Moves I Would Make

[Mitch]

1. QB: I have not given up on Kevin Kolb---but I would have John Skelton ready to go, if Kolb looks too skittish in the games as he has in recent weeks. With Skelton, I know he won't play afraid and that he will hang tough in the pocket---and that could make a huge difference right there. This is a team that needs to get TOUGH---it's not a team, as we have seen, that can win running scared.

In order to increase Kolb's comfort level, I would ask him what his 4 most favorite passing plays were when he was playing for the Eagles. I would adapt my system to make Kolb more comfortable---and more confident.

2. OL: I like the tandem of Levi Brown and D'Anthony Batiste on the left side---only flip-flopped, with Batiste at LT and Brown at LG. On the other side, I want to play our toughest o-lineman, Deuce Lutui at RG where he belongs, and I would like to see what Daryn Colledge could do at RT. If Colledge isn't an upgrade over Bridges and Keith, I would stick with Bridges. I would move Keith back to guard.

3. Passing offense: I would like to involve TE Rob Housler more the way the team did yesterday. He is going to make the safeties honest---which means we have to start taking some shots downfield. I wonder too if Stephen Williams or Demarco Sampson can be vertical threat. We have to start attacking defenses with the focus on scoring TDs. Whiz's "dink and dunk" isn't working---it's too cluttered and predictable.

4. 4 man defensive line: when we go 4 up front in passing situations I would like to get Ronald Talley on the field and line up with Dockett, Carter, Talley and Campbell. When fresh add Joey Porter in and take one out.

5. I would start Stewart Bradley at SOLB and O'Brien Schofield at WOLB. I think Bradley's well suited to play SOLB---and I am anxious to see how well he can rush the edge from the OLB position. By starting Schofield, we can keep Porter fresh and use him in passing situations.

6. I would use Reggie Walker more in place of Paris Lenon. Walker is a hard hitter---and we need some statement tackles. We need to play much tougher---that has to be the focus.

7. I am still intrigued with the thought of sliding Richard Marshall over to SS. I hope the Cardinals place Adrian Wilson on IR, for his sake and the team's. If I were more confident in Hamza Abdullah, I wouldn't look to switch Marshall over---but Marshall has shown hitting ability---he has also shown blitzing skill---and I have little doubt that he can cover the TE....which we are going to need in our division games versus Vernon Davis and Lance Kendricks. If we have any hope at all it is in winning the division games---but SF, SEA and STL are physically tougher football teams and so we have to find a way to get tougher.

8. I am not going to go the easy route and re-sign Matt Ware as the backup FS. There has to be a better option. I would prefer Jared Campbell, Calais' little bro, to Ware. But I want to add another safety---as I have since Wilson's training camp injury.

9. I would like to see more of Michael Adams in the defense---he is one of the tougher players on the team and is one of the three best tacklers on the roster. If we move Marshall to SS---Adams can play the nickel, and I think this time he will be a real asset in that role. I love Adams' aggressiveness and his leadership---something this teams needs a great deal of right now.

10. I am not going to keep 2 punters on the roster. Graham looked better that Zastudil. Keep him and move on. Plus, Feely gets his best holder back.

I would try to make some trades if I could---especially of players who won't be Cardinals next year. Here's my predicted list:

RB Chester Taylor
T Levi Brown---will perform at a high level at G for some other team.
G Deuce Lutui---same.
WR Early Doucet
WR Chansi Stuckey
DT Vonnie Holliday
DE Nick Eason
LB Clark Haggans
LB Joey Porter
CB Richard Marshall
FS Kerry Rhodes
SS Adrian Wilson (sad to say---unless he can convert to OLB).

If it were up to me---I would relieve Ken Whisenhunt of his duties this week and promote Kevin Spencer to HC---and move DeShea Townsend over to STs coach (where Spencer will continue to supervise---and Townsend will continue to work with the CBs when he's not helping to coordinate STs). Spencer will bring the detail and sense of organization the team needs. And we need to move DC Ray Horton down to the field---we need a hands on approach to fixing this defense and shuffling personnel.

 

[Zeno]

In order to increase Kolb's comfort level, I would ask him what his 4 most favorite passing plays were when he was playing for the Eagles. I would adapt my system to make Kolb more comfortable---and more confident.

HA! Fat chance with this staff...never saw a staff so stubborn about fitting a square peg in a round hole.

