Miller once again does it again!

[Russ Smith]

At this point its a mere formality, supposedly he is a really good student who has all the credits he needs to graduate early. Why continue to take visits is my point. Should have took Duke visit and just went home and waited....no reason to look around if you know what you are going to do.

Interesting on UCLA boards we're not being told that at all, that it's very much possible Bagley won't be cleared to reclassify.

FWIW Zagsblog is reporting he's not making his official to UA and probably won't reschedule and it appears visits to UK and KU are in jeopardy too. They believe the reason is Arizona has no scholarships, apparently that relates to what I asked the other day about Talbott Denny and me thinking the rule said a kid can't take a medical redshirt and then go off scholarship, medical redshirts have to tie up a scholarship for 2 years., Someone on BRO posted that and apparently is quite sure that's the rule.

What we're being told is he moved up his UCLA visit and it's Duke, UCLA and USC. USC has no rides either but there are a couple of kids who are already potentially considering leaving so they don't really have to run anybody off outright, UA would have to and Bagley doesn't want to do that. SC and Duke are Nike and I believe Duke has a ride, UCLA's advantage is schedule, the classes start later at UCLA so that gives Bagley longer to go through the process, it's possible they wouldn't have a final decision on him in time to start classes on time at USC.

What is amazing to me in all this is how many times does this have to happen before the national media stops pretending Duke still has very high academic standards for basketball? They want Bagley because he's a great talent, and they're willing to admit him knowing full well he's not a Duke level student. UCLA fans openly admit this we're taking a silver bullet special admit if we get him, Duke fans are now out there spreading stories about what a good student he is, if he picks USC or UCLA, just watch how quickly that story flips to he's not a real student.

I still don't expect him to go to UCLA but we are in the same spot, we have the ride, school starts later, he's very good friends with Cody Riley, and he loves LA. USC has loves LA and likes staff, and Nike. I suspect in the end Nike is more important but I am still hoping he winds up picking UCLA.

Then we get to sweat for weeks if he'll actually qualify and go to college

 

[Lefty]

Even though he's in Tucson right now it's very highly unlikely he ends up somewhere other than Duke.

Jason Scheer said he cancelled his trip to Tucson, so how was he on campus yesterday? Scheer said Bagley will either go to Duke or USC. He also said Bol is a strong lean to the UofA. He said Kentucky has backed off a little. He thinks Bol will visit the campus after they get back from their overseas trip and a good chance he commits after that.

 

[overseascardfan]

Interesting on UCLA boards we're not being told that at all, that it's very much possible Bagley won't be cleared to reclassify.

FWIW Zagsblog is reporting he's not making his official to UA and probably won't reschedule and it appears visits to UK and KU are in jeopardy too. They believe the reason is Arizona has no scholarships, apparently that relates to what I asked the other day about Talbott Denny and me thinking the rule said a kid can't take a medical redshirt and then go off scholarship, medical redshirts have to tie up a scholarship for 2 years., Someone on BRO posted that and apparently is quite sure that's the rule.

What we're being told is he moved up his UCLA visit and it's Duke, UCLA and USC. USC has no rides either but there are a couple of kids who are already potentially considering leaving so they don't really have to run anybody off outright, UA would have to and Bagley doesn't want to do that. SC and Duke are Nike and I believe Duke has a ride, UCLA's advantage is schedule, the classes start later at UCLA so that gives Bagley longer to go through the process, it's possible they wouldn't have a final decision on him in time to start classes on time at USC.

What is amazing to me in all this is how many times does this have to happen before the national media stops pretending Duke still has very high academic standards for basketball? They want Bagley because he's a great talent, and they're willing to admit him knowing full well he's not a Duke level student. UCLA fans openly admit this we're taking a silver bullet special admit if we get him, Duke fans are now out there spreading stories about what a good student he is, if he picks USC or UCLA, just watch how quickly that story flips to he's not a real student.

I still don't expect him to go to UCLA but we are in the same spot, we have the ride, school starts later, he's very good friends with Cody Riley, and he loves LA. USC has loves LA and likes staff, and Nike. I suspect in the end Nike is more important but I am still hoping he winds up picking UCLA.

