Official Draft Thread

[az1965]

What did CLE give DET to move up?

Browns get: Detroit's first-round pick (No. 6), which they used to select Miami TE Kellen Winslow.
Lions get: Cleveland's first-round pick (No. 7), which they used to select Texas WR Roy Williams, and second-round pick (No. 37) in 2004 draft.

 

[Stout]

According to Denny Green, Oakland was locked into Gallery or Fitz and the Cards were sweating it out for a few minutes.

There were more reporters here than I've ever seen cover the Cards.

Got some good stuff but won't get any articles up until Monday.

I'm willing to bet quite a bit (though we'll never know) that Al Davis tried to bluff us to get us to trade up, and our war room said HELL NO!!!

 

[Evil Ash]

Browns get: Detroit's first-round pick (No. 6), which they used to select Miami TE Kellen Winslow.
Lions get: Cleveland's first-round pick (No. 7), which they used to select Texas WR Roy Williams, and second-round pick (No. 37) in 2004 draft.

IMO they gave up too much to move up 1 spot

 

[Stout]

Here's a thought...if we're sitting at #33, and Kevin Jones is still on the board, do you think Denny could get the Lions #37 and #38 (or is it 36 or 37?) for that #33, with the threat that they'll take Jones themselves? Or could we get one of those 2nd rounders and a third, or even a fourth? Depends on who else is available and who we really want, IMO, but I think something like this is very possible, IF Jones falls to us.

 

[Pariah]

IF Jones falls to us.

If I could sprout wings and fly, I would. But it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Shane]

Here's a thought...if we're sitting at #33, and Kevin Jones is still on the board, do you think Denny could get the Lions #37 and #38 (or is it 36 or 37?) for that #33, with the threat that they'll take Jones themselves? Or could we get one of those 2nd rounders and a third, or even a fourth? Depends on who else is available and who we really want, IMO, but I think something like this is very possible, IF Jones falls to us.

Jones wont fall that far IMO.

 

[vikesfan]

WTF are teams doing CLE gave up a 2nd round pick to move up one SPOT.

DET is going to a dangerous team next year.

Shane I agree the odds for WRs aren't good, but look at the film on Fitz he made freakish catches in his career. I think at WORST the dude will be a solid possession WR.

The thing that has killed MIN for the last 2 years has been MOSS being doubled and tripled and not having a legit WR to take pressure off him.

 

[az jam]

Agree with Vikesfan that Detroit will be much tougher next year especailly now with two low second round picks.

Winslow is a playmaker and really will fit well into the Browns team.

 

[vikesfan]

Here's a thought...if we're sitting at #33, and Kevin Jones is still on the board, do you think Denny could get the Lions #37 and #38 (or is it 36 or 37?) for that #33, with the threat that they'll take Jones themselves? Or could we get one of those 2nd rounders and a third, or even a fourth? Depends on who else is available and who we really want, IMO, but I think something like this is very possible, IF Jones falls to us.

You know this is tempting the Cards can always get another RB next year or later in the draft - and Jones is no sure thing. His speed is iffy.

I actually like this. DET might be a playoff team if the Cards give them Jones.

This draft is deep 2nd round wise.
This is definitely a good trade possibility if he falls that far.

 

[vikesfan]

JAX did want Fitz they just took R Williams.

 

[Billy Flynt]

Reggie Williams is a reach at #9. I guess it shows just how much Jax needs a receiver. I think Lee Evans is a better talent. Obviously no one wanted to trade up b/c Williams would have been there later.

 

[az jam]

Yeah I also think Reggie is a reach at #9 but that would be too low for Evans.
Surprised that Houston took D. Robinson thought they would either take Wilfork or maybe Harris.

 

[Evil Ash]

Interesting ... 3 Dbs taken in the top 10 and NO DLine taken thus far. I wonder if thats a good sign for the Cards in Rd 2.

The Steelers get their man at #11 ... Big Ben

 

[az jam]

Roethlisberger to the Steelers. Great move for Pittsburgh.

 

[Pariah]

Roethlisberger to the Steelers. Great move for Pittsburgh.

Yeah, it is. I hope we don't look back on this day in 20 years when Ben is being inducted to the Hall and think about what could have been.



"YOU'RE MY BOY, BEN!" -Frank the Tank, Old School (paraphrased)

 

[vikesfan]

Reggie Williams is the poor man's Fitz.

CBs are becoming more important in the NFL then ever before. Especially with the rule modification coming next year.

I know there is more to QBing then this but Ben's passes look the best of the 3.

There is going to be a great player available at 19 PLEASE MIKE TICE DON'T FREAKING BLOW IT.

 

[Evil Ash]

WOW! Vilma got taken a lot earlier than I thought he would

 

[vikesfan]

Yeah, it is. I hope we don't look back on this day in 20 years when Ben is being inducted to the Hall and think about what could have been.



"YOU'RE MY BOY, BEN!" -Frank the Tank, Old School (paraphrased)

No one is saying Ben or Taylor suck. You only have 1 pick a round you can't take every player that is going to be good. Just pray your pick doesn't bust!

 

[Pariah]

WOW! Vilma got taken way earlier than I thought he would

Surprised me, too. The wheels are coming off my mock...

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

Man, I thought the draft started at 11:00 MT time, so I've been messing with my laptop, then I hear on the news the Jacksonville is picking! Man, I'm an idiot, but WE GOT FITZ!

 

[Pariah]

No one is saying Ben or Taylor suck. You only have 1 pick a round you can't take every player that is going to be good. Just pray your pick doesn't bust!

WTF are you talking about? I never even implied that people thought Ben sucked (and never mentioned Taylor).

Really? The Cardinals can't draft every good player? Do tell.

I was simply expressing my opinion that I think this guy is going to be a great one and that I wished we'd taken him.

 

[az jam]

Yeah, it is. I hope we don't look back on this day in 20 years when Ben is being inducted to the Hall and think about what could have been.

If we win some super bowls under Denny we won't care if Ben makes the Hall of Fame

Surprised the Jets took Vilma. Lots of DTs and DEs still available.

 

[HookemCards]

Surprised me, too. The wheels are coming off my mock...

Mine too. I just hope that Harris and Wilfolk get taken soon.

 

[vikesfan]

Isn't Rivers a lot like Drew Brees, cerebral QB not the strongest arm etc...

 

[az jam]

Lee Evans at #13 wow!!!

Note to Vikesfan: Rivers looked awesome in the Senior Bowl. Very strong arm but unusual delivery.