Do we forget KW's, "The system works" quote?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Uh.

And take our best defensive player out of the picture in Daryl Washington ?

I think you forgot something Mitch.

I'd put Peterson at FS, and see what Chinedum Ndukwe or Darren Sharper is up to. Aaron Fransisco still available, while we suck he would at least fit right in with this bunch of losers.

At offensive line, I would do some whole sale changes.

It is before week eight, maybe we can trade Levi Brown for a deflated football, and cleats with no laces.

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[Mitch]

Uh.

And take our best defensive player out of the picture in Daryl Washington ?

I think you forgot something Mitch.

I'd put Peterson at FS, and see what Chinedum Ndukwe is up to.

What do you mean? I would be featuring the defense around Washington---I said we should try to get tougher by spelling Walker for Lenon.

Peterson is going to be an all-world CB---just needs time and good coaching.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

What do you mean? I would be featuring the defense around Washington---I said we should try to get tougher by spelling Walker for Lenon.

Peterson is going to be an all-world CB---just needs time and good coaching.

Just didn't see him noted is all.

 

[Jasper]

Changes I would make on Tuesday to help the team.


1. We have invested too much in Kolb to give up. It is not even worth the guaranteed money or cap hit to get rid of him or bench him. Face it we were spoiled with Warner. He made fast reads and had an even quicker release. I would straight up and ask Kolb, "WTF?" Why do you suck? You need more time or what?

2. Levi I won't even ask because we all know he sucks at LT. Move him to RT and Bridges or Batiste at LT. I am happy with the interior and we should keep it consistent.
LG is a great idea, but Colledge is already there. I like Deuce but Hadnot is outplaying him now.

3. Switch to a 4-3 or 4-6. Get 4 men on the line, either Dan or Carter also has to be in. Dockett is an UT not a NT. I would ask Horton, "can you scrap the 3-4?" yes/no? If yes then get the defensive line coach Aiken involved and ask them can you evaluate the defensive line and get our best 4 people on the line yes/no?

4. Cut the dizasterdil and Chester, they are not worth the roster spot.

5. I have know idea what to do about the secondary or OLBs. The talent and depth is just not there. I don't think they can be fixed this season and scheming won't help much.

6. I would straight up ask Whiz "WTF?" "what are you doing?" Can you handle the pressure? Do you have control of the team? I would also get Grimm and the Miller brothers involved and ask them "WTF?"

7. Of the coaches mentioned I would confiscate their chairs in their office and replace them with pots/pans, electric ranges and bbqs because I want the whole team to know they're on the hot seat.

 

[TRW]

Mitch,

There just isn't enough talent to make any changes that will matter on this team. The pieces you suggest are marginal at best players IMO and will NOT make things better. But, at 1 win so far, at least there will be new faces getting beat to a pulp I guess.

Part of your suggestions is that some players be coached up. That just isn't going to happen with this staff. This team is one of the poorest coached teams in football AT ANY LEVEL. Whiz is proving to be another in a long, long list of unqualified head coaches that have coached the Cardinals.

As I have mentioned before, the problem begins and ends with the name BIDWILL. Whether it is Bill or Michael at the helm this team is one of the worst in pro sports simply because of the ineptness at the top. Until that changes there is NO hope.

Into season two post-Warner has undeniably proven who was really most responsible for the amazing Super Bowl run. Mr. Warner carried that team there, period. Since that season Whiz has purged the players that he inherited, brought in those he wanted and we see the result.

Pitiful, but so typical of the Cardinals. All of the rhetoric, hysteria, anger and debate about how to fix this team is really wasted energy. Nothing is going to change, is it? Just Google the team and run through this teams record since it moved to Arizona. That tells the tale perfectly.

Sorry for the ramble and I really appreciate how much thought you put in your posts Mitch. I just don't have the faith you have in most of the replacements you mentioned in this post to do anything to change. As long as Whiz and Co. are "coaching them down" they will suck.

 

[az jam]

Mitch,
Some interesting analysis and thoughts. The problem is that the talent level just isn't there. I blame Graves for that.
I would not make any coaching changes until the season is over.
We need then to bring in a new GM and he should make the decisions on the coaching staff. Perhaps bringing in a consultant (like Parcells) now may make sense as other teams have done this in the past.

