McNabb???

[Cbus cardsfan]

Graves...NO interest in McNabb

I didn't think Graves knew how to text and why's he texting you?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

FWIW, I was one of like 5 people on this board who stuck with Warner form the time he got here until he became a beast again. I don't remember any of you geniuses being included in the other 4.

I wasn't either. It just goes to show you that fans don't always know what is best for the team.

 

[CaptTurbo]

He is the greatest Iggles QB ever & still gets no respect.

First, the eagles do not exactly have a great QB lineage.

Second they have a great defensice history. The eagles are a lot like Baltimore when they won the superbowl. Great defense. great rb, no real passing game to be feared.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I said was, meaning before Whisenhunt and the Superbowl run.

Well this opinion of McNabb is pretty universal and made after 10 years. So your "big portion though Warner stunk" isnt really apples to apples is it? Lets at least agree on that.

 

[CaptTurbo]

FWIW, I was one of like 5 people on this board who stuck with Warner form the time he got here until he became a beast again. I don't remember any of you geniuses being included in the other 4.

Hey go back. I started a thread that we had the best backup in the league that could step in and win games any time.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I would love to see McNabb with the rams so we can ensure that organizations ineptitude for another few years. No top 5 defense or HOF pass cathcing RB on that team.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Well this opinion of McNabb is pretty universal and made after 10 years. So your "big portion though Warner stunk" isnt really apples to apples is it? Lets at least agree on that.

I don't agree that opinion of McNabb is universal. It's why are having this discussion.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I would love to see McNabb with the rams so we can ensure that organizations ineptitude for another few years. No top 5 defense or HOF pass cathcing RB on that team.

I wouldn't sleep to hard on Jackson.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I wouldn't sleep to hard on Jackson.

Great RB. But a screen pass catching RB? He has a lot to be desired when compared to Westbrook.

I think you guys have short memories as do I when it comes to players you dont see often. I saw Westbrook almost every game of his career. He was amazing.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Worth pondering: Had Chicago not traded two 1's, a 3 and Orton to Denver last year, it could have had McNabb this year - for way less.

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

 

[Lorenzo]

Why do you talk about something you have zero knowledge of. Talk to some eagles fans ask them. Your wasting no more of my time proving a well know fact.

Hell watch the last drive of the NFC championship game lol

Or hell the entire first half when he was missing wide open receivers.

Eagles fans are the worst in the game. why would anyone want to talk to them except for you...all joking aside I do know some smart eagles fans that will give mcnabb credit where he is do. but i don't understand all of the other crybaby eagles fans that are just too caught up with their team being good (not great) and not able to deal with it.

Mcnabb is a good...maybe great QB....one of the best the last decade overall from a consistency standpoint. He is not perfect, but then again neither was warner. a few years ago he was a washed up bum that couldn't hold on to a snap because he had bad thumbs right? Now that warner is gone mcnabb is by far a better option than anything else the cards have on their roster. anyone who is content to go with the likes of a guy who has done nothing, but prove that he is not ready to be a above average NFL QB...over a guy like mcnabb has to be thinking out of box entirely.

 

[Lorenzo]

Great RB. But a screen pass catching RB? He has a lot to be desired when compared to Westbrook.

I think you guys have short memories as do I when it comes to players you dont see often. I saw Westbrook almost every game of his career. He was amazing.

I would much rather have jackson. and jackson is pretty good in the passing game as well. yes westbrook is great catching the ball, but he is not a elite game changing running back because he can't run the ball out of the backfield like a powerful running back on a consistent basis. in fact the guy can't even stay on the field for a season. I would say the eagles won many of games without him. They even won games without T.O. the year that he was sooooo great in philly. What was the constant?? Mcnabb was. they have done nothing but win with him under center.

for the same token fans can say that warner wasn't that great in AZ because all he had to do was throw jump balls to fitz. We can call out his blunderous interception in the SB that cost the cardinals the game...as philly radicals will blame mcnabb for not being able to rally from behind against N.E. but that would be a radical opinion that looks away from all of the great things that made those guys a great QB. Mcnabb has flaws, but he is still an elite QB in this league.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I would much rather have jackson. and jackson is pretty good in the passing game as well. yes westbrook is great catching the ball, but he is not a elite game changing running back because he can't run the ball out of the backfield like a powerful running back on a consistent basis. in fact the guy can't even stay on the field for a season. I would say the eagles won many of games without him. They even won games without T.O. the year that he was sooooo great in philly. What was the constant?? Mcnabb was. they have done nothing but win with him under center.

for the same token fans can say that warner wasn't that great in AZ because all he had to do was throw jump balls to fitz. We can call out his blunderous interception in the SB that cost the cardinals the game...as philly radicals will blame mcnabb for not being able to rally from behind against N.E. but that would be a radical opinion that looks away from all of the great things that made those guys a great QB. Mcnabb has flaws, but he is still an elite QB in this league.

