yeah, after you reminded me of the weather, I'm really torn on whether I ever want summer to get here. Can we just skip it & jump to the fall?
Official Arizona Weather Thread
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If it makes any difference, the current weather patterns for the Southwestern U.S. have meteorologists stumped. The El Nino/La Nina factor isn't even predictable. This was supposed to be a very dry winter, not one with a lot of snow pack, which we got in a La Nina year. It became a La Nina despite neutral predicted conditions, and we still get moisture from the south Pacific.
Last summer was the hottest one I can remember. Odds of repeating it are declining.
La Nina conditions weakened quite a bit in March. We're expected to get 3 more months of La Nina and we could be heading into a completely neutral pattern for the summer, which really jacks up the weather patterns ... last year under El Nino-neutral conditions hurricanes were driven far south into Mexico and Central America. Who knows what happens in a La Nina-neutral pattern.
Last summer was the hottest one I can remember. Odds of repeating it are declining.
La Nina conditions weakened quite a bit in March. We're expected to get 3 more months of La Nina and we could be heading into a completely neutral pattern for the summer, which really jacks up the weather patterns ... last year under El Nino-neutral conditions hurricanes were driven far south into Mexico and Central America. Who knows what happens in a La Nina-neutral pattern.
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Ah yes, 2007 was so joyous with it's 32 days of 110 and above.... UGH.
Let's hope the 100's stay as far away as possible for as long as possible.
Boo summer! Hiss!!!
That said, here are the lines;
First 100
O/U - May 5
O/U - 100 in a row - 28 1/2
O/U - Days over 110 - 26 1/2
My bets:
That said, here are the lines;
First 100
O/U - May 5 I say before May 5
O/U - 100 in a row - 28 1/2 Less than that
O/U - Days over 110 - 26 1/2 Less than that
That said, here are the lines;
First 100
O/U - May 5
O/U - 100 in a row - 28 1/2
O/U - Days over 110 - 26 1/2
Hard to predict the first 100 degree day because we should be very dry with lots of high pressure raising our temps into June. The first day of 100 is not a great predictor of how hot the summer will be -- but I'm betting June is a scorcher again. The last two weeks should be absolutely miserable until we get the wind shift and some moisture from the Gulf.
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That said, here are the lines;
First 100
O/U - May 5
O/U - 100 in a row - 28 1/2
O/U - Days over 110 - 26 1/2
Dude, we could totally start our own show, "I bet you" style. If we only had our own money like Phil and Antonio do...........
Donald and I started betting pushups. It is great and sucks ass at the same time.
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I'd be so down for that. I need an excuse to start doing them again.
PHXSportsFan4
Time for baseball season.
Can anyone who has spent time in both types of weather explain the differences between humid weather and dry weather? I know humid typically feels worse since you get all hot and sticky and all but I'm talking more along the lines of how a higher temperature but dry feels better than a lower temperature but humid.
For example, I have heard that 100 in Phoenix feels better than 85 in a pretty humid place. I am from Southern Indiana next to Louisville, KY and there are times where it does get pretty humid here but probably nowhere near as bad as places like Miami or Houston, for example.
I've just always wondered about this and wondered if there really is a big difference. I guess I will probably find out the answer for myself as we are going to be taking a 5 day trip to Phoenix this May and by that time it should be right around 85 here and around 100 there so it might work out perfectly for me to feel the differences for myself.
For example, I have heard that 100 in Phoenix feels better than 85 in a pretty humid place. I am from Southern Indiana next to Louisville, KY and there are times where it does get pretty humid here but probably nowhere near as bad as places like Miami or Houston, for example.
I've just always wondered about this and wondered if there really is a big difference. I guess I will probably find out the answer for myself as we are going to be taking a 5 day trip to Phoenix this May and by that time it should be right around 85 here and around 100 there so it might work out perfectly for me to feel the differences for myself.
OP
OP
There is a HUGE difference...
The problem with humidity is that you end up feeling sticky because you sweat more. When the air is dry, you sweat less.
100 degrees here with 10% humidity is very dry, and not too bad. 85 in Memphis where it's 65% humidity is pretty hot.
