all that much in the NFL.

On the other hand, guys from scholls a rung, or two below the elite college teams have fared pretty well. Eli from Ole Miss, Rodgers from Cal, Ryan from BC, Brees from Purdue, Rivers from NC State, are all examples. I would even put Cam Newton and Stafford in this class. Auburn and UGA are very good programs but I wouldn't put them in the elite, but they're close. Morseo UGA than Auburn.

 

[PACardsFan]

I'm with you in that I'm always leery of guys playing with superior talent. Guys like Luck, RGIII, and Wilson have good talent around them but not elite talent. They make their WR's look better and, while Barkley is very good, his WR's probably make him look better.

If you look at it lately, QB's from teams loaded with talent haven't fared all that well in the NFL. JaMarcus Russel, Leinart, Bradford, any Florida or OSU QB, and Sanchez are all QB's that played on very talented teams and haven't done all that much in the NFL.

On the other hand, guys from scholls a rung, or two below the elite college teams have fared pretty well. Eli from Ole Miss, Rodgers from Cal, Ryan from BC, Brees from Purdue, Rivers from NC State, are all examples. I would even put Cam Newton and Stafford in this class. Auburn and UGA are very good programs but I wouldn't put them in the elite, but they're close. Morseo UGA than Auburn.

I agree. Also, if we're not in position to draft a QB, I'd look at veteran FA's that have proven that they are legit NFL QB's. Similar to what we did with Warner. They may be in their early to mid 30's, but still have 3-4 years in them. Stay away from the Kolb's & Flynn's of the world, as they are too risky.

 

[Bodha]

It's ALL a risk. Man, Leinart was supposed to be a slam dunk.

I agree, but if we do risk it, we might as well go for the guy who has the biggest upside. Not on some guy who will be, at best, OK. And when was the last time we took a major risk? And im talking about going after a major talent, not taking someone of questionable character (and imt talking mainly draft here, not Peyton). The Falcons did it with Julio Jones and hes busting out this preseason. RG3 is working out pretty well for the Skins thus far.

I disagree on Leinart. If he were a franchise QB, whyd he go 10th? Denny Green was an idiot, thats all that was.

I'm intregued by Barkley but wouldnt throw the season or multiple future 1sts to get him.

"wouldnt throw the season", because we have so much going for us as is?

This is exactly what im talking about. Weve been in that ^^ mode for our entire history. Weve gone to the SB once in recent memory, and that was with a HOF QB. You think Skelton or some 2nd, 3rd round "maybe hell work out" QB draft pick will get us back?

Enough of this "wait and see" mentality. We need to shake things up for once and make moves, make things happen. Is Barkley a franchise QB? Who knows, but hes the best possible option we have at one in the foreseeable future.

For option 2... I'd probably take best QB on the board, that might include Barkley, it might not, or it might involve waiting for round 2 in hopes for better value... who knows.

That sentence sums up my gripe. That what champs do? Sit back and wait and hope? Maybe the lombardi fairy will deliver us a trophy if we wait long enough. We are bound to stumble upon a HOFr in the 5th round because we're overdue for one. It wouldnt be fair if we didnt win a championship soon because weve been so patient in the meantime.

you get my point? That hope for value mindset is nauseating to a fan. Lets go take guys of value, not cross our fingers for one.

 

[Phrazbit]

I agree, but if we do risk it, we might as well go for the guy who has the biggest upside. Not on some guy who will be, at best, OK. And when was the last time we took a major risk? And im talking about going after a major talent, not taking someone of questionable character (and imt talking mainly draft here, not Peyton). The Falcons did it with Julio Jones and hes busting out this preseason. RG3 is working out pretty well for the Skins thus far.

I disagree on Leinart. If he were a franchise QB, whyd he go 10th? Denny Green was an idiot, thats all that was.



"wouldnt throw the season", because we have so much going for us as is?

This is exactly what im talking about. Weve been in that ^^ mode for our entire history. Weve gone to the SB once in recent memory, and that was with a HOF QB. You think Skelton or some 2nd, 3rd round "maybe hell work out" QB draft pick will get us back?

Enough of this "wait and see" mentality. We need to shake things up for once and make moves, make things happen. Is Barkley a franchise QB? Who knows, but hes the best possible option we have at one in the foreseeable future.



That sentence sums up my gripe. That what champs do? Sit back and wait and hope? Maybe the lombardi fairy will deliver us a trophy if we wait long enough. We are bound to stumble upon a HOFr in the 5th round because we're overdue for one. It wouldnt be fair if we didnt win a championship soon because weve been so patient in the meantime.

you get my point? That hope for value mindset is nauseating to a fan. Lets go take guys of value, not cross our fingers for one.

Its not that I wouldnt want to tank for a great QB, its that I am not convinced that Barkley is good.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Bodha,

If we're taking the guy with the most "upside" than you go with Logan Thomas. Is he likely to realize that upside, no, but he's got a ton of talent. He's just not that good right now compared with Wilson or Barkley.

 

[Bodha]

Its not that I wouldnt want to tank for a great QB, its that I am not convinced that Barkley is good.

Who said anything about tanking?

Again, my point. Why do we have to wait for the horrible 1-15 year to get the guy we need? Your playing it safe. You gotta risk it to get the biscuit, and thats what champs do. We might be picking 9th overall this year, why cant we trade up for Barkely? Probably 2 future 1sts I say.

You say 2 future 1sts are too much? Why? Do I need to list how much value weve gotten out of our 1st round picks in the last 6 years?


You arent convinced with Matt, thats fine. Few guys are Luck-level. But if not him, then who? I bet $5 you say "wait for one worth going after". And the most important word in that sentence:

wait


Barks gonna win the Heisman. Hes the most polished QB in college FB today, and will be come draft. Is he a hofr? Who knows, but he has the best chance of all QBs available and we need to take that chance.

Bodha,

If we're taking the guy with the most "upside" than you go with Logan Thomas. Is he likely to realize that upside, no, but he's got a ton of talent. He's just not that good right now compared with Wilson or Barkley.

That answers that question as to why Matts the best option.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

There's a bit article in SI onBarkley, read it in the dentists office yesterday. As always you read the article and think this guy is awesome we gotta have this kid.

I read that. I like Matt but the article, which read like it was a USC puff piece, made it sound like he could walk from Newport Beach to Catalina.

Probably not.

 

[crisper57]

Just say no to USC QBs

 

[binkar]

Give me Logan Thomas or Tyler Wilson.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Barkley who? That is what everyone is going to be saying when they see Logan Thomas for another full season.

Was watching highlights of Logan Thomas earlier and couldn't help but think that he reminded me of a slightly less mobile Cam Newton. If he shows improvement this season than I would love for the Cards to take a chance on the guy.