Then we get to sweat for weeks if he'll actually qualify and go to college

I thought I read somewhere that UA was out of schollies but they only have O'Neal & Williams committed as of now so I didn't believe it but all the more reason to quit playing games with Bagley if they don't have a chance. I hope he goes to USC, I know USC would be a handful in the PAC 12 but I would hate to see Krzyzewski get another title and he won't get USC a title even as good as he is. The thing I hate about him is that is is probably the biggest complainer / opponent of the one and done rule but he sure as hell will take them and make no bones about it...hypocrite in my eyes.

 

[GatorAZ]

Jason Scheer said he cancelled his trip to Tucson, so how was he on campus yesterday? Scheer said Bagley will either go to Duke or USC. He also said Bol is a strong lean to the UofA. He said Kentucky has backed off a little. He thinks Bol will visit the campus after they get back from their overseas trip and a good chance he commits after that.

I didn't realize it was cancelled and thought it was Aug 1-3. Obviously means he's not coming here unless it's 2018. Duke would be my hope cause you don't want him at one of the LA schools.

Arizona will have a monster class next year regardless of Bagley. I'm predicting O'Neal, Bol, Williams and Dotson plus one more.

 

[Russ Smith]

I thought I read somewhere that UA was out of schollies but they only have O'Neal & Williams committed as of now so I didn't believe it but all the more reason to quit playing games with Bagley if they don't have a chance. I hope he goes to USC, I know USC would be a handful in the PAC 12 but I would hate to see Krzyzewski get another title and he won't get USC a title even as good as he is. The thing I hate about him is that is is probably the biggest complainer / opponent of the one and done rule but he sure as hell will take them and make no bones about it...hypocrite in my eyes.

UA is out of scholarships for 2017, if he is successful in reclassing, then he would need a ride this year. Zagsblog is saying UA told him they don't have a ride for him this year, USChoops is saying that Bagley is informing schools if he reclasses he doesn't want them to run off a player to make room for him, USC fans say they have 2 kids who are either in danger academically(S Aaron) or considering leaving anyways(don't know who) so they believe Bagley is ok with that. If that part of the rumor is true hats off to the kid and the dad, most kids wouldn't give a rats behind if the school ran off someone to make room for them, in fact most would want that and be insulted if they won't.

We still hear Duke is the favorite, the push for USC was allegedly because Nike was pushing him to attend a Nike school and he wants to be in LA so they pushed for USC. Duke seems to have the momentum right now, there's some rumor out there that Jason Hart and Tony Bland had so many "accidental bumps" in the AAU session with Bagley that Duke and others complained to the NCAA about it, shades of Coach K when he found out Bazz was going to UCLA.

From what we are being told much of the rumors about him being a much better student than people thought are coming directly from Duke, they think they're getting him so now they want everyone to think he's a straight A student. From what I've heard his grades were not good until he got to Sierra Canyon and they made it clear to him and the dad he wasn't going to qualify for D1 if he didn't crack down.

He's a fabulous player, I don't think he's going to UCLA, I don't want him at USC that would suck, unless they still didn't get far and his dad blew up their chemistry. But watching him get steered to Duke would not sit well either.

so far the only thing we really know academically is he's got a qualifying test score, if he didn't, he wouldn't be taking official visits.

 

[overseascardfan]

UA is out of scholarships for 2017, if he is successful in reclassing, then he would need a ride this year. Zagsblog is saying UA told him they don't have a ride for him this year, USChoops is saying that Bagley is informing schools if he reclasses he doesn't want them to run off a player to make room for him, USC fans say they have 2 kids who are either in danger academically(S Aaron) or considering leaving anyways(don't know who) so they believe Bagley is ok with that. If that part of the rumor is true hats off to the kid and the dad, most kids wouldn't give a rats behind if the school ran off someone to make room for them, in fact most would want that and be insulted if they won't.

