NO POCKET PRESENCE, Watch the FIRST play of the game

[Vermont Maverick]

First play, a nice pocket develops. Brown has his man walled to the left, Keith has forced his man 10 yards deep. All Kolb has to do is step up and to the right, and he would have had two or three more seconds. What does he do, panics and runs to his LEFT - and THEN TRIES TO THROW AGAINST HIS MOMENTUM with two guys bearing down on him - THE GUYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLOCKED IF HE JUST STEPPED UP. He fumbles of course. Awful. Awful. A high school QB would have made that play. GO WATCH IT.

Say what you will about our tackles, and they aren't good - but you've got to make the plays you can.

And another thing: ZERO touch on his passes. Everything is uncorked. He can't throw the seem pass because he has no touch. No concept of a throwing window what-so-ever.

Thank God we at least didn't trade Peterson for him.

 

[Phrazbit]

First play, a nice pocket develops. Brown has his man walled to the left, Keith has forced his man 10 yards deep. All Kolb has to do is step up and to the right, and he would have had two or three more seconds. What does he do, panics and runs to his LEFT - and THEN TRIES TO THROW AGAINST HIS MOMENTUM with two guys bearing down on him - THE GUYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLOCKED IF HE JUST STEPPED UP. He fumbles of course. Awful. Awful. A high school QB would have made that play. GO WATCH IT.

Say what you will about our tackles, and they aren't good - but you've got to make the plays you can.

And another thing: ZERO touch on his passes. Everything is uncorked. He can't throw the seem pass because he has no touch. No concept of a throwing window what-so-ever.

Thank God we at least didn't trade Peterson for him.

Exactly. The line is not good, but he puts his line in situations where they have no hope of blocking for him. People keep trying to claim "no QB would look good behind this line", wrong. We saw Warner look like a hall of famer behind a line just as bad or worse. However NO LINE could look good with an idiot QB like Kolb who constantly puts himself in situations where his blockers cant aid him.

 

[DieHardCardFan]

First play, a nice pocket develops. Brown has his man walled to the left, Keith has forced his man 10 yards deep. All Kolb has to do is step up and to the right, and he would have had two or three more seconds. What does he do, panics and runs to his LEFT - and THEN TRIES TO THROW AGAINST HIS MOMENTUM with two guys bearing down on him - THE GUYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLOCKED IF HE JUST STEPPED UP. He fumbles of course. Awful. Awful. A high school QB would have made that play. GO WATCH IT.

Say what you will about our tackles, and they aren't good - but you've got to make the plays you can.

And another thing: ZERO touch on his passes. Everything is uncorked. He can't throw the seem pass because he has no touch. No concept of a throwing window what-so-ever.

Thank God we at least didn't trade Peterson for him.

Exactly!!!!!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Kolb is toast.

 

[PJ1]

Saw this and thought the same thing. Our OL is bad but Kolb is impossible to block for. Never know where he is going other than backwards.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Im not sure if I was reading a legit article, but it mentioned Kolb only had 6 yards in the 2nd half? Can anyone verify the validity of that by chance, I would hope that it's not even close to true.

 

[Assface]

Seeing as how our tackles are allowing the ends to run past them almost every play you'd think that Kolb would realize that he should step up in the pocket instead of trying to roll out to the side where the ends are running upfield at full speed.

 

[gmabel830]

Im not sure if I was reading a legit article, but it mentioned Kolb only had 6 yards in the 2nd half? Can anyone verify the validity of that by chance, I would hope that it's not even close to true.

I believe that's correct.. I know there was a stat that showed Kolb has 3 passing yards before the 3 yard shovel pass to Taylor on 3rd and long, and looking at the game log I don't see another completed pass after that.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I believe that's correct.. I know there was a stat that showed Kolb has 3 passing yards before the 3 yard shovel pass to Taylor on 3rd and long, and looking at the game log I don't see another completed pass after that.

If thats the case Kolb just went from mediocre to downright embarrassing. No starting NFL QB should ever have those type of stats, especially in the 2nd half. You could give a bum on the streets a sandwich and he would have better stats than that, pretty pathetic. If Kolb is the future, then I hope fans enjoy picking in the top 5 for years to come.

 

[CFLredzoned]

First play, a nice pocket develops. Brown has his man walled to the left, Keith has forced his man 10 yards deep. All Kolb has to do is step up and to the right, and he would have had two or three more seconds. What does he do, panics and runs to his LEFT - and THEN TRIES TO THROW AGAINST HIS MOMENTUM with two guys bearing down on him - THE GUYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLOCKED IF HE JUST STEPPED UP. He fumbles of course. Awful. Awful. A high school QB would have made that play. GO WATCH IT.