Jackson is also a great in pass protection.

 

[john h]

Reid: Eagles 'listening' to trade offers for QBs

could we snag McNabb.

Read a couple of articles about how lousy Reid and the brass have treated McNabb. In his many years at Philly he has had two class receivers and has thrown around 3500 yds. The guy does deserve a little more respect than he is getting. Article suggested he should demand a trade. The article further mentioned three teams that could use them. One of the three was the Cards.

 

[john h]

Reid: Eagles 'listening' to trade offers for QBs

could we snag McNabb.

There were a lot of post on the board that said we were crazy when we signed Kurt Warner. McNabb would likely beat out Matt but like Kurt would be good for about 3 or so years and by that time Matt would be out of here. There are pluses and minuses to signing a player like McNabb. I just do not see the Cards making a move like that after all the time & money they have invested in Matt. We will likely sink or swim with Matt. Teams these days do not build for the future. They generally play to win now for the future is now.

 

[40yearfan]

Read a couple of articles about how lousy Reid and the brass have treated McNabb. In his many years at Philly he has had two class receivers and has thrown around 3500 yds. The guy does deserve a little more respect than he is getting. Article suggested he should demand a trade. The article further mentioned three teams that could use them. One of the three was the Cards.

Agreed. I had McNabb a few years back on my fantasy team, so I've kind of followed him since. He is a good QB and a consumate team player.

I would just as soon start Lienart and see what we have, but I sure wouldn't run McNabb down.

 

[PoolBoy]

this is the thread that won't die.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Many experts think McNabb to 49ers makes them SB contenders!

OK...If all you so called Cardinal experts think McNabb wouldn't help us. Then why is every major Football writer saying that if the 49ers get McNabb they will be the overwhleming favorite in the West and SuperBowl contenders!?!?!

• Mark Eckel, Times of Trenton: "Put McNabb in that lineup and the 49ers become the overwhelming favorites in the division and a Super Bowl contender."
• Mike Lombardi, National Football Post: "More mistakes are made by organizations incorrectly evaluating their own teams and counting on the wrong players. This is called a 'convenient truth' that allows teams to believe something is true and failing to address the problem. Ask any quality NFL talent evaluator about the 49ers and he’ll tell you they need offensive line help and a quarterback. But the 49ers don’t see QB as a need, which is convenient for them."
• Adam Schefter, ESPN: "Put McNabb on the 49ers roster and they become instant favorites to win the NFC West and as formidable as anyone in the NFC."
• Carl Steward, Oakland Tribune: "With Kurt Warner now retired, the 49ers already seem to believe they're the heir apparent division champs by default. They may be right, but while minimal changes could get them an NFC West title, it won't get them anywhere near a Super Bowl. McNabb could change that."
• Tim Kawakami, San Jose Mercury News: "Even with a potential game-change move in front of them, they're just not set up to make a decision like this. They just want to get through the draft, then finalize the ... power base, then see what happens with the stadium vote. Which means the McNabb opportunity could come and go before the 49ers are ready to do anything."
• Matt Williamson, Scouts Inc.: "It would be an extremely proactive, aggressive approach that to me would firmly put them as the No. 1 team in the division. And that is enough for me to say, 'Give it a shot.'"

So please tell me why we shouldn't try to trade for him again??? Why do our fans not see things that many people WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING see. I mean it was painfully obvious to me Warner should have started years ago...and looked what happened. Yet Leinart fans wouldnt die. Now we could get McNabb with a pick...and instantly keep us contenders...and we want to go with Leinart and Anderson??? Are you kidding me...Didn't the Josh McCown and Jeff Blake efforts prove this wont work?????

 

[kerouac9]

I think the reasonableness of your argument is inversely proportional to the number of exclamation points and question marks you use in your post.