The team is in chaos and there are no easy answers.

 

[Duckjake]

I don't think anything will help. The next man up plays as bad or worse than the guy he replaced.

It's just a cloud of ineptitude that floated off for 2.5 seasons and is now back.

We all thought that finally we had a coaching staff that along with Michael Bidwill had changed the losing culture in Arizona. We thought wrong.

Oh well back to the days of enjoying the 5 wins a season and laughing at the team's keystone kards routine in the other 11.

 

[Mitch]

Mitch,

There just isn't enough talent to make any changes that will matter on this team. The pieces you suggest are marginal at best players IMO and will NOT make things better. But, at 1 win so far, at least there will be new faces getting beat to a pulp I guess.

Part of your suggestions is that some players be coached up. That just isn't going to happen with this staff. This team is one of the poorest coached teams in football AT ANY LEVEL. Whiz is proving to be another in a long, long list of unqualified head coaches that have coached the Cardinals.

As I have mentioned before, the problem begins and ends with the name BIDWILL. Whether it is Bill or Michael at the helm this team is one of the worst in pro sports simply because of the ineptness at the top. Until that changes there is NO hope.

Into season two post-Warner has undeniably proven who was really most responsible for the amazing Super Bowl run. Mr. Warner carried that team there, period. Since that season Whiz has purged the players that he inherited, brought in those he wanted and we see the result.

Pitiful, but so typical of the Cardinals. All of the rhetoric, hysteria, anger and debate about how to fix this team is really wasted energy. Nothing is going to change, is it? Just Google the team and run through this teams record since it moved to Arizona. That tells the tale perfectly.

Sorry for the ramble and I really appreciate how much thought you put in your posts Mitch. I just don't have the faith you have in most of the replacements you mentioned in this post to do anything to change. As long as Whiz and Co. are "coaching them down" they will suck.

TRW---yours was a great post. You didn't ramble at all. What you presented is the conundrum that kept me up half the night last night.

The question I keep asking myself is why do I continue to put so much time, energy and emotion into this team?

Like you said---proposing changes or ways to try to fix this thing is nothing more than "wasted energy."

I think back to the off-season. I ran a series of threads called "Cardinal Tough"---I had a concrete plan for fixing this thing---

It was and still is (even moreso after this 1-4 start versus the weakest part of our schedule) perfectly clear to me that this is a SOFT team, both mentally and physically. Even Kent Somers alluded to their "lack of toughness" in his article last night.

So---I spent weeks trying to scout the TOUGHEST players I could find---in the draft and in free agency.

My assessment of Kevin Kolb was that he isn't tough enough. But, like everyone, ever since the trade I have been hoping for the best.

My second point about Kolb was that the team should make him play for $1.4M this year and then evaluate what his real market value is. At worst, they could at least f-tag him---and the average of the two years was about $8M per.

All the while I have been enamored with John Skelton---because he is TOUGH. If anyone deserved excuses last year it was Skelton. His first and only snaps with the 1st Team offense were during Week 14 (which I still cannot believe based on the QB troubles last year)---and yet he leads that hapless team to a 2-2 record and the best game of the year in the comeback win versus the Cowboys.

But it seems that so many of the fans on this board get caught up in the status of higher profile players---as they did with Matt Leinart.

Of all the players I scouted---and I went back and watched tapes of games from two and three years ago---the toughest player I saw was OLB/DE Ryan Kerrigan. He was EXACTLY what we needed at SOLB.

To watch what Kerrigan is doing in DC and to then watch how pitiful and soft our OLBers are---it just makes me cringe. Plus, no pass rush either.

In any event---

There are several quotes form yesterday that help to prove your point, TRW:

1. Whisenhunt: "It's hard to make CHANGES in season."

2. Somers: "Cardinal fans are mad. Some are calling for Whisenhunt's job, Rod Graves' job, Kolb's job. NONE OF THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. NO ONE IS GETTING FIRED."

3. Boivin: (regarding firing Whisenhunt) "That's DOWNRIGHT SILLY."

So---we are going to have to spend the rest of this season watching:

1. Levi Brown suck at LT...and still play on an island.
2. Kevin Kolb run around jittery and scared.
3. Joey Porter and Clark Haggans play soft edges with no pass rush ability.
4. Adrian Wilson get taken easily out of plays by 5'10" WRs.
5. The younger players learn from the older players how to not show up for games and still get the paycheck reward.
6. Whisenhunt's awful game management week after week...awful press conferences...lame excuses...pointing the blame on everyone else.

