Now its about #16, 31, and 59

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I hope our picks after #1 are traded for a vet PG.

Who

 

[JCSunsfan]

I would love to combine our three picks after #1 and get the best player in the draft we can, if adding a player would help so be it. I don't even care if the player is not a pg, just the best player possible.

Carter, Mikal, Young, Shai, Porter Jr. Zhaire. Whoever falls. I still think Mikal could easily become the best player in this draft.

Sign Elfrid to an OK three year contract with a team option before year two. He gets decent money this year, and in the worst case scenario (for him, he is a free agent next year). As I look at the options, unless we can trade for a very good player, Elfrid and BK might be our best options at pg going into next year.

 

[Mainstreet]

I would love to combine our three picks after #1 and get the best player in the draft we can, if adding a player would help so be it. I don't even care if the player is not a pg, just the best player possible.

Carter, Mikal, Young, Shai, Porter Jr. Zhaire. Whoever falls. I still think Mikal could easily become the best player in this draft.

Sign Elfrid to an OK three year contract with a team option before year two. He gets decent money this year, and in the worst case scenario (for him, he is a free agent next year). As I look at the options, unless we can trade for a very good player, Elfrid and BK might be our best options at pg going into next year.

This is why I was hoping Payton was working out with the Suns. He could be the starting PG and the Suns draft BPA at #16 no matter the position.

 

[GatorAZ]

Who

Dragic, Conley or Lowry. Of course we’d be sending out contracts too.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Dragic, Conley or Lowry. Of course we’d be sending out contracts too.

That’s a big bucket of expensive “meh” that doesn’t fit the timeline.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

1. Draft Ayton
2. Trade for Kemba
3. Stock the concession stands full of steaming hot nachos with all the fixings

Boom. The Suns are respectable again.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Donovan Mitchell of this draft will be Mikal Bridges. He is not being overlooked necessarily, but other players are overshadowing him. If he ends up in the right place he could be ROY.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I understand the downside on Kemba...You need to make sure he will re-up and if so he's going to be expensive. Very expensive.

But here's the thing...Every good player we want to bring in is going to be expensive. I've heard arguments against bringing in Karl-Anthony Towns (AGAINST KARL-ANTHONY TOWNS!) because of price and it's a good argument because the Suns would be losing the holy grail of assets (a potential star on a rookie contract) to bring him in and would limit the ability to improve the roster.

However...that holy grail isn't happening again. You've got your building blocks in Booker, Jackson, and Ayton. The Suns can afford to add one big contract this year or next. That's got to be the right player, and in my mind that player is Kemba Walker.

• The Suns need a veteran leader who actually plays.
• They need a point guard to run the team.
• They need floor spacing.

Kemba is the perfect candidate. He turns 29 in three days, so he's not young but also not old. He's one of the top volume 3-point shooters in the entire league. And he's a respected leader.

What point guard would be more worthy of a big contract?

Here are the top point guards by "Estimated Wins Added" from last year:

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pg/sort/VORPe

1. James Harden
2. Russell Westbrook
3. Damian Lillard
4. Stephen Curry
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Kemba Walker
7. Chris Paul
Ben Simmons

There is one guy on that list the Suns could add without giving up the #1 pick or Josh Jackson. He's the same guy who is the TOP unrestricted free agent point guard next summer.

The time is now. Go get Kemba!

 

[GatorAZ]

That’s a big bucket of expensive “meh” that doesn’t fit the timeline.

I don’t care about the timeline anymore. We got the #1 pick and a star in Booker. I’m done messing with the development of those guys with trash PG’s. Yes those vets aren’t great but they’ll be good for the young guys and be off the books by the time other guys are up for deals (with the exception of Conley I suppose). I also don’t like the FA class the next two summers anyway.

 

[Raze]

I would love to combine our three picks after #1 and get the best player in the draft we can, if adding a player would help so be it. I don't even care if the player is not a pg, just the best player possible.

Carter, Mikal, Young, Shai, Porter Jr. Zhaire. Whoever falls. I still think Mikal could easily become the best player in this draft.

Sign Elfrid to an OK three year contract with a team option before year two. He gets decent money this year, and in the worst case scenario (for him, he is a free agent next year). As I look at the options, unless we can trade for a very good player, Elfrid and BK might be our best options at pg going into next year.

I agree with going BPA at #16. There just isn't a PG I HAVE to have there so it only makes sense to just strengthen our bench. Bridges might slide, but I doubt to #16. My Spidey sense is tingling with Mikal. I can't tell if I'm watching Vince Carter (athleticism) or Markieff Morris (attitude). Right now, I'm at an impasse.

