Miami/Riley Hot after Amare- Per Yahoo..

[82CardsGrad]

If only we can move jrich as well. 16th and 18th picks in the first round don't exite me.

Ha?? Are you serious?? Wow...

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I'd take Larry Sanders and a 5 with those picks. I wouldn't say I would be 'excited' about those picks, but they have a tangible value for rebuilding this team....

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Just checked NBAdraft.net and I'd take Sanders and Alabi and be happy as hell....

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Hey, I'm all about turning Beasley (and, say, JRich) into Iguodala.

Why on earth would you prefer Iggy to Beasley? Beasley is younger, more talented, and plays a much more important position. Oh, and he's not stuck with a bad contract as well. It's amazing how people are comfortable with the idea of paying Iggy 15-16 mil per, which is essentially max money for a non-max player. He's not even a top 20, let alone top 40 player.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I'd prefer Beasley, but I'm not calling the shots. I think Beasley is the ultimate low risk, high reward kind of player. I'd be happier running, say, Nash-JRich-Beasley-Sanders-Lopez and work on trading JRich next year as an expiring....

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I'd prefer Beasley, but I'm not calling the shots. I think Beasley is the ultimate low risk, high reward kind of player. I'd be happier running, say, Nash-JRich-Beasley-Sanders-Lopez and work on trading JRich next year as an expiring....

Totally agree. For the life of me, I cannot understand the FO's aversion to Beasley. He's a scoring machine, and HE'S ONLY 21. He has 2 years left on his deal, so why not see what he has?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Why on earth would you prefer Iggy to Beasley? Beasley is younger, more talented, and plays a much more important position. Oh, and he's not stuck with a bad contract as well. It's amazing how people are comfortable with the idea of paying Iggy 15-16 mil per, which is essentially max money for a non-max player. He's not even a top 20, let alone top 40 player.

According to Gambo, the deal with Beasley is that he apparently has a bad rap regarding his character... Not sure exactly what all he did to earn this reputation as a high-risk character dude, but it's there. Of course, he is only 21 years old so no doubt he has a ton of maturing to do, both on and off the court...
The other thing to consider is that if this deal with the Heat did go down, there is no guarantee that the Suns would be able to get a trade for Beasley done in time. Which means the Suns could end up with Beasley for the remainder of the season, giving them 2 months or so to see what he really is all about. Who knows, maybe he's not the bad guy some people think he is...

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Nets can smell Wall. They would never trade that 1st pick for a possible Amare rental.

yeah, but might amare be persuaded to stay there with the ny market? and if they draft wall they'll have to move harris. harris won't bring a pf the talent of amare. so they have a choice:

wall
lee
yi
(whatever second rate PF they get for harris)
lopez

OR

harris
lee
yi
amare
lopez

with both amare and harris being known commodities that's a nice young starting 5. if they go the wall route, yeah they'll be getting a POTENTIAL stud in wall (but that's not certain) and they will be getting some unknown, likely lesser talent, for their 4 spot.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

i like iggy, just not so much for this team. we know his ceiling. he's at it. we need to take some gambles. that's why i'm for beasley. go for the homerun.

you get beasley and two #1's you've got 3 young pieces to put with your other young pieces. then you trade nash (agreed, love the dude, but all for blowing it all up) and jrich's expiring next year. then you're super young, have your draft pick (which will likely be a high pick due to all the youth on the team), and you're waaay ahead in your rebuilding project.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

you get beasley and two #1's you've got 3 young pieces to put with your other young pieces. then you trade nash (agreed, love the dude, but all for blowing it all up) and jrich's expiring next year. then you're super young, have your draft pick (which will likely be a high pick due to all the youth on the team), and you're waaay ahead in your rebuilding project.

This seems like such a no-brainer it's ridiculous. Beasley/Clark/Lopez would be an exciting young front line with a nice mix of offense/defense.

 

[TBaslim]

They're saying that the Suns have ZERO interest in Beasley... They would look to trade him ASAP, possibly to Philly for Iguadala... which would mean we get two first rounders (16th and 18th picks) and Iguadala for Amare. Not too shabby at all!