And we are supposed to sign up for this AGAIN next year?

That to me is what's DOWNRIGHT SILLY.

As you say, why waste our time and energy?

 

[az jam]

And we are supposed to sign up for this AGAIN next year?

That to me is what's DOWNRIGHT SILLY.

As you say, why waste our time and energy?

The only thing that I have in my favor is that I have Club seats and my 3 year "license" contract is up at the end of the season. Club seats are expensive. I am not going to rush and make any decision until I see what happens in the off season. If the collapse is season long, (it probably will be) I think that you will see many season ticket holders not renewing. Put me at the top of that list.

 

[TRW]

TRW---yours was a great post. You didn't ramble at all. What you presented is the conundrum that kept me up half the night last night.

The question I keep asking myself is why do I continue to put so much time, energy and emotion into this team?

Like you said---proposing changes or ways to try to fix this thing is nothing more than "wasted energy."

I think back to the off-season. I ran a series of threads called "Cardinal Tough"---I had a concrete plan for fixing this thing---

It was and still is (even moreso after this 1-4 start versus the weakest part of our schedule) perfectly clear to me that this is a SOFT team, both mentally and physically. Even Kent Somers alluded to their "lack of toughness" in his article last night.

So---I spent weeks trying to scout the TOUGHEST players I could find---in the draft and in free agency.

My assessment of Kevin Kolb was that he isn't tough enough. But, like everyone, ever since the trade I have been hoping for the best.

My second point about Kolb was that the team should make him play for $1.4M this year and then evaluate what his real market value is. At worst, they could at least f-tag him---and the average of the two years was about $8M per.

All the while I have been enamored with John Skelton---because he is TOUGH. If anyone deserved excuses last year it was Skelton. His first and only snaps with the 1st Team offense were during Week 14 (which I still cannot believe based on the QB troubles last year)---and yet he leads that hapless team to a 2-2 record and the best game of the year in the comeback win versus the Cowboys.

But it seems that so many of the fans on this board get caught up in the status of higher profile players---as they did with Matt Leinart.

Of all the players I scouted---and I went back and watched tapes of games from two and three years ago---the toughest player I saw was OLB/DE Ryan Kerrigan. He was EXACTLY what we needed at SOLB.

To watch what Kerrigan is doing in DC and to then watch how pitiful and soft our OLBers are---it just makes me cringe. Plus, no pass rush either.

In any event---

There are several quotes form yesterday that help to prove your point, TRW:

1. Whisenhunt: "It's hard to make CHANGES in season."

2. Somers: "Cardinal fans are mad. Some are calling for Whisenhunt's job, Rod Graves' job, Kolb's job. NONE OF THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. NO ONE IS GETTING FIRED."

3. Boivin: (regarding firing Whisenhunt) "That's DOWNRIGHT SILLY."

So---we are going to have to spend the rest of this season watching:

1. Levi Brown suck at LT...and still play on an island.
2. Kevin Kolb run around jittery and scared.
3. Joey Porter and Clark Haggans play soft edges with no pass rush ability.
4. Adrian Wilson get taken easily out of plays by 5'10" WRs.
5. The younger players learn from the older players how to not show up for games and still get the paycheck reward.
6. Whisenhunt's awful game management week after week...awful press conferences...lame excuses...pointing the blame on everyone else.

And we are supposed to sign up for this AGAIN next year?

That to me is what's DOWNRIGHT SILLY.

As you say, why waste our time and energy?

Unfortunately, this is the plight of the Cardinal fan, which I have been since the mid 60's. Except for the Coryell years and the SB year this is just Groundhog Day season after season. I am one who roots for the home team but isn't delusional about it.

The only constants are perennially losing and BIDWILL with this franchise. Firing Whiz won't change a thing. No proven or top notch assistant on another NFL team would come here, no college coach who has a legitimate NFL future will come here because if they did the BIDWILL regime would not pay for top notch assistants for them. Denny Green is a case in point. When he coached in Minnesota he had great assistant coaches and it wasn't all on him. When he was here he was paid all the money and he had a very small budget to hire assistants. As always, ended in disaster.

