Mizzou vs Iowa "Blaine Gabbert Audition"

[Seandonic]

As of right now there are four QB's who are legitimate first round talent's.
Luck, Mallett, Gabbert (if he declares), and Newton. The Cardinals should take one of them with their first pick.

It does not matter if that guy needs time to develop. He'll be able to sit behind a FA vet and Skelton if need be.

If Skelton develops into THE guy then you figure out what to do with who you don't need a couple years later and move on. At least you've done everything to solidify the most important position in football.

As of right now I believe Luck will be gone when the Cards pick (likely 5th) and Gabbert could very well be the selection. Sounds good to me. How about you Cards?

 

[Zeno]

I am not impressed. He operates exclusively from the shotgun, his movement in the pocket leaves a lot to be desired--I watched him move laterally along the line rather than step in to the pocket and he has thrown a lot of passes that he won't get away with in the NFL. He is a project...he seems to have the size and measurables you want but is he a smart QB one who will put the work in to become a good pro?

 

[Heucrazy]

No thanks, I'd rather have Skelton.

 

[WarnerHOF]

I am not impressed. He operates exclusively from the shotgun, his movement in the pocket leaves a lot to be desired--I watched him move laterally along the line rather than step in to the pocket and he has thrown a lot of passes that he won't get away with in the NFL. He is a project...he seems to have the size and measurables you want but is he a smart QB one who will put the work in to become a good pro?

This. He's John Skelton with no poise in the pocket and a terrible decision maker. People are crazy if they think he's going any higher than the 4th round let alone the first or declaring after this game.

 

[conraddobler]

He threw one bad pass the entire game and it cost them the game, he's the perfect Cardinal QB.

 

[conraddobler]

This. He's John Skelton with no poise in the pocket and a terrible decision maker. People are crazy if they think he's going any higher than the 4th round let alone the first or declaring after this game.

With all due respect I'd bet you a lot of money that he goes in the first round.

 

[Seandonic]

He threw one bad pass the entire game and it cost them the game, he's the perfect Cardinal QB.

Ouch...but funny.

 

[Rats]

This. He's John Skelton with no poise in the pocket and a terrible decision maker. People are crazy if they think he's going any higher than the 4th round let alone the first or declaring after this game.

If he declares, wait until the Combine results. His will sizzle. He is one of the best athletes, if not the best athlete on the Mizzou squad. I could see him at the top of the draft board come draft day. However I would like him to come back and try and win a title at Mizzou.

 

[Evil Ash]

With all due respect I'd bet you a lot of money that he goes in the first round.

He probably will but that doesn't necessarily mean he should.

 

[conraddobler]

He probably will but that doesn't necessarily mean he should.

That wasn't the question, it's where he'd go.

So I don't really know what your point is.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think Gabbert is terrible as an NFL prospect honestly. Terrible. I only watched the second half, but I only saw one or two passes thrown further than 6-10 yards. The one or two "long" throws hung up a bit and need a little bit more arm behind them.

He plays almost entirely out of the shotgun in spread formations, how does he play under center?

His decisionmaking in crunch time? Awful.

Granted, this is the only game I've watched him play, but he was not impressive whatsoever.

Now Stanzi was way worse. That dude has a terrible arm, hangs up the ball constantly and is small.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I am completely impressed with Christian Ponder and Andrew Luck. We need to get one of those two in addition to a cheap veteran addition. keep Skelton and Hall and make a great competition. Let the best guy win the position.

Two of the better QB prospects in a while (Ponder and Luck).

I'd say go with Clayborn and than pick Ponder in round 2. Or go with Luck round 1 and pick Cameron Jordan round 2.

These are the players i'm completely impressed with after watching college tapes so far with much more to go, i plan to watch some tape on most prospects (and in that order):

1) Cameron Jordan DT/DE
As polished as Alualu was last year. IQ, very hard to block one on one, shows agilty and explosiveness to also be a factor as passrusher, good in denying jump throughs, fantastic technique.

2) Christian Ponder QB
Best ability to progress through targets and manipulate zones with his head, accurate, smart,has good enough arm to play at next level. Mobile. Physically ready as well. Impressive touch. Makes the occasional mistake, so he is not completely consistent. Awsome dropback from under center and great hitch step to step up into the pocket. Works well under pressure.

3) Andrew Luck QB
Smartest QB this year and very polished player that makes almost no mistakes. Physically ready and very mobile. Great under pressure. Very accurate, sometimes can make inaccurate throws as well, but mostly consistent.

4) Adrian Clayborn DT/DE
Similar skills as Jordan, but not nearly as explosive and with that agility. But technically he is a NFL lineman right now.

5) Brandon Harris, CB
Man to man corner, good ballskills, is shutting down that side completely.

6) Austin Pettis, WR
Very polished and tough reciever that knows how to get YACs, great hands.

7) Quinn, DE
Awsome passrusher

8) Jimmy Smith, CB
Man to man corner, can press and has great ballskills and adjustment

9) Kerrigan, DE
Very polished end. Uses his hands text book style. Has no agility at all and no explosiveness, but everything else is perfect and what you ask for. Will make a good end or OLB in NFL i believe. Smart polished player that doesn't take plays off. Good motor.

And you don't even mention Da'quan Bowers who is a better player than any player you've mentioned on this list.

 

[Rats]

I think Gabbert is terrible as an NFL prospect honestly. Terrible. I only time? Awful.

Granted, this is the only game I've watched him play, but he was not impressive whatsoever.