Yeah, that really had me scratching my head. It's all he's been hearing for a week. "You need to step up in the pocket. You need to step up in the pocket." And he knows it. He admits it on the radio. "I need to step up in the pocket." Then what, the very first play of the game, he has a gaping 10 yard pocket in front of him, like I've never seen here in a long time. And what does he do? Run backwards, right into the pass rusher. I can't remember another QB that has such a knack for running into pass rushers. Some of it is just Cardinals bad luck I guess. You would think every now and then though, he would get lucky and hit an open area upon bailing. But no. Every time, right into the arms of an awaiting defender.

 

[Buckybird]

First play, a nice pocket develops. Brown has his man walled to the left, Keith has forced his man 10 yards deep. All Kolb has to do is step up and to the right, and he would have had two or three more seconds. What does he do, panics and runs to his LEFT - and THEN TRIES TO THROW AGAINST HIS MOMENTUM with two guys bearing down on him - THE GUYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLOCKED IF HE JUST STEPPED UP. He fumbles of course. Awful. Awful. A high school QB would have made that play. GO WATCH IT.

Say what you will about our tackles, and they aren't good - but you've got to make the plays you can.

And another thing: ZERO touch on his passes. Everything is uncorked. He can't throw the seem pass because he has no touch. No concept of a throwing window what-so-ever.

Thank God we at least didn't trade Peterson for him.

I'm gonna have to disagree...it was a 3 step drop & Levi was bullrushed right into within a step of Kolb. It was obviously a short route. Doesn't excuse Kolbs awareness on many plays, but IMO the 1st play isnt on #4. Maybe he couldve just fell down or taken a lesser sack, but Levi was manhandled.

 

[az1965]

Exactly. The line is not good, but he puts his line in situations where they have no hope of blocking for him. People keep trying to claim "no QB would look good behind this line", wrong. We saw Warner look like a hall of famer behind a line just as bad or worse. However NO LINE could look good with an idiot QB like Kolb who constantly puts himself in situations where his blockers cant aid him.

yep... Kolb is making this line look much worse.

 

[CFLredzoned]

I'm gonna have to disagree...it was a 3 step drop & Levi was bullrushed right into within a step of Kolb. It was obviously a short route. Doesn't excuse Kolbs awareness on many plays, but IMO the 1st play isnt on #4. Maybe he couldve just fell down or taken a lesser sack, but Levi was manhandled.

Are you sure we're talking about the same play? I just remember a gaping pocket in front of him. Then he turns to run backwards left and there's a defender. Now you have me curious. I'm gonna have to go watch it again.

 

[Seandonic]

I'm gonna have to disagree...it was a 3 step drop & Levi was bullrushed right into within a step of Kolb. It was obviously a short route. Doesn't excuse Kolbs awareness on many plays, but IMO the 1st play isnt on #4. Maybe he couldve just fell down or taken a lesser sack, but Levi was manhandled.

^This^ is correct.

 

[Buckybird]

Are you sure we're talking about the same play? I just remember a gaping pocket in front of him. Then he turns to run backwards left and there's a defender. Now you have me curious. I'm gonna have to go watch it again.

trust me, 1st play of the game aint on Kolb, he was sacked either way

 

[Stout]

Yeah, that was disgusting. Three-step drop or not, if he isn't ready to pull the trigger, he HAS to see that pocket, and he HAS to step up into it. Any QB that deserves to start HAS to have that much pocket presence. He doesn't and he doesn't.

 

[Big Deal]

I think that is his instinct from paying in Philly, the difference is he doesn't have DeSean Jackson open by 20 yards to throw to. His footwork is terrible, you can tell he was never taught to stay in the pocket, but instead to always be moving.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

I'm gonna have to disagree...it was a 3 step drop & Levi was bullrushed right into within a step of Kolb. It was obviously a short route. Doesn't excuse Kolbs awareness on many plays, but IMO the 1st play isnt on #4. Maybe he couldve just fell down or taken a lesser sack, but Levi was manhandled.

After your post, I rewatched cause I wanted to see your point. I gotta stick with mine. Levi was bullrushed, but he still had the defender walled off for Kolb to make an easy step up, and to the right. If no one was open, he could have run forward. Instead he runs backward into two defenders. Terrible. On Kolb.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Seeing as how our tackles are allowing the ends to run past them almost every play you'd think that Kolb would realize that he should step up in the pocket instead of trying to roll out to the side where the ends are running upfield at full speed.

LOL!

 

[Duckjake]

Yeah, that was disgusting. Three-step drop or not, if he isn't ready to pull the trigger, he HAS to see that pocket, and he HAS to step up into it. Any QB that deserves to start HAS to have that much pocket presence. He doesn't and he doesn't.

I've never seen a right handed QB turn and run to his left under pressure like DereKolb does. What is the guy thinking? Well maybe he isn't.