Most Despised Decision in Suns History?

[mojorizen7]

Not assigning a babysitter to Richard Dumas to be with him every waking second.

+1

 

[CaptainInsano]

Letting Tim Thomas go and instead spending most of the money on Marcus Banks.

 

[devilalum]

Not assigning a babysitter to Richard Dumas to be with him every waking second.

At least until they traded him for Rodman.

 

[Errntknght]

When they happened:

1) Signing Scott Skiles to be the head coach. Wrong philosophy for the team and the wrong temperament to be a coach.

2) Annointing Paul Weshphal to be Cotton's successor. Did both him and the team a disfavor. Make him make his way as an assistant coach for a few years and he might have become quite a good coach.

I came to dislike Frank Johnson as coach, more than any other, for his total incompetence but at the time he took over I actually had some hope for him - and he was displacing Skiles.

 

[SunsTzu]

Not getting the atl pick cost us kevin garnett. We get that pick, we could have easily packaged it with marion to get garnett (marion almost got us garnett anyway, but he didn't want to go to boston in a 3-way) to add to amare/nash.

That pick cost us a championship.

Don't see how involving the pick would have changed anything. Suns had a deal in place to get KG but Marion refused to sign an extension in Boston.

 

[Trifecta]

My most despised decision at the moment wasn't a single transaction - but rather the decision not to bother bringing in a proper PF to replace Amare, and instead bring in more wings than a bucket of KFC. It has led us to the sh*tty position we are currently in.

 

[FArting]

Letting Joe Johnson go.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Trading Kidd for Marbury. I hated it so much I wrote the Suns brass a letter. We were cearly downgrading, and we got nothing else in return.

 

[Griffin]

Trading Kidd for Marbury. I hated it so much I wrote the Suns brass a letter. We were cearly downgrading, and we got nothing else in return.

That would have been my choice as well. And in retrospect, that trade turned out as bad as it initially seemed.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yeah, I think Kidd coming to Phoenix and Kidd leaving Phoenix are good nominees for best decision and worst decision. I loved watching him play and the whole Joumana thing was clearly overblown, even at the time.

Steve

 

[TucsonDevil]

Got a few.
Past Suns
1. Trading Nance for some rookie PG named Kevin Johnson and others. I was clearly wrong on this one... something had to be done at the time and Larry was the only chip we had left to gamble.
2. Someone already mentioned this - trading Marjele for Hot Rod. Again, something had to be done, but it didn't work out.
3. Trading for Rick Robey... holy crap, that was just awful.

Current Suns
1. Trading crazy eyes and picks in order to wipe the brow of the finacially strapped owner
2. Keeping Mike D'Antoni two seasons too long, and actually have him act as GM for a time.
3. The revolving door of the GMs office.
4. Trading Nash for future picks that have 85% chance of being late teen or early twenty 1st round draft picks.... I'm just preparing myself for this one.

 

[S_Nash]

The decision to suspend Amare and Boris for game 5 of the 2007 Western Semi's. Granted it wasn't a Phoenix decision, but it ranks up there as one of the worst decisions to go against Phoenix in franchise history.

Not to mention that game 5 itself is still one of the most gut wrenching losses I've ever seen. That and the following years game 1 against the Spurs aswell.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The decision to suspend Amare and Boris for game 5 of the 2007 Western Semi's. Granted it wasn't a Phoenix decision, but it ranks up there as one of the worst decisions to go against Phoenix in franchise history.

Not to mention that game 5 itself is still one of the most gut wrenching losses I've ever seen. That and the following years game 1 against the Spurs aswell.

One of the worst, must punitive, punish the victim/reward the criminal, decisions in the history of basketball.

 

[AzStevenCal]

One of the worst, must punitive, punish the victim/reward the criminal, decisions in the history of basketball.

The rules are such that they really needed to be punished. However, how hard would it have been for the commissioner to give them a delayed suspension (first game against anyone other than the Spurs)? He could have just said, yes, they violated an important rule but I refuse to reward someone for instigating the very thing this rule is put in place to stop. Common sense did not enter into this picture.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

The rules are such that they really needed to be punished. However, how hard would it have been for the commissioner to give them a delayed suspension (first game against anyone other than the Spurs)? He could have just said, yes, they violated an important rule but I refuse to reward someone for instigating the very thing this rule is put in place to stop. Common sense did not enter into this picture.

Steve

He simply could have said that there was no altercation. There was an initial foul and several players posturing and in each others faces, but there were no subsequent punches thrown etc.

There seemed to be no desire for common sense to enter the picture.

 

[Covert Rain]

Not assigning a babysitter to Richard Dumas to be with him every waking second.

What incredible waste of talent. IMO, he could have had a long career as a star in the NBA if it wasn't for his Nose Candy habit. Not to mention we could have had Rodman as a result of that failed trade.

He was never the same after his stint in rehab. When he came back he lacked confidence and seemed like mentally he was never the same.

 

[AzStevenCal]

He simply could have said that there was no altercation. There was an initial foul and several players posturing and in each others faces, but there were no subsequent punches thrown etc.

There seemed to be no desire for common sense to enter the picture.