Now Stanzi was way worse. That dude has a terrible arm, hangs up the ball constantly and is small.

His first half was much better and 41 for 57 for a 7.6 avg is pretty good in any league. He had some amazing tosses in the first half. I agree with Conrad. He had one bad throw and it cost them the game. No one should take you seriously on this subject if you only watched half a game that Gabbert played all season. I would prefer you not comment because you really have no idea what your talking about.

 

[Dback Jon]

As of right now I believe Luck will be gone when the Cards pick (likely 5th) and Gabbert could very well be the selection. Sounds good to me. How about you Cards?

Um - no.

It would be akin to Kelly Stoufer.

 

[Evil Ash]

His first half was much better and 41 for 57 for a 7.6 avg is pretty good in any league. He had some amazing tosses in the first half. I agree with Conrad. He had one bad throw and it cost them the game. No one should take you seriously on this subject if you only watched half a game that Gabbert played all season. I would prefer you not comment because you really have no idea what your talking about.

I watched the entire game.

He's a spread QB that dinks and dunks the entire game. That won't work in the NFL. He appears to be overrated based on his measurables. In all honesty I wasn't impressed at all

 

[Krangodnzr]

His first half was much better and 41 for 57 for a 7.6 avg is pretty good in any league. He had some amazing tosses in the first half. I agree with Conrad. He had one bad throw and it cost them the game. No one should take you seriously on this subject if you only watched half a game that Gabbert played all season. I would prefer you not comment because you really have no idea what your talking about.

Then put me on ignore. I think so little of you that I literally never read your posts. The only reason I saw this one is because you quoted me.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I watched the entire game.

He's a spread QB that dinks and dunks the entire game. That won't work in the NFL. He appears to be overrated based on his measurables. In all honesty I wasn't impressed at all

+1

Like I admitted I only watched the second half, but I didn't see a single "NFL throw" from either QB.

Gabbert in his defense didn't attempt one. Stanzi didn't make one.

 

[Rats]

I watched the entire game.

He's a spread QB that dinks and dunks the entire game. That won't work in the NFL. He appears to be overrated based on his measurables. In all honesty I wasn't impressed at all

Maybe you better go back and look at the drive charts. On the first drive of the game alone he had 3 pass completions of 12 yards 2 for 9 yards and one of 24. All in one drive. Hardly dink and dunk and his passes are ropes. People see what they want to I guess. I figure you guys must know more than the guys who do it for a living. They seem to think he is going to be a pretty good pro

 

[Rats]

Then put me on ignore. I think so little of you that I literally never read your posts. The only reason I saw this one is because you quoted me.

Right back at ya

 

[Evil Ash]

Maybe you better go back and look at the drive charts. On the first drive of the game alone he had 3 pass completions of 12 yards 2 for 9 yards and one of 24. All in one drive. Hardly dink and dunk and his passes are ropes. People see what the want to I guess. I figure you guys must know more than the guys who do it for a living. They seem to think he is going to be a pretty good pro

Having a few throws over 10 yards in spread offense is not a defense for the guy being overrated. In the spread offense you should have SEVERAL passes over the 15 yard mark because of how spread out the defense is.

Spread QBs are massively overrated. QBs have to make quick decisions in the NFL without the luxury of being in the shotgun the entire game.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Having a few throws over 10 yards in spread offense is not a defense for the guy being overrated. In the spread offense you should have SEVERAL passes over the 15 yard mark because of how spread out the defense is.

Spread QBs are massively overrated. QBs have to make quick decisions in the NFL without the luxury of being in the shotgun the entire game.

+1

And few spread offense QBs are actually successful in the NFL.

 

[Rats]

Again, I am sure you guys know more than guys who do it for a living, who say he is top 3 if he comes out. He had passes of 24 yards, 32 yards, 21, 26, and 22 in the first 2 quarters to go with 3 of 12 or more .That was the first half alone. Boy that does say dink and dunk. Again I refuse to take this kind of banter seriously. I have seen the majority of Gabberts games and he is the real deal and has things you can't teach in a Qb. You watch one half or one game and make a blanket judgement. Blind leading the blind I say.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

What the he'll was that throw that lost the game for the team? He looked above average, but nit ready to start day one IMO.

 

[Southpaw]

I think Gabbert is terrible as an NFL prospect honestly. Terrible. I only watched the second half, but I only saw one or two passes thrown further than 6-10 yards. The one or two "long" throws hung up a bit and need a little bit more arm behind them.

He plays almost entirely out of the shotgun in spread formations, how does he play under center?

His decisionmaking in crunch time? Awful.

Granted, this is the only game I've watched him play, but he was not impressive whatsoever.

Now Stanzi was way worse. That dude has a terrible arm, hangs up the ball constantly and is small.

Couldn't have said it better or agree more on Gabbert. Dink and dunk. No pocket presence, maybe because there wasn't one. Terrible decisions. Able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He looked very weak armed. Perfect example of a system QB without translatable NFL skillset. I just felt like he was stumbling around out there and his 2 receivers were bailing him out with great catches on poorly thrown balls.

If Gabbert was bad, Stanzi was brutal.

 

[Southpaw]

he is really bad from what i have seen, horrible stuff on his tapes that i have seen so far.

Andrew Luck is very very very good and i like Christian Ponder as NFL QB.

If Ponder gets his throwing shoulder healed, he could be a huge bargain in this draft. Has all of the tangibles and intangibles ( cliche warning ). For his sake, he will be ready for the combine or FSU's Pro Day.