EDIT: Gambo just said that the Suns would most likely need to toss in someone else along with Beasley to get Iguadala. I'm not so sure about that...

The Suns would have to move someone with Beasley to get Iggy, if that's the plan. Iggy makes ~$15m/year, while Beasley makes ~$4m. JRich would be the best, but Philly would have to send someone else back with Iggy (or draft picks).

 

[Chaplin]

When I read "16th and 18th picks", I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being packaged to move up in the draft. I'm all for that.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

When I read "16th and 18th picks", I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being packaged to move up in the draft. I'm all for that.

+1

 

[hcsilla]

When I read "16th and 18th picks", I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being packaged to move up in the draft.

When I read 16th and 18th picks, I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being sold for cash and future considerations.

 

[S_Nash]

LOL!

 

[Divide Et Impera]

When I read "16th and 18th picks", I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being packaged to move up in the draft. I'm all for that.

That's also a great plan, too....

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

When I read "16th and 18th picks", I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being packaged to move up in the draft. I'm all for that.

i thought you were going to write, "When I read "16th and 18th picks", I don't see 2 young players, I see those picks being sold" - which i totally would believe (sigh). but i'm on board with packaging them to move up as well. though that seems so uncommon. not like the nfl draft where teams routinely package picks to move up.

 

[elindholm]

though that seems so uncommon. not like the nfl draft where teams routinely package picks to move up.

It's because you need dozens of good players to field a good NFL team, but only a few stars to have a good NBA team. No one in the top ten of an NBA draft wants to trade down, because there's no substitute for maximizing your chance to get a star.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It's because you need dozens of good players to field a good NFL team, but only a few stars to have a good NBA team. No one in the top ten of an NBA draft wants to trade down, because there's no substitute for maximizing your chance to get a star.

exactly why i don't think chap's plan of trading them to move up will come to fruition.

 

[joshstmarie]

Arguing with Josh about Barbosa is futile, the dude just don't like him. I cant believe a fan would actually say LB cant create his own shot, he is one the best instant offense off the bench for the price in the league. I hope he comes back fully healthy and stick it to josh.

I know, I know.. I should lay of LB. Im going overboard. BUT theres a difference between scoring and being able to create your own shot.

Example LBJ, Rose, Nash, Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Harden....ect a small sample of guys I think can create their own shot.. LB is a spot up shooter or a pick and roll north/south driver.

Anyhoo. he really has missed over 1/5th of his career games. AND he does fold in the playoffs. Although I will admit I probably exaggerated in saying that he is overpaid.

I promise to leave him alone untill the offseason.

 

[joshstmarie]

i like iggy, just not so much for this team. we know his ceiling. he's at it.

Ehh, Nash raises everyones ceiling. But I dont like his contract one bit.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I know, I know.. I should lay of LB. Im going overboard. BUT theres a difference between scoring and being able to create your own shot.

Example LBJ, Rose, Nash, Kobe, Wade, Pierce, Harden....ect a small sample of guys I think can create their own shot.. LB is a spot up shooter or a pick and roll north/south driver.

Anyhoo. he really has missed over 1/5th of his career games. AND he does fold in the playoffs. Although I will admit I probably exaggerated in saying that he is overpaid.

I promise to leave him alone untill the offseason.

I completely agree with Josh about LB. Take away his speed (which his age will by 28-30) and you have about nothing left. It's his speed that gets him his shots. I'd rather trade him high (now) cause after this year I feel we will really see his decline start...sadly.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

Ehh, Nash raises everyones ceiling. But I dont like his contract one bit.

I like his contract if Nash raises his ceiling lol

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ehh, Nash raises everyones ceiling. But I dont like his contract one bit.

yeah, nash did wonders for jrich. yuck.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

yeah, nash did wonders for jrich. yuck.

True. Same with Shaq. I do think Iggy is a different player though, more of a Marion type and Marion excelled here with Nash. Well see though. At this moment he still has 5 years before he can be a Sun and Nash will be gone by then (unless traded here).