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Who would you have signed and for how much? 8 million per is not big money for a starting CB. Up until last season, Alford was a good #2 corner in the NFL. AND he doesn't count against comp pick formula which is huge in the modern NFL.

Kareem Jackson at 11 per would have fit with me. Or taking a shot at Bradley Roby, a younger CB who's been very good outside of a down year last year. With Jackson you get a guy who's always been good at the same age as Alford. And with Roby you get a young CB with big upside.


You can say this for ALOT of these signings. Tyrann Mathieu just got big money and he has had multiple major injuries in the NFL.

You just made my point for me Krang. We look at Mathieu and KNOW that's a bad contract. It's the same exact thing Eagles fans think looking at us right now... except Hicks has been even more injury prone, not only through the pros but in college as well.

I would have at least gone after Barr over Hicks. I also would have made a major play for Patrick Onwuasor. Kid's a stud and probably the Ravens best ILB who's great in coverage. He was tendered a 2nd rounder, but is still very young and would fill a gaping hole in the middle. That would be worth a 2nd rounder to me, especially considering Keim's rather abysmal track record in the draft lately.

It's a contact sport and players get hurt. The Cardinals have had an unusual number of injuries and teams tend to regress back to the mean.

I'm so tired of the injury excuse. It's just not unusual for a team to have a huge amount of injuries when you put together a team that's full of perpetually injured players. Expecting that to magically change is Charlie Brown Syndrome.

The Rams last year were incredibly healthy; during the Fisher years they had a lot of injuries. My point is that if players are available there usually is a reason and injuries are often a big reason, or they have an uneven record of performance and teams are sticker shocked.

Which is why this team should have fired Keim after the season. The reason we have to depend on filling so many question marks with even more question marks is because his scouting has been atrocious in recent years.
 

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You're wasting your keystrokes.

ok.

you guys are right. Keim's perpetual plan to bargain shop and get guys who are perpetually injured has worked great the last three years.
 

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Got the ILB we need, now what. Need OL and maybe WR. What about Williams from San Diego, haven’t heard anything on him
 

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ESPN's Dianna Russini said on NFL Live that "most GMs" around NFL believe offers to free agent Le'Veon Bell are "coming in around $11-12 million" per year, and that's obviously well short of what Bell wants.
 

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ESPN's Dianna Russini said on NFL Live that "most GMs" around NFL believe offers to free agent Le'Veon Bell are "coming in around $11-12 million" per year, and that's obviously well short of what Bell wants.

man... he might have really screwed his earning potential. He's never going to get back the money he lost last year not playing and isn't finding the market's too great for him now.
 

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man... he might have really screwed his earning potential. He's never going to get back the money he lost last year not playing and isn't finding the market's too great for him now.

It’s aweosme
 

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and if Bradford stayed healthy... if Pugh stayed healthy... and if Diche stayed healthy... and if Humphries stayed healthy... and if Iupati stayed healthy and HB before them and on and on and on. We seemingly build our team based on IF. It hasn't worked well for us for the last three years.

So true, but no one can fault Keim for those players getting injured.
 

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Fans siding with owners always leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Will never understand it.
 

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Kareem Jackson at 11 per would have fit with me. Or taking a shot at Bradley Roby, a younger CB who's been very good outside of a down year last year. With Jackson you get a guy who's always been good at the same age as Alford. And with Roby you get a young CB with big upside.

And that would be a horrible choice because Kareem Jackson is like a safety/corner hybrid, NOT AN OUTSIDE CORNER. And Bradley Roby struggled mightily playing on the outside for the first time in his career after being a nickel guy for his first four years.

Alford has been an outside corner his entire career, which outside of last year, he was a pretty good player.




You just made my point for me Krang. We look at Mathieu and KNOW that's a bad contract. It's the same exact thing Eagles fans think looking at us right now... except Hicks has been even more injury prone, not only through the pros but in college as well.

And you're aren't quoting an important part of what I said.....almost EVERY one of these guys have a major wart or two.

Yeah Hicks has injury concerns, but he has been a very good player throughout his career.


I would have at least gone after Barr over Hicks. I also would have made a major play for Patrick Onwuasor. Kid's a stud and probably the Ravens best ILB who's great in coverage. He was tendered a 2nd rounder, but is still very young and would fill a gaping hole in the middle. That would be worth a 2nd rounder to me, especially considering Keim's rather abysmal track record in the draft lately.

The guy who just spurned the team he was going to sign with to go back to Minnie? And who isn't really an ILB, is probably really best suited to play OLB? The guy who has at times played poorly?

And you would trade a premium pick for a guy that the Ravens are hoping they can get a 2nd round pick (which is why teams do that because they know the guy is not worth a 2nd rounder).



I'm so tired of the injury excuse. It's just not unusual for a team to have a huge amount of injuries when you put together a team that's full of perpetually injured players. Expecting that to magically change is Charlie Brown Syndrome.



Which is why this team should have fired Keim after the season. The reason we have to depend on filling so many question marks with even more question marks is because his scouting has been atrocious in recent years.


I don't disagree, but when you fail at the draft, this is what you get. You either pay an ILB pass rusher money or you pay an injured guy a lot less.
 

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It is but it impacts available money in FA. What’s the point of having $15M in cap space if you have $10M in dead money?

The point is self evident: you can use the $15m to sign more players given that the $10m has already been subtracted from the available CAP.
 

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He played hardball and lost 14 million last year. Now may not get near what he’s asking this year. Shows being greedy and malcontent may not pay off. I’m all about it.

Greedy?

He made a business decision and was quite clear why. He believed that they would physically use him up and curtail his future employment opportunities.
 

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Greedy?

He made a business decision and was quite clear why. He believed that they would physically use him up and curtail his future employment opportunities.

Yea he was greedy and his business decision looks like it may just have been a bad one.
 

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Got the ILB we need, now what. Need OL and maybe WR. What about Williams from San Diego, haven’t heard anything on him
He will be too much money and with the wr available in the draft I doubt we do that. I think we need an experience outside wr. Donte Moncrief I think fits the bill. He’s been stuck on a terrible jaguar offense and I believe when he was with the Colts Luck was injured . He’s big and pretty fast. I doubt he’s going to command a lot of money.
 

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He will be too much money and with the wr available in the draft I doubt we do that. I think we need an experience outside wr. Donte Moncrief I think fits the bill. He’s been stuck on a terrible jaguar offense and I believe when he was with the Colts Luck was injured . He’s big and pretty fast. I doubt he’s going to command a lot of money.

Moncrief hasn't been good either though. He was one of the reasons Jacksonville wasn't good last year.

He was Devin Funchess last year....got paid big money for one year and then was mediocre.

Tyrell Williams MIGHT BE cheaper than we thought. He may be asking for top WR money and he's not getting it. Maybe he can be had for a more reasonable contract now?
 

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