I will continue to root for this team in spite of all of that. I will continue to hope that another fluke year will happen and they will win 9 or 10 games. In reality it will remain a hope only for years to come I am afraid.

Mitch, let's agree to continue to "waste our time and energy" on our beloved Cardinals in spite of it all OK? I am sick....LOL

 

[CFLredzoned]

2. OL: I like the tandem of Levi Brown and D'Anthony Batiste on the left side---only flip-flopped, with Batiste at LT and Brown at LG. On the other side, I want to play our toughest o-lineman, Deuce Lutui at RG where he belongs, and I would like to see what Daryn Colledge could do at RT. If Colledge isn't an upgrade over Bridges and Keith, I would stick with Bridges. I would move Keith back to guard.

It looked like they were experimenting with some different combos. I'm sure that has something to do with Keith being out. Did anyone notice that one run play sweeping left? They had 4 guys on the left side, 3 linemen. I think it went LG-Colledge, LT-Brown, LLT-Batiste, TE-?. I could be wrong on the personnel. But there were definitely 3 actual linemen. I thought that would be an illegal formation. I didn't know you could line up unlimited guys on one side of the ball. Whatever they were doing there, it worked on that one play.

So---we are going to have to spend the rest of this season watching:

1. Levi Brown suck at LT...and still play on an island.
2. Kevin Kolb run around jittery and scared.
3. Joey Porter and Clark Haggans play soft edges with no pass rush ability.
4. Adrian Wilson get taken easily out of plays by 5'10" WRs.
5. The younger players learn from the older players how to not show up for games and still get the paycheck reward.
6. Whisenhunt's awful game management week after week...awful press conferences...lame excuses...pointing the blame on everyone else.

Something tells me that Whiz is feeling the heat and is ready to react. I predict that 2 of these things change after we lose our next game.

 

[mrbyte]

It is before week eight, maybe we can trade Levi Brown for a deflated football, and cleats with no laces.

If we could get this it would be great!!! though to be honest I think just hold out for the deflated football and be content

 

[Chopper0080]

A couple points per position...

QB: He needs extra reps during this break. I know that coaches generally like to let players rest, but this team cant' afford to do that. I don't mind them going in shells to reduce impact, but schemes need to be rep'd at a higher than normal rate.

RB: Get Wells some rest in impact drills, and more reps in the passing game. At this point he is one of our best weapons and we need him on he field in any situation. He just needs to get a better feel for the passing game.

FB: Fairly happy with this position.

TE: Housler does need more playing time as it is obvious that he creates match up issues. Heap/King w/ Housler should be our 2 TE set from here on out. Also, I like Housler in the slot. Creates a size mismatch out side. He needs to become more consistent catching the ball, but that is up to him and should come with game reps.

OL: Colledge should be back which creates one the of the steadiest units on our team. As far as our tackles go...I was intrigued when they moved Brown to RT and Bridges to LT on the goal line during the game. I agree with most that Brown seems to be a better RT than LT, though that isn't saying much.

DL: Our linemen are solid personnel wise, but need to work on disengaging. Too often do they let offensive linemen into their bodies which allows them to be held. Better hand technique can fix this.

LB: Washington has been solid at WILB. I liked Acho's pass drops, though he didn't show much rushing the passer. Porter is waste, and I wouldn't add put him in the game until the 2nd and 4th quarters when players are worn out. Haggens is ok, and that is about it. If we could find a way to make Schofield smarter, that would be a big help. I might throw him in against Pittsburgh because they have such issues at tackle and we need a spark against a better team. Bradley hasn't shown any ability yet, and so it is hard to make it a priority to put him in anywhere.

DB: I really would like to move Patrick Peterson to FS, but I would hate to risk stunting his growth as a CB. Also, I like the idea of Peterson, Jefferson, Marshall, and Adams than that combo w/o Peterson. Signing Darren Sharper might be the best move available, not because he is so talented, but because he should be able to fill in faster. I would put Adrian Wilson on the IR as he is a liability. We know he can't cover, and if he can't play the run, he needs to go. Not to mention that he makes our defense very predictable. Put Abdulah in at SS, and hope for the best.

Our punters suck.

