Official NFL Combine Thread

[joeshmo]

Day of opposites.

1. WR's as a whole have a great 40 day, RB's on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Only 4 RB's that even break the 4.5 mark.

2. The top 2 RB's not even in the top 10 in the 40 or vertical. But Wells did kill it with his broad jump, moreno not so much.

3. While Moreno killed the 3 cone drill showing excellent agility at almost 220 lbs, were as Wells not so much.

4. Both showed good upper body strength though, and both will have to rely heavily on game tape which they ae lucky to have