Official 2008 NFL Draft Thread

[Cbus cardsfan]

Pretty good trade by NO to get the guy they wanted.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

NE will be getting a CB at #10 is my guess.

maybe Rivers

 

[Osbern61]

Here comes the run on CB's.

I'm afraid you're right.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Bengals now have to go OL/RIvers

 

[Dr. Jones]

# 8 - Jacksonville Jaguars
From Baltimore Ravens

Derrick Harvey


DE | (6'4

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Scouts Grade: 95

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Strengths: Is tall and well built with very long arms (35.4 inches) and big hands (9.3 inches). Has a quick first step for his size and can beat most blocker to the point of attack. He hugs the rail tightly as a pass rusher and wastes very little motion getting to the quarterback. Runs line stunts well and flashes an effective rip move when shoots inside. Changes directions well, flashes an effective spin move and can set tackles up to the outside before redirecting inside. Has a mean streak and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit when gets to the quarterback. Keeps head up, times jumps well and can get hands on passes when doesn't get to the quarterback. Shows good awareness and locates the ball quickly. Moves well laterally and does a nice job of scraping down the line of scrimmage. Stays home when plays goes away from him and generally does a nice job of setting the edge when opponents attack the perimeter to his side. Takes sound pursuit angles, closes down cutback lanes and has sideline-to-sideline range. Plays under control in space, wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler. While doesn't have much experience dropping into coverage, is quick and athletic enough to hold own in zone coverage once he gains experience in this area.

Weaknesses: Is quicker than fast. Shows good initial burst but lacks elite closing quickness as a pass rusher. Though tough, he lacks ideal lower body strength, doesn't always stay low to the ground and struggles to anchor when teams run at him. Can deliver a power punch at times but doesn't always use hands well and takes too long to long to shed blocks when gets reached. Relies on quickness too much and occasionally tries to sidestep blocks rather than stacking them up. Doesn't protect legs all that well and is vulnerable to cut blocks. Appears to pull up when blockers are able to get into position and effort is inconsistent.

Overall: Florida red-shirted Harvey in 2004 and he appeared in nine games of the 2005 season. Harvey stated all 14 games of the 2006 season and recorded 11 sacks that year. He started all 13 games of the 2007 season recording 32 total tackles, 11 tackles-for-loss, 4.5 quarterback sacks and three quarterback-hurries. Harvey lacks ideal top-end speed and he also needs to improve his lower-body strength in order to take on bigger NFL blockers in the run game. While he is not quite as explosive as former Gator line-mate Jarvis Moss (Broncos), Harvey is a more complete player at this point. He possesses very good initial burst and athletic ability for his size. We think Harvey can develop into a good every-down starter in a 4-3 scheme at the next level, which is why we give him a slightly higher grade than the one we gave a year ago to Moss, who was selected 17th overall.

 

[Mulli]

Now ASFN Admin is going to recap the draft and get in the way all day long.

Phooey!

 

[FrustratedFan04]

What were the terms of the two trades?

 

[Assface]

Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston and Harvery gone. Who do the Bengals take now? They need defense in the worst way.

 

[O]

Here comes the run on CB's.

See, what the hell do I know.

 

[Southpaw]

Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston and Harvery gone. Who do the Bengals take now? They need defense in the worst way.

Trade down would be smart, but they will probably take Rivers or one of the CBs.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

i wouldn't have minded Harvey at 16.

 

[O]

Trade down would be smart, but they will probably take Rivers.

Looks like it's Rivers

 

[Mulli]

See, what the hell do I know.

I blame the lack of HD.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston and Harvery gone. Who do the Bengals take now? They need defense in the worst way.

I was going to say Rivers, but espn just showed him on the phone and his family cheering. Done deal.

And now he is wearing a Bengals cap.

 

[O]

I blame the lack of HD.

Good one!

 

[Assface]

Trade down would be smart, but they will probably take Rivers or one of the CBs.

They should offer this pick to Dallas for their 2 1's and take Balmer and a CB. Trading down now would be smart so odds are Cinci will keep this pick.

 

[Evil Ash]

Looks like Rivers to the Bengals, NE taking DCR, and then comes the real wild card in Buffalo

 

[Assface]

i wouldn't have minded Harvey at 16.

He was my preferred pick at 16.

 

[Mulli]

Marv Levy likes J. Stewart. Make it so, Cards.

 

[Dr. Jones]

# 9 - Cincinnati Bengals

Keith Rivers


OLB | (6'2

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Scouts Grade: 96

Flags: (D: DURABILITY) Player that can't stay healthy

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Strengths: Possesses outstanding size; is well built for his taller frame. Also has long arms (33), huge hands (11) and a strong upper body (24 reps). Not an elite athlete, but he does have good speed and athleticism for his size. Makes up for what he lack in terms of elite athleticism with great recognition skills. He is smart, tough and instinctive. Shows very good awareness. Rarely takes false steps. Is a striker as a tackler. Will make some big hits due to his short area explosiveness. Uses hands well to keep off of blocks. He refuses to stay blocked. Takes excellent angles in pursuit. Displays good range in zone coverage. Also is an underrated pass rusher. Has developed a better array of pass rush moves, hugs the rail as he turns the corner as an outside rusher and displays surprising closing burst to the QB. Knows how to jar the ball loose and generates more than his share of forced fumbles. Plays with a very good motor and will wear blockers down. Never gives up on a play and will show tremendous effort when pursuing from the backside. He's always flying around the field. Leads by example.

Weaknesses: Plays too high at times and loses his power when he does. Does a great job of sifting through traffic but needs to learn to anchor better when he's forced to take on blocks in the phone booth. Shows a bit of stiffness in his hips. Will struggle to keep with elite pass-catching RB's in the NFL on double moves and when forced to turn and run. Not an established playmaker in coverage. Good range in coverage but lacks ideal ball skills. Durability is a minor concern.

Overall: Rivers appeared in 37 games in his first three seasons at USC (2004-'06), recording 162 tackles (13.5 for losses), 5.5 sacks and two interceptions. As a senior in 2007, he played 12 games (11 starts) at weak-side linebacker, turning in 78 tackles (five for losses), three fumble recoveries, a forced fumble and four pass breakups. He missed a game (Arizona State) in 2007 after spraining his left ankle, which had required arthroscopic surgery to remove bone spurs earlier in the spring. He also missed two games in 2005 and was limited in others because of a hamstring strain. Rivers possesses very good  but not exceptional  overall physical tools. His outstanding combination of instincts, work ethic and experience is what separates him from other linebackers with similar skill sets. While he is the top rated linebacker on our 2008 board, Rivers is a notch below elite talents such as A.J. Hawk (Packers) and Patrick Willis (49ers) from recent NFL drafts. Some teams could consider him at inside linebacker but Rivers seems best suited to play the WILL in a 4-3 scheme. He should be selected in the middle portion of the first round.

I am actually Happy that Rivers is off the board. If his name isn't Maualuga... I don't want a USC Linebacker.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Looks like Rivers to the Bengals, NE taking DCR, and then comes the real wild card in Buffalo

NE, i think takes Albert

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

i'm glad Rivers is gone a not available to the Cards

 

[Dr. Jones]

OR McKelvin

 

[Pariah]

Did you guys see the shot of the Bengals draft party? Looked like a wake.

 

[Dr. Jones]

i'm glad Rivers is gone a not available to the Cards

agreed