Coaching:
Offensively, we need to do something consistently good. If that limits our personnel groupings, fine. Limits our playbook, fine. Take a page from SF, and make it so our offense isn't making it harder for our defense. If we spent the entire two weeks working on two TE sets (Heap/King & Housler), red zone, no huddle, I Back sets (Heap/Housler & Sherman) and 4WR sets (adding Housler as the 4th WR) I would be happy. We also need to get some explosion plays into our offense. Due to our protection issues, these will most likely need to be off play action. We all can agree that this team isn't talented enough to sustain 10 play drives.

Defensively, we need work on assignment football. If we give up plays because we lack a base pass rush, that is fine. We knew that this would be a problem due to our personnel before the season started. What we can't afford is to give up plays by being out of position. That's why I put Wilson on the IR and work Acho in for Porter until Schofield shows that he understands the defense. Schofield needs more reps on passing downs where he can just rush, and not worry about dropping in coverage. I would also work on more stunting up front. While this can open holes, it also can cause holding penalties which are a big help to a struggling defense.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

And we are supposed to sign up for this AGAIN next year?

That to me is what's DOWNRIGHT SILLY.

As you say, why waste our time and energy?

With the exception of a magical two year hiatus, this is what we sign up for every year. They is what they is...Same OLD Cards. Constantly embarrassed on the road, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, soft, undisciplined bunch of losers. I've accepted this, and choose to laugh rather than get pissed off. Why would I let those losers ruin my day?

Most telling is the contrast between the Cardinals and the DBacks. Everyone had the DBacks as one of the worst teams in baseball with little talent and no chance of winning anything. Most pundits had them as the fifth best team in a division of 5. A team that lost 90 games the season before with no significant changes. But there was one major change, and that was at the top. Kirk Gibson came in and accepted nothing less than 100% effort, and if you didn't give it, you were gone. (Ask the 10 or so players jettisoned throughout the season) Despite the fact that they played 162+games, the DBacks brought it seemingly every night, and almost always worked harder and were tougher than their opponents. I almost NEVER feel that way about our hometown Cards, and in football, that's a death sentence for a team. Gibson, with his football background brought a football mentality to a unspectacular roster, and turned them into a legitimate contender. Perhaps the Cards could use a little Gibson Dbacks mentality?

I thought the Wiz was our version of Kirk Gibson, a force of personality who would sweep away the mentality and loser stink from the previous years of futility, but I'm just not sure I see it anymore. Between his stubborn insistence that "the system works" when it clearly doesn't, to his/the FO's refusal to address obvious weaknesses, those chinks in the armor of Whiz grow deeper every week. I'm not quite on the "Fire Whiz" bandwagon yet, but my patience is running thin.

If it were my choice, I'd fire Graves immediately, and get a Casserly or other legit evaluator of talent on board to evaluate the rest of the season. Wilson/Rhodes/Porter/Levi among others would be cut immediately at the end of the season, none of these players are acceptable starters. Grimm, thanks for your time, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. Kolb, find a way to make him successful. Not sure what that would be, as he's shown no presence, and little accuracy or vision. Considering the bounty we gave up for him, he's been a disaster.

Honestly, this team is a total mess. We do have a couple talented players to build around, but unfortunately they are surrounded by complete crap. I'd be fine retaining Whiz but only under the agreement that he'll have a firm and competent GM to pick the players. It is rare the situation where the coach can be the GM, and clearly, if that is the case here and Graves is just a figurehead, that needs to change.

 

[DoTheDew]

It was and still is (even moreso after this 1-4 start versus the weakest part of our schedule) perfectly clear to me that this is a SOFT team, both mentally and physically.

This right here is the most important thing in the whole thread IMO. There's no leadership and no accountability on this team. We used to be tough. Warner was a vocal leader and tough. Boldin was vocal and tough. Dansby and Rolle even were somewhat. We got rid of all of them and none of the replacements have stepped it up. It starts with Graves and Whis both being passive and goes all the way down to the practice squad.

Like you said, we're not tough. Until we find someone to take charge we're just going to keep collapsing under pressure.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Good post Mitch.

I would actually like to see Peterson at FS for a while for two reasons (even if it's just practice time) - when he is beat, he quits on the play and slaps his hands - that is a pansy DB attitude. When you are the "SAFETY" so push harder when the DB is beat, I want to have him practice in that role to understand that you are never beaten until the whistle blows. I liken it to Rolle's change in attitude as he played more and more safety, he even mentioned the change of mentality (though he played soft his first year or two in that role).