We still hear Duke is the favorite, the push for USC was allegedly because Nike was pushing him to attend a Nike school and he wants to be in LA so they pushed for USC. Duke seems to have the momentum right now, there's some rumor out there that Jason Hart and Tony Bland had so many "accidental bumps" in the AAU session with Bagley that Duke and others complained to the NCAA about it, shades of Coach K when he found out Bazz was going to UCLA.

From what we are being told much of the rumors about him being a much better student than people thought are coming directly from Duke, they think they're getting him so now they want everyone to think he's a straight A student. From what I've heard his grades were not good until he got to Sierra Canyon and they made it clear to him and the dad he wasn't going to qualify for D1 if he didn't crack down.

He's a fabulous player, I don't think he's going to UCLA, I don't want him at USC that would suck, unless they still didn't get far and his dad blew up their chemistry. But watching him get steered to Duke would not sit well either.

so far the only thing we really know academically is he's got a qualifying test score, if he didn't, he wouldn't be taking official visits.

Maybe he goes overseas, well at least here's to hope that he goes overseas.

 

[Russ Smith]

Maybe he goes overseas, well at least here's to hope that he goes overseas.

He's on his official visit to UCLA now but I don't think anybody is overly optimistic he's going to commit to UCLA. There's talk that UCLA is in his final 3 which is now Duke, USC and UCLA presumably in that order. Arizona we're being told realized he wasn't coming and dropped out because they didn't want to tick off any of their current players by trying to maneuver a possible scholarship for a kid they weren't confident was picking them.

I had someone else off a UCLA list tell me he hears Kansas has backed off some because they don't believe Bagley really wants to go to college. UK is still interested but he doesn't appear to want to play there.

I really think he's going to commit to Duke but might never player there or anywhere else.

 

[overseascardfan]

He's on his official visit to UCLA now but I don't think anybody is overly optimistic he's going to commit to UCLA. There's talk that UCLA is in his final 3 which is now Duke, USC and UCLA presumably in that order. Arizona we're being told realized he wasn't coming and dropped out because they didn't want to tick off any of their current players by trying to maneuver a possible scholarship for a kid they weren't confident was picking them.

I had someone else off a UCLA list tell me he hears Kansas has backed off some because they don't believe Bagley really wants to go to college. UK is still interested but he doesn't appear to want to play there.

I really think he's going to commit to Duke but might never player there or anywhere else.

If its all about the $$$, and it sounds like it is to the dad, I could see some overseas team making a substantial offer to this kid. He might as well start getting paid (if he hasn't already..wink wink).

 

[GatorAZ]

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Guessing Bol cause they're all buds. Damn late night unclear twitter teasing.

 

[TJ]

Quinerly decides tonight. Sounds like Arizona is the choice.


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[GatorAZ]

Quinerly decides tonight. Sounds like Arizona is the choice.


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Wow. Might go from not being able to land PG to hoarding them.

@RugbyMuffin

 

[TJ]

Wow. Might go from not being able to land PG to hoarding them.

@RugbyMuffin

indeed

@RugbyMuffin needs to be our Scout insider.

 

[Russ Smith]

I guess the reason people are saying arizona is because Naz Reid doesn't have Nova on his list and is still saying it's possible he and Quinerly are a package deal?

Huge blow to UCLA if Miller winds up getting the package deal Alford was hoping Under Armour would deliver to him. Been saying it on BRO for months the timing of the change to Under Armour was a huge challenge for alford, it appears he decided to go all in on Under Armour prospects and it hurt him with some local ones, and if he's not getting the Under Armour kids either massive fail.

 

[TJ]

Couldn't have done it without you, @RugbyMuffin [emoji106]


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[Russ Smith]

One Nova guy on twitter is saying it's Villanova but it seems like most think it's Arizona.

 

[TJ]

One Nova guy on twitter is saying it's Villanova but it seems like most think it's Arizona.

Huh? He committed to Zona like 15 min aho


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[Russ Smith]

I can't see it here in the Philippines but being reported he picked UA. Congrats, and I assume this now makes UA a favorite for Reid which is curious with O'Neal committed and Bol likely.