The 49ers and Cards are different teams. With McNabb, the 49ers could run the offense that Jimmy Raye wanted to run--power running/vertical passing. It would make Frank Gore better and maybe their offensive line, as well. The defense for the 49ers is already in place, without question. Maybe the coaching staff is in place (although I don't think so).

Honestly, I think that the 49ers are right now competitive with the Cards in the NFC West as long as they learn to win games outside of the division. Adding a QB moves them from "Competitive" to "Favorites." That's how it is.

The Cards aren't in the same place. They're refitting their offense anyway for Leinart; McNabb wouldn't be able to run the Warner offense for this team. Also, this offense relies on a lot more timing routes than even Reid's West Coast system. McNabb has never been able to be an accurate quarterback in that system.

 

[TJ]

OMG here we go again.....

Havent you learned the last 2 years of being a Cards fan not listen to the national media? After 3 games last season, Ray Ratto told the NFL to give SF the division crown right then and there. He was seriously wrong.

These are prognosticators and prognosticators are wrong more times than not.

The reason we dont add McNabb is because he does not know our system like Leinart does and he'll cost $14 mil. Not worth it for an aging, inaccurate QB.

Leinart is not McCown or Blake. Just relax.

 

[joeshmo]

OK...If all you so called Cardinal experts think McNabb wouldn't help us. Then why is every major Football writer saying that if the 49ers get McNabb they will be the overwhleming favorite in the West and SuperBowl contenders!?!?!

• Mark Eckel, Times of Trenton: "Put McNabb in that lineup and the 49ers become the overwhelming favorites in the division and a Super Bowl contender."
• Mike Lombardi, National Football Post: "More mistakes are made by organizations incorrectly evaluating their own teams and counting on the wrong players. This is called a 'convenient truth' that allows teams to believe something is true and failing to address the problem. Ask any quality NFL talent evaluator about the 49ers and he’ll tell you they need offensive line help and a quarterback. But the 49ers don’t see QB as a need, which is convenient for them."
• Adam Schefter, ESPN: "Put McNabb on the 49ers roster and they become instant favorites to win the NFC West and as formidable as anyone in the NFC."
• Carl Steward, Oakland Tribune: "With Kurt Warner now retired, the 49ers already seem to believe they're the heir apparent division champs by default. They may be right, but while minimal changes could get them an NFC West title, it won't get them anywhere near a Super Bowl. McNabb could change that."
• Tim Kawakami, San Jose Mercury News: "Even with a potential game-change move in front of them, they're just not set up to make a decision like this. They just want to get through the draft, then finalize the ... power base, then see what happens with the stadium vote. Which means the McNabb opportunity could come and go before the 49ers are ready to do anything."
• Matt Williamson, Scouts Inc.: "It would be an extremely proactive, aggressive approach that to me would firmly put them as the No. 1 team in the division. And that is enough for me to say, 'Give it a shot.'"

So please tell me why we shouldn't try to trade for him again??? Why do our fans not see things that many people WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING see. I mean it was painfully obvious to me Warner should have started years ago...and looked what happened. Yet Leinart fans wouldnt die. Now we could get McNabb with a pick...and instantly keep us contenders...and we want to go with Leinart and Anderson??? Are you kidding me...Didn't the Josh McCown and Jeff Blake efforts prove this wont work?????

The same experts also thought we were the worst playoff team of all time in 2008. The same experts thought Warner was a has been when he left the Rams. The same experts thought Robert Gallery was the most cant miss prospect in 20 years.

Also your quotes dont match your title. ONly two out of all your quotes says they would be super bowl contenders, Lombardi and Kawakami doesnt even say they would be super bowl or even division contenders.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I remember when everyone thought Culpepper was the bomb. Once he lost his great receivers he was nothing. Once McNabb loses his defense he will not be a winner.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

So please tell me why we shouldn't try to trade for him again???

Cause our starting QB is Matt Leinart.

 

[Cardiac]

The same experts also thought we were the worst playoff team of all time in 2008. The same experts thought Warner was a has been when he left the Rams. The same experts thought Robert Gallery was the most cant miss prospect in 20 years.

Also your quotes dont match your title. ONly two out of all your quotes says they would be super bowl contenders, Lombardi and Kawakami doesnt even say they would be super bowl or even division contenders.

This.

Plus the media has ZERO respect for Matt at this point so they think we will take HUGE steps back in the division.

I think K 9 also has nailed it.

 

[nashman]

Because even Leinart is more accurate than an overpaid, aging, innacurate McNabb! We will be just fine.