MJ dropping names of who we will pursue in FA

Lomax to Green 84

Hall of Famer
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
1,419
Reaction score
631
Location
Illinois
Sean Weatherspoon was on the Cards radar back in 2010. There were alot of reports that he was the target for the Cards if he fell. Atlanta ended up taking him 4-5 picks before we selected.

He has an injury history, but that guy paired with Daryl Washington would be scary. Weatherspoon is just as fast as Washington and probably brings more thump when he tackles. He would be a terrific pick up for the Cards!!
 

sundevil04

AZ Cardinals Mortgage Guy
Joined
Dec 5, 2005
Posts
1,884
Reaction score
11
Location
Scottsdale, AZ
Love Witherspoon and Wisnewinski. If Witherspoon can stay healthy he's the speed we were looking for
 

DVontel

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jan 28, 2015
Posts
13,057
Reaction score
23,255
I would love Weatherspoon but the dude couldn't stay healthy for the past 2 seasons. Idk man.
 

az jam

ASFN Icon
Joined
Mar 6, 2004
Posts
12,989
Reaction score
5,215
Location
Scottsdale, AZ
4 days!!!

Actually you can start talking to the potential free agents on Saturday at 1PM Phoenix time. Contract can't be singed until tuesday March 10.

Bottom line, if players don't re-sign with their teams today or Saturday morning, the flood gates will be open.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,419
Reaction score
29,819
Location
Gilbert, AZ
I would love Weatherspoon but the dude couldn't stay healthy for the past 2 seasons. Idk man.

I think there's a fair deal to make. I think that Weatherspoon is worth the risk. We missed out on prime years from Kyle Vanden Bosch because we chickened out on a guy with two knee surgeries (a decision that I agreed with at the time, BTW).

That said, I'd rather spend $3.5M this year on a chance that Weatherspoon is healthy and excellent than Dan Williams--and I love Dan Williams.
 

juza76

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 5, 2009
Posts
13,798
Reaction score
9,618
Location
milan-italy
I think there's a fair deal to make. I think that Weatherspoon is worth the risk. We missed out on prime years from Kyle Vanden Bosch because we chickened out on a guy with two knee surgeries (a decision that I agreed with at the time, BTW).

That said, I'd rather spend $3.5M this year on a chance that Weatherspoon is healthy and excellent than Dan Williams--and I love Dan Williams.

but about pass rusher free agents,who fit better in our defense?who would u like to sign?
 

D-Dogg

A Whole New World
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2003
Posts
44,945
Reaction score
948
Location
In The End Zone
From Rotoworld.com

The Raiders plan to let free agent C Stefen Wisniewski test the open market.

Wisniewski isn't expected to be re-signed after the Raiders failed to get an extension done during the season. He's been a full-time starter since entering the league in 2011 -- missing only three games over the last four seasons. 25-year-old Wisniewski should draw interest from multiple teams. He's seeking a contract in the range of $3 million annually.

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,419
Reaction score
29,819
Location
Gilbert, AZ
but about pass rushers free agents,who fit better in our defense?who would u like to sign?

I'm not over the moon for any of the guys available. I think that if a guy is available in free agency at that position, he probably has some warts. I'd prefer to look at the draft and add a second-tier player.

But I trust the front office to make a smart decision.
 

Dayman

ASFN Addict
Joined
Dec 27, 2008
Posts
6,121
Reaction score
7,974
Location
Portland, Oregon
I fully expect the Cards to sign Wisniewski and Brooks Reed. Beyond those two, I think our free agent class will be a collection of older vets and younger dudes who are mostly under the radar.

As for the FAs Jurecki mentioned, my preferences are

1. Wisniewski
2. Weatherspoon
3. Irving
4. Shipley

For me, there's a pretty big gap between Spoon and Irving. I don't want to see Shipley here at all, so he's a very distant fourth.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,419
Reaction score
29,819
Location
Gilbert, AZ
I fully expect the Cards to sign Wisniewski and Brooks Reed. Beyond those two, I think our free agent class will be a collection of older vets and younger dudes who are mostly under the radar.

As for the FAs Jurecki mentioned, my preferences are

1. Wisniewski
2. Weatherspoon
3. Irving
4. Shipley

For me, there's a pretty big gap between Spoon and Irving. I don't want to see Shipley here at all, so he's a very distant fourth.