Now, in the summer, when it's monsoon season...we have higher humidity and so you end up suffering anyways, although it's not nearly as bad as in the south.
The problem with humidity is that you end up feeling sticky because you sweat more. When the air is dry, you sweat less.
100 degrees here with 10% humidity is very dry, and not too bad. 85 in Memphis where it's 65% humidity is pretty hot.
Now, in the summer, when it's monsoon season...we have higher humidity and so you end up suffering anyways, although it's not nearly as bad as in the south.
82CardsGrad
7 x 70
I grew up back east and have lived here in AZ for almost 8 years now...
I would gladly take 100 degrees and 10-15% humidity over 85 degrees and 65-70% humidity... It's not even close...
I am not even one who sweats a lot. But I am one who is big into the "comfort" factor... Heat indexes are very intriguing... When it's 85-90 degrees back east, with 70% humidity, the heat index is often higher than when it's 95-100 degrees here in AZ!!
but will you take 85 degrees & 65-70% humidity over 115 degrees & 20% humidity? Just wondering.
82CardsGrad
7 x 70
Yup... I've got the bigger picture in mind and as they say, "You don't have to shovel the heat"!!!!
I was trying to figure out what the avg. humidity in July was here & came across this gem:
http://ezinearticles.com/?What-Kind-Of-Weather-To-Expect-In-Phoenix&id=668575
http://ezinearticles.com/?What-Kind-Of-Weather-To-Expect-In-Phoenix&id=668575
:82: Yeah, whoever wrote that has never been here in July.
Sorry Mike but I dont believe that is exactly true. I think in the dry heat you sweat as much if not more. The thing is that with no humidity it evaporates at a much quicker rate. When the air is saturated with humidity you dont evaporate the sweat as quickly.
OP
OP
Yeah, you are right Shane, that's what I meant, I just didn't get it right
Thanks for the correction.
This is exactly why:
- Most people prefer the hotter dry heat over lower humid heat: Your sweat, the biological cooling system, works as it's supposed to. The evaporating sweat causes your body to cool rather than pooling and becoming a heating agent of its own.
- Evaporative coolers are so popular in Phoenix. Cooler moisture is released in the air and evaporates, bringing down the temperature in a room -- sometimes with dramatic effects. Evaporative coolers generally stop working in the Valley when the dew point gets up to about .52, which is about normal most days during the monsoon season.
In the summer months, the average Phoenician produces approximately 26 ounces of sweat per hour. That's slightly more than a 2-liter bottle every 3 hours.
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82CardsGrad
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Forgot to note the sweat numbers are based on all Phoenicians being outside all the time in the average summer temps. We don't actually produce a keg of sweat a day. That would be fatal.
The numbers are what Old Spice used to label Phoenix the "Sweatiest City in the U.S." I think we're going on National Title No. 5 this summer.
The numbers are what Old Spice used to label Phoenix the "Sweatiest City in the U.S." I think we're going on National Title No. 5 this summer.
PHXSportsFan4
Time for baseball season.
Well thanks everyone that commented. I have never lived anywhere with low humidity or low dew points so I really don't know what that's like but it sounds like I'm going to enjoy it a lot more.
Some days around here it may only be 65 or 70 degrees but it still feels a little uncomfortable because the humidity and dew point is up.
Some days around here it may only be 65 or 70 degrees but it still feels a little uncomfortable because the humidity and dew point is up.
NMCard
ASFN Lifer
I will give it three more weeks before I hook up the swamp cooler.
It's all relative. It will take some adjustment and let's not pretend it's not still very hot. Once you get up to over 105 there's no hiding the fact it's hotter here than most other places. It's not fun. It's not fun getting in a car with direct exposure to the sun. It's not fun walking anywhere near the blacktop. Don't want to blow dry-heat sunshine up your arse.
What we are primarily discussing are most days in Arizona's extended summer, which lasts almost twice as long as most other places in the country. Summer starts around the last week of April/first of May and ends sometime late October/early November. When people are balking at a 102 in early May or late September, we're relatively comfortable because it's more like low to mid-90s in a humid climate.
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