MHJ

[Brian in Mesa]

With Jeff Blake at QB.

Granted, nobody expects a crazy performance like Boldin in week 1, but certainly 1 catch for 4 yards seemed even more improbable.

His dad can forever hold it over him that he did much better in his NFL debut - against the Cardinals.

Marvin Harrison, Sr. made his NFL debut in Week 1 of the 1996 NFL season against the Arizona Cardinals with six receptions for 85 yards and a touchdown reception from quarterback Jim Harbaugh in the 20–13 victory.

 

[CardNots]

His dad can forever hold it over him that he did much better in his NFL debut - against the Cardinals.

Marvin Harrison, Sr. made his NFL debut in Week 1 of the 1996 NFL season against the Arizona Cardinals with six receptions for 85 yards and a touchdown reception from quarterback Jim Harbaugh in the 20–13 victory.

I’m pretty sure dad played a bit in the 4 preseason games.

 

[BritCard]

Here's every Marv route from Sunday.

My thoughts.

I don't think Marv played well. He didn't look fast and I didn't think he looked crisp in his breaks. There are some routes that I think are option routes (hard to tell) where he runs the wrong choice. When he is open it's more the route / play design or poor defence than Marv separating.

Also I don't like the routes he was asked to run. A lot of long developing routes that are unlikely to have the time. A lot of routes where he is obviously just clearing out his man for someone else.

Overall not great. Oh and he was open like 6 times on that busted play at the end.

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[kerouac9]

I don't think Marv played well. He didn't look fast and I didn't think he looked crisp in his breaks

Agree with this. Maybe there’s more nuance in what he’s doing than can be seen in the all-22, but I’m used to seeing a lot more snap.

 

[DVontel]

Is it possible that MHJ is not in tip-top shape? Idk, dude looked legit sluggish a majority of those routes.

 

[PlayerHater]

Here's every Marv route from Sunday.

My thoughts.

I don't think Marv played well. He didn't look fast and I didn't think he looked crisp in his breaks. There are some routes that I think are option routes (hard to tell) where he runs the wrong choice. When he is open it's more the route / play design or poor defence than Marv separating.

Also I don't like the routes he was asked to run. A lot of long developing routes that are unlikely to have the time. A lot of routes where he is obviously just clearing out his man for someone else.

Overall not great. Oh and he was open like 6 times on that busted play at the end.

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Going back and watching his performance he looked far from a generational talent. Several other rookie receivers look more explosive and polished in week 1. I do also think they did him no favors with the routes they had him running and the lack of preparation in the pre season.

 

[kerouac9]

Is it possible that MHJ is not in tip-top shape? Idk, dude looked legit sluggish a majority of those routes.

Maybe he didn’t have to work hard to beat our guys in training camp. Yecch

So much hype.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Cheesebeef]

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That’s troubling. Kids gotta kick it up a bunch of notches if he wants to be a star in this league.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Shane]

That’s troubling. Kids gotta kick it up a bunch of notches if he wants to be a star in this league.

That’s actually incredibly slow…. Kinda shocked by that

 

[Chopper0080]

Is it possible that MHJ is not in tip-top shape? Idk, dude looked legit sluggish a majority of those routes.

It might be a situation where he added bulk in anticipation of the physicality of the pro game and lost a little speed as a result. He probably will lean down if that is the case.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That’s actually incredibly slow…. Kinda shocked by that

Same and I was a staunch Harrison over all others guy.

 

[BritCard]

Is it possible that MHJ is not in tip-top shape? Idk, dude looked legit sluggish a majority of those routes.

I don't see how. He skipped the combine and all the prep specifically so he could be in tip top game shape week 1.

 

[DVontel]

I don't see how. He skipped the combine and all the prep specifically so he could be in tip top game shape week 1.

Then there’s no reason he looked as sluggish as he did.

 

[BritCard]

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Holy crap, and some of these routes are long routes where he should be getting up to speed.

I'm not concerned that this is how fast he is, teams have GPS tracking and he hit 21.7mph last season apparently. They know how fast he accelerates and max speeds from that.

But it's odd how he was so slow in this game. The only thing I can think if that on a lot of these longer routes he knew that he wasn't getting the ball due to the weather, or because the play was designed for him to clear out the CB for someone else. The CB is going to track you whether you run 16 or 21.

Still odd though, and I'm disappointed in the team for the way they used him. You owe a duty to you star WR and #1 overall pick to showcase him in game 1. This is a game he grew up dreaming about, and he didn't dream of 4 yards and running clearout routes.

 

[BritCard]

It might be a situation where he added bulk in anticipation of the physicality of the pro game and lost a little speed as a result. He probably will lean down if that is the case.

He'd have to add about 100lbs to go from 21.7mph to 16

 

[BritCard]

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lol Treylon Burks.

Called that one right, I never liked him pre draft.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

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[Shane]

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Call me crazy or whatever but that just sounds like there wasn’t a lot of effort put into his routes but what do I know

 

[kerouac9]

Call me crazy or whatever but that just sounds like there wasn’t a lot of effort put into his routes but what do I know

Probably distracted by the jersey situation

 

[MadCardDisease]

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Here's every Marv route from Sunday.

My thoughts.

I don't think Marv played well. He didn't look fast and I didn't think he looked crisp in his breaks. There are some routes that I think are option routes (hard to tell) where he runs the wrong choice. When he is open it's more the route / play design or poor defence than Marv separating.

Also I don't like the routes he was asked to run. A lot of long developing routes that are unlikely to have the time. A lot of routes where he is obviously just clearing out his man for someone else.

Overall not great. Oh and he was open like 6 times on that busted play at the end.

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Off Topic from MHJr

At the 1:35 mark Jonah goes down with the knee injury. It didn't look good to me.

 

[MadCardDisease]

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He can do it. He just need to catch the ball so he can run with it.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I don't see how. He skipped the combine and all the prep specifically so he could be in tip top game shape week 1.

Maybe he should have trained for the 40, after all. His get up and go, has gotten up and went.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Didn't some people knock Coleman for not having elite speed?