At #31, I think we have a real opportunity to get better (shockingly). People often underestimate these upper class PGs that come out and they make an almost immediate impact off the bench. Van Fleet being recent enough and now people are considering grabbing him.

I'd love to see:

Jalen Brunson
Devonte Graham
Jevon Carter

I mean, we all know Brunson is going to San Antonio because he's literally a Pop kind of guy. I think we should beat them to the punch. He's not a starter, but a great lightening bug off the bench who has a history of winning with effort.

Graham is more the pure PG that will play D, but is nothing special in any area.

Carter is a D dynamo who can fill it up. 3&D. Great compliment to Book.

I've seen enough from Tyler to believe he's going to continuously be taken advantage of because of his size. I think any of these three would be an upgrade over him.

(And I disagree on Elfrid. Dude just doesn't care. You can lead a horse to water...)

 

[elindholm]

People often underestimate these upper class PGs that come out and they make an almost immediate impact off the bench. Van Fleet being recent enough and now people are considering grabbing him.

And Brogdon the year before that. I wonder what it would take to get him in a trade. This coming year is the last one on his contract, and the Bucks have some decisions to make about where they want to spend their money. They had the 7th highest payroll in the league this season, and I don't see that being sustainable. I wonder if they'd part with Brogdon for the #16 and the nonsense pick they owe.

 

[Chaplin]

I agree with going BPA at #16. There just isn't a PG I HAVE to have there so it only makes sense to just strengthen our bench. Bridges might slide, but I doubt to #16. My Spidey sense is tingling with Mikal. I can't tell if I'm watching Vince Carter (athleticism) or Markieff Morris (attitude). Right now, I'm at an impasse.

At #31, I think we have a real opportunity to get better (shockingly). People often underestimate these upper class PGs that come out and they make an almost immediate impact off the bench. Van Fleet being recent enough and now people are considering grabbing him.

I'd love to see:

Jalen Brunson
Devonte Graham
Jevon Carter

I mean, we all know Brunson is going to San Antonio because he's literally a Pop kind of guy. I think we should beat them to the punch. He's not a starter, but a great lightening bug off the bench who has a history of winning with effort.

Graham is more the pure PG that will play D, but is nothing special in any area.

Carter is a D dynamo who can fill it up. 3&D. Great compliment to Book.

I've seen enough from Tyler to believe he's going to continuously be taken advantage of because of his size. I think any of these three would be an upgrade over him.

(And I disagree on Elfrid. Dude just doesn't care. You can lead a horse to water...)

Don't forget Elie Okobo. Another PG I like, even before he scored 44 the other day.

 

[Chaplin]

Most current mock drafts I'm seeing have Lonnie Walker at #16, but I'm leaning toward Zhaire Smith. Neither are point guards, but one or both of them might be BPA at that slot.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I love Jevon Carter. He is just a defensive bulldog. He is not big, but he is incredibly strong. He is also a very good passer and shoots well from three. IOW he is a pass first Eric Bledsoe with a three pointer. I think he can guard both ones and twos. His defensive flexibility meshed with JJ, give you the ability to cover two wing players. Just watch the video of Carter defending Trae Young this year.


https://www.thestepien.com/2018/01/08/film-room-trae-young-vs-jevon-carter-matchup/

 

[Chaplin]

I love Jevon Carter. He is just a defensive bulldog. He is not big, but he is incredibly strong. He is also a very good passer and shoots well from three. IOW he is a pass first Eric Bledsoe with a three pointer. I think he can guard both ones and twos. His defensive flexibility meshed with JJ, give you the ability to cover two wing players. Just watch the video of Carter defending Trae Young this year.


https://www.thestepien.com/2018/01/08/film-room-trae-young-vs-jevon-carter-matchup/

Where do you think he slots at? NBADraft.net has him only as a mid-2nd rounder.

 

[Raindog]

I like Mikal Bridges, too, but I can't see any way he falls to 16.

I do think we can get a PG at 31 - at least one of Brunson, Carter, Graham, or Duval will be there for us. Just grab whoever we like.