Brooks Reed is no better than Sam Acho. Rather keep the home-grown kid and the potential for a compensatory pick.

Brooks Reed hasn't had more than 3 sacks in the last three seasons playing on a defense where J.J. Watt gets nearly all the opposing offensive line's attention.
 

Arizona's Finest

Your My Favorite Mistake
Joined
Jun 11, 2005
Posts
9,709
Reaction score
1
I think they go bigger then Wisnewski and Reed. All things point to that.

Well see if Kiem can get his man (men). I think they may go after Houston tbh.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,419
Reaction score
29,819
Location
Gilbert, AZ
I think they go bigger then Wisnewski and Reed. All things point to that.

Well see if Kiem can get his man (men). I think they may go after Houston tbh.

I have little doubt that they can structure a deal that KC can't match (I think they might be over the cap or right at it already). But Keim loves his draft picks. If we're mortgaging the future for right now, giving up 2 first rounders to pay a guy at the absolute peak of his value is a way to dismantle the next decade to make one, maybe two, runs at a championship.
 

Dayman

ASFN Addict
Joined
Dec 27, 2008
Posts
6,121
Reaction score
7,974
Location
Portland, Oregon
Brooks Reed is no better than Sam Acho. Rather keep the home-grown kid and the potential for a compensatory pick.

Brooks Reed hasn't had more than 3 sacks in the last three seasons playing on a defense where J.J. Watt gets nearly all the opposing offensive line's attention.

I'm not advocating for Brooks Reed, although I do think he could fare better at ILB than he did at OLB. I just think he'll be a target. I'm also basing this belief on nothing but a hunch, so I could be way off.
 

MadCardDisease

Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
20,813
Reaction score
14,772
Location
Chandler, Az
I'm not over the moon for any of the guys available. I think that if a guy is available in free agency at that position, he probably has some warts. I'd prefer to look at the draft and add a second-tier player.

Totatlly agree with you there. Greg Hardy is probably the only proven elite FA pass rusher out there right now, but I don't the the Cards touch him with a 10 foot pole due to his off the field issues. Everyone else has major warts as you mention.

Altough the Cardinals haven't been able to draft an elite pass rusher in over a decade. Hopefully they can find one this year.
 

Dan H

ASFN Addict
Banned from P+R
Joined
Dec 1, 2002
Posts
6,204
Reaction score
5,204
Location
Circle City, IN
I have little doubt that they can structure a deal that KC can't match (I think they might be over the cap or right at it already). But Keim loves his draft picks. If we're mortgaging the future for right now, giving up 2 first rounders to pay a guy at the absolute peak of his value is a way to dismantle the next decade to make one, maybe two, runs at a championship.

Meh. I'd trade two late first rounders for 5-6 years of 10+ sack production in a heartbeat.
 

Arizona's Finest

Your My Favorite Mistake
Joined
Jun 11, 2005
Posts
9,709
Reaction score
1
I have little doubt that they can structure a deal that KC can't match (I think they might be over the cap or right at it already). But Keim loves his draft picks. If we're mortgaging the future for right now, giving up 2 first rounders to pay a guy at the absolute peak of his value is a way to dismantle the next decade to make one, maybe two, runs at a championship.

I dont disagree. But you would easily give up 2 (late) 1st round picks to get a 26 year old pass rusher who is proven like that. They dont hit the market often. Would be a huge gamble of course and I go bakc and forth if thats the right thing to do.

Well see. Like I said I think they have something up their sleeve. Just not sure yet what.
 

kerouac9

Klowned by Keim
Joined
Feb 14, 2003
Posts
38,419
Reaction score
29,819
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Meh. I'd trade two late first rounders for 5-6 years of 10+ sack production in a heartbeat.

I dont disagree. But you would easily give up 2 (late) 1st round picks to get a 26 year old pass rusher who is proven like that. They dont hit the market often. Would be a huge gamble of course and I go bakc and forth if thats the right thing to do.

Well see. Like I said I think they have something up their sleeve. Just not sure yet what.

It's definitely a gamble. It's an interesting experiment. I was looking at future contracts and basically the only players we have signed for 2017 are Palmer, Peterson, Campbell, Veldheer and the 2015 draft class. Losing a first-round pick is a possible future cornerstone piece for ideally 5-10 years. Keim also highly values his ability to compound the value of draft picks.

I can't see him doing it, but we'll see.
 
Top