I know, but he had to acknowledge that they left the bench area and ran into what could have very likely become a brawl. Just leaving it at "there was no altercation" would have caused a lot of problems to the teams that were similarly punished for a similar level of transgression. However, at some point, reason should have entered the picture.

I'll go to my grave believing that Pop somehow orchestrated the Horry play. No proof, just an opinion fueled mostly by hatred. And if you can't let blind hatred rule you, then what good is living.

Steve

 

[slinslin]

Ah Slin, only you could turn the most entertaining and arguably most successful Suns stretch into a negative. While I wasn't sure about signing Nash initially, it's hard to argue against two MVP seasons, especially considering he's never commanded a max salary.

Well I know it is controversial but if we didn't sign Nash:

1. We would have had more than enough money to re-sign Joe Johnson anyway.
2. We would have had enough money to keep the #7 pick (Iguodala)
3. We could have signed a FA Center instead of Q or traded Marion for a role player Center.
4. We could have been bad for another season which would have allowed us to draft Chris Paul or Deron Williams at #3 or #4 or if we were still #7 move up 3 spots or we could have won the lottery and choose between Bogut and Paul.

Of course Paul and Williams had similiar success to Nash with their teams over the years with argueably much less talent so I would say it is safe to say the Suns would have been better contenders in the last 4 years than what they were with Nash.

 

[Bufalay]

Well I know it is controversial but if we didn't sign Nash:

1. We would have had more than enough money to re-sign Joe Johnson anyway.
2. We would have had enough money to keep the #7 pick (Iguodala)
3. We could have signed a FA Center instead of Q or traded Marion for a role player Center.
4. We could have been bad for another season which would have allowed us to draft Chris Paul or Deron Williams at #3 or #4 or if we were still #7 move up 3 spots or we could have won the lottery and choose between Bogut and Paul.

Of course Paul and Williams had similiar success to Nash with their teams over the years with argueably much less talent so I would say it is safe to say the Suns would have been better contenders in the last 4 years than what they were with Nash.

Drafting Amare was a huge mistake. If they would've just sucked for another year, they could've drafted Lebron. Come to think of it, letting Lebron go to Miami gets my vote.

 

[elindholm]

Just leaving it at "there was no altercation" would have caused a lot of problems to the teams that were similarly punished for a similar level of transgression.

All zero of them?

 

[Folster]

All zero of them?

The Heat and Knicks would disagree.

 

[chickenhead]

The rules are such that they really needed to be punished. However, how hard would it have been for the commissioner to give them a delayed suspension (first game against anyone other than the Spurs)? He could have just said, yes, they violated an important rule but I refuse to reward someone for instigating the very thing this rule is put in place to stop. Common sense did not enter into this picture.

Steve

The problem for me has always been that the next year Garnett pushed a ref who was trying to restrain him in an altercation during the series against Atlanta. No ejection. No suspension. The Hawks took the Celtics to 7, and easily could have derailed the wet dream matchup between the Big 3 in Boston and the Lakers.

Do I think Garnett should have been suspended? I can't answer that without referencing what happened to the Suns--and what happened to the Suns has to the precedent, otherwise it just looks bogus.

 

[Chaplin]

I know, but he had to acknowledge that they left the bench area and ran into what could have very likely become a brawl. Just leaving it at "there was no altercation" would have caused a lot of problems to the teams that were similarly punished for a similar level of transgression. However, at some point, reason should have entered the picture.

I'll go to my grave believing that Pop somehow orchestrated the Horry play. No proof, just an opinion fueled mostly by hatred. And if you can't let blind hatred rule you, then what good is living.

Steve

People forget that Duncan left the bench area earlier in the game and nothing happened.

In hindsight, one of the worst decisions this franchise ever made was Jerry deciding to sell it.

 

[AzStevenCal]

People forget that Duncan left the bench area earlier in the game and nothing happened.

In hindsight, one of the worst decisions this franchise ever made was Jerry deciding to sell it.

I don't think any of us forget that. It was brought up and discussed quite a bit on this board. However, if you view the two incidents (actually, the 3 because Duncan did something similar twice during that series) ours was a much more serious transgression. It had to be dealt with IMO. It should not, however, have been allowed to benefit the Spurs.

They could have delayed the suspension till the next season or at a minimum, to the next game we played that did not include the Spurs. It would have sent a message to the rest of the league that you can't engineer something like that and profit from it while still doling out reasonable punishment.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

The problem for me has always been that the next year Garnett pushed a ref who was trying to restrain him in an altercation during the series against Atlanta. No ejection. No suspension. The Hawks took the Celtics to 7, and easily could have derailed the wet dream matchup between the Big 3 in Boston and the Lakers.

Do I think Garnett should have been suspended? I can't answer that without referencing what happened to the Suns--and what happened to the Suns has to the precedent, otherwise it just looks bogus.

I agree, it was inconsistent allowing Garnett to walk away without punishment. I suspect that there might have been a backlash amongst the owners for the way the league handled our situation. OTOH, I'm just as comfortable believing the league continued their trend of protecting the Celtics and Lakers of the NBA world.

Steve