The real sleeper I like at 16 is Divincenzo. He isn't really a PG, nor does he necessarily fill a pressing need, but he is going to be a dynamic off-the-bench guy for someone. He could eventually be a great second unit leader and occasional plug-in starter for us.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I love Jevon Carter. He is just a defensive bulldog. He is not big, but he is incredibly strong. He is also a very good passer and shoots well from three. IOW he is a pass first Eric Bledsoe with a three pointer. I think he can guard both ones and twos. His defensive flexibility meshed with JJ, give you the ability to cover two wing players. Just watch the video of Carter defending Trae Young this year.


https://www.thestepien.com/2018/01/08/film-room-trae-young-vs-jevon-carter-matchup/

I remember watching that game and being even more impressed by Trae Young than I had been coming into it. The entire West Virginia defense was constantly aware of ONE player. It was good team defense and good individual defense but most of Trae's problems came from a support cast that couldn't (support). He eventually started trying to do too much and he wore down. Prior to that he'd been eating them up at the foul line.

I keep seeing this video on Suns boards with the implication that this is a highlight game for Carter. But ignoring the defensive scheme and the advantage a well developed 22 year old will have over an undeveloped 18 year old can lead to false conclusions. I'd work him out but I'd want to see Carter defend and score against more mature NBA level players.

 

[pokerface]

Does anyone care about the Milwaukee pick next season? I mean would it move the needle much to move up in this draft?

Mil pick, #16, #31, #58 for top 10??

 

[Mainstreet]

I understand the downside on Kemba...You need to make sure he will re-up and if so he's going to be expensive. Very expensive.

But here's the thing...Every good player we want to bring in is going to be expensive. I've heard arguments against bringing in Karl-Anthony Towns (AGAINST KARL-ANTHONY TOWNS!) because of price and it's a good argument because the Suns would be losing the holy grail of assets (a potential star on a rookie contract) to bring him in and would limit the ability to improve the roster.

However...that holy grail isn't happening again. You've got your building blocks in Booker, Jackson, and Ayton. The Suns can afford to add one big contract this year or next. That's got to be the right player, and in my mind that player is Kemba Walker.

• The Suns need a veteran leader who actually plays.
• They need a point guard to run the team.
• They need floor spacing.

Kemba is the perfect candidate. He turns 29 in three days, so he's not young but also not old. He's one of the top volume 3-point shooters in the entire league. And he's a respected leader.

What point guard would be more worthy of a big contract?

Here are the top point guards by "Estimated Wins Added" from last year:

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pg/sort/VORPe

1. James Harden
2. Russell Westbrook
3. Damian Lillard
4. Stephen Curry
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Kemba Walker
7. Chris Paul
Ben Simmons

There is one guy on that list the Suns could add without giving up the #1 pick or Josh Jackson. He's the same guy who is the TOP unrestricted free agent point guard next summer.

The time is now. Go get Kemba!

Kemba will be on the last year of his contract next season with the Hornets. They will want something significant in return.

Also it's risky trading for him as he may not re-sign with the Suns. If so, the Suns better be prepared to show him the money when he turns 30.

https://hoopshype.com/player/kemba-walker/salary/

I guess I would prefer the Suns draft a PG and find a temporary starter. The Suns will have Ayton, Booker and Jackson so I'm not feeling the need to rush it anymore.

 

[Mainstreet]

Does anyone care about the Milwaukee pick next season? I mean would it move the needle much to move up in this draft?

Mil pick, #16, #31, #58 for top 10??

I'd do it if the right player was there.

 

[GatorAZ]

First round PG’s since 2013 (may be missing some)...
Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
De’Aaron Fox
Frank Ntilikina
Dennis Smith Jr
Kris Dunn
Cameron Payne
Wade Baldwin
Emmanuel Mudiay
Tyus Jones
D’Angelo Russell
Terry Rozier
Dante Exum
Elfrid Payton
Tyler Ennis
Shabazz Napier
Trey Burke
Michael Carter-Williams
Shane Larkin

 

[AzStevenCal]

Does anyone care about the Milwaukee pick next season? I mean would it move the needle much to move up in this draft?

Mil pick, #16, #31, #58 for top 10??

Sorry but I already have plans for it. I intend to send the 16, the 59 along with the Milwaukee and Miami picks to the Chicago Bulls for Trae Young.

 

[pokerface]

Sorry but I already have plans for it. I intend to send the 16, the 59 along with the Milwaukee and Miami picks to the Chicago Bulls for Trae Young.

Or we could go a lot cheaper and shoot for #13 pick and get Shai

 

[JCSunsfan]

Sorry but I already have plans for it. I intend to send the 16, the 59 along with the Milwaukee and Miami picks to the Chicago Bulls for Trae Young.

We would be a defensive mess, but boy would that team be fun to watch.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Or we could go a lot cheaper and shoot for #13 pick and get Shai

I like Shai but I'm not sure he'll ever be more than a great 2nd guard.