My Suns/Bulls trade idea as a Bulls fan

[bankybruce]

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Chicago Bulls

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $16,440,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 15.7 REB: 10.1 AST: 2.1 PER: 19.86

Boris Diaw
Salary: $9,000,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 7.6 REB: 4.2 AST: 3.9 PER: 10.41

Marcus Banks
Salary: $3,966,207 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 5.4 REB: 0.8 AST: 1.0 PER: 11.09

Raja Bell
Salary: $4,750,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.5 REB: 3.6 AST: 2.2 PER: 11.48


Outgoing Players: Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Wallace, Ben Gordon


Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Tyrus Thomas
Salary: $3,505,320 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.4 REB: 4.4 AST: 1.1 PER: 13.77

Kirk Hinrich
Salary: $11,250,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 12.5 REB: 3.7 AST: 6.1 PER: 12.92

Ben Wallace
Salary: $15,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.5 REB: 8.6 AST: 1.8 PER: 11.78

Ben Gordon
Salary: $4,881,669 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 19.6 REB: 3.5 AST: 2.8 PER: 15.59


Outgoing Players: Shawn Marion, Boris Diaw, Marcus Banks, Raja Bell



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Steve Kerr was in Chicago looking a Bulls players over the last few days.

I know I am dreaming.

Plus there is yout point gaurd to replace Nash.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Throw in Sefolosha and I'd consider it.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I really think we'd need to take Nocioni back to get fair value, but I would do that trade....

Nash-Hinrich
Gordon-Barbosa
Hill-Nocioni
Stoudemire-Thomas
Wallace-Skinner

Yeah. Definitely....

 

[bankybruce]

I really think we'd need to take Nocioni back to get fair value, but I would do that trade....

Nash-Hinrich
Gordon-Barbosa
Hill-Nocioni
Stoudemire-Thomas-Diaw
Wallace-Skinner

Yeah. Definitely....

Nocioni make 8 million a year. It would work if you swapped Hinrich for Duhon.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

It's only fair to analyze from CHI's perspective, too.

Duhon-Banks
Bell-Griffin
Deng
Marion-Diaw
Smith-Noah

I don't see them biting....

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Nocioni make 8 million a year. It would work if you swapped Hinrich for Duhon.

You're right.

So, revise the trade:

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4442145

Nash-Duhon
Gordon-Barbosa
Hill-Nocioni
Stoudemire-Thomas
Wallace-Skinner

Hinrich-Banks
Bell-Griffin
Deng
Marion-Diaw
Smith-Noah

That makes more sense, but, I still can't see that CHI would do it....

 

[AsUdUdE]

heres the problem with Chi...

1. Gordon does the same thing Barbosa does...

2. B. Wallace might Give D'Antoni an Aneurism by game #2...

3. I really doubt CHI would give Noconi, Duhon, Gordon, AND Thomas, in any one trade, let alone throw in Wallace....

We have all explored the CHI trades.. and while there seems to be SOO much potential.. none REALLY make sense...

 

[bankybruce]

heres the problem with Chi...

1. Gordon does the same thing Barbosa does...

2. B. Wallace might Give D'Antoni an Aneurism by game #2...

3. I really doubt CHI would give Noconi, Duhon, Gordon, AND Thomas, in any one trade, let alone throw in Wallace....

We have all explored the CHI trades.. and while there seems to be SOO much potential.. none REALLY make sense...

Here is why it makes sense for me. Gordon does not want to be in Chicago and will sign the tender this summer and bold after next season, Wallace is a waste when the team is loosing and Noah is outplaying him right now. The team has given up on Thomas. Nocioni is the only one i hate giving up. Deng can play the 2 if needed as well as Griffin. I like this team much better than the current one.

Hinrich-Banks
Bell-Stefalosha
Deng-Griffin-Khryapa
Marion-Diaw
Noah-Smith-Gray

 

[cly2tw]

It's robbery in Suns favor, you guys must know this, right?

Gordon might not want to stay in Chicago but they sure could do sign and trade and get back great value, more than LB + Bell for the least.

When you consider a trade, you gotta find the best alternatives to your proposed one for the other team. Otherwise, it's just a pile of day dreams.

So, Marion/Banks/Skinner/Pike for Wallace/Thomas/Duhon/Sefolosha is the best Suns might get from Bulls. Talent wise, it's Marion for Thomas/Sefo. We take Ben's contract, they get Banks off our hand. Ben is much better defender than Skinner.

Ben/Amare/Hill/Bell/Nash with Diaw/Tyrus/LB/Sefolosha/Duhon bench is strong enough to win us the title this year and we also get some young talent for future in Thomas/Sefo. Bulls must be able to convince Marion for a reasonable extension of say 12mil per for 4 years, or expect to fetch something nice in a sign and trade with him.

 

[AsUdUdE]

It's robbery in Suns favor, you guys must know this, right?

Gordon might not want to stay in Chicago but they sure could do sign and trade and get back great value, more than LB + Bell for the least.

When you consider a trade, you gotta find the best alternatives to your proposed one for the other team. Otherwise, it's just a pile of day dreams.

So, Marion/Banks/Skinner/Pike for Wallace/Thomas/Duhon/Sefolosha is the best Suns might get from Bulls. Talent wise, it's Marion for Thomas/Sefo. We take Ben's contract, they get Banks off our hand. Ben is much better defender than Skinner.

Ben/Amare/Hill/Bell/Nash with Diaw/Tyrus/LB/Sefolosha/Duhon bench is strong enough to win us the title this year and we also get some young talent for future in Thomas/Sefo. Bulls must be able to convince Marion for a reasonable extension of say 12mil per for 4 years, or expect to fetch something nice in a sign and trade with him.

Who here wants to pay B. Wallace 15 Million a year for the next 3 years??

Seriously, I think D'Antoni would have a nervous breakdown when Wallace is in the game, and would kill the Suns Style....

Thomas would end up replacing him and I think B Wallace would go to a reserve role playing 10-13 MPG...

I think I would rather pay Dunleavy 10 Million a year, than Wallace 15...

Overall its theoritically its a good deal for the suns... but Duhon is an un-restricted F.A. next year, and it wouldn't solve our financial Burdons at all..

If we trade Marion.. I want us to include him with Diawand get Cap relief as well.... IMO...