 

[Russ Smith]

Huh? He committed to Zona like 15 min aho


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Sorry I'm in the Philippines I didn't see the live announcement it's 10:04am on Wed here.

Very slow wifi too everything I see is delayed

 

[GatorAZ]

I can't see it here in the Philippines but being reported he picked UA. Congrats, and I assume this now makes UA a favorite for Reid which is curious with O'Neal committed and Bol likely.

Liddell is more realistic than Reid.

Williams
Quinerly
Liddell
O'Neal
Bol

That's about as complete a class as you could hope for. Alford might be scrambling a bit but UCLA will always a few top guys. Hands sticking around for two years would be big.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Wow. Might go from not being able to land PG to hoarding them.

@RugbyMuffin

Yup

Pretty Cool to hear the news tonight with the rest of you.

 

[GatorAZ]

Yup

Pretty Cool to hear the news tonight with the rest of you.

Huge pickup. PG is the one position that Miller has struggled to land. I'm sure Lorenzo Romar who just had the #1 pick helped a ton in this recruitment.

Miller continuing to land players from the Northeast is a good sign.

 

[Russ Smith]

Liddell is more realistic than Reid.

Williams
Quinerly
Liddell
O'Neal
Bol

That's about as complete a class as you could hope for. Alford might be scrambling a bit but UCLA will always a few top guys. Hands sticking around for two years would be big.

Yeah that's what I meant by Curious it sounds to me like Reid wants the package deal more than Quinerly does. Unless Arizona just doesn't think Bol is going to qualify and took Reid, it would be unlikely they'd take him over Bol.

UCLA's best chance would involve Tre Jones being honest when he says he's trying to get out from under the shadow of Tyus. There's a long history there, Tyus was actually named by the father after Tyus Edney, and there's apparently several people in the Tre Jones camp who want him in LA for college but it's still believed Duke and Minnesota are ahead of UCLA so it's a longshot.

Jones is the kid UCLA wants in the class but Quinerly was the kid we thought we had the best chance with so major blow for Alford unless he somehow gets Jones.

 

[Lefty]

This is a huge pickup. I am expecting Bol to commit after his visit. Great day for UofA basketball.

 

[Russ Smith]

You guys should see the pissing and moaning on BRO and elsewhere about Quinerly. Several people suggesting Under Armour should have threatened to pull his invite to the Curry camp when he said he was going to announce since it was obvious it was either Arizona or Nova and both were Nike schools. Someone blasting Jay Bilas, new with Under Armour saying it was likely his idea to invite several non Under Armour affiliated kids to the camp "insulting the Under Armour brand."

I fully get that shoe companies have major influence, Bagley for example, but these are still teenagers, I'm all for anything that results in events having more good players there to compete against each other. and if you're trying to establish the Under Armour name in grassroots basketball and use Steph Curry to push it, what better way to do it than get non UA kids to the Curry camp and expose them to your brand?

I can't imagine telling a 17 year old kid you can't compete at the Steph Curry camp if you're going to announce for a Nike school.

 

[overseascardfan]

You guys should see the pissing and moaning on BRO and elsewhere about Quinerly. Several people suggesting Under Armour should have threatened to pull his invite to the Curry camp when he said he was going to announce since it was obvious it was either Arizona or Nova and both were Nike schools. Someone blasting Jay Bilas, new with Under Armour saying it was likely his idea to invite several non Under Armour affiliated kids to the camp "insulting the Under Armour brand."

I fully get that shoe companies have major influence, Bagley for example, but these are still teenagers, I'm all for anything that results in events having more good players there to compete against each other. and if you're trying to establish the Under Armour name in grassroots basketball and use Steph Curry to push it, what better way to do it than get non UA kids to the Curry camp and expose them to your brand?

I can't imagine telling a 17 year old kid you can't compete at the Steph Curry camp if you're going to announce for a Nike school.

And people wonder why kids don't take their 1 year of college seriously. They are exposed to the business side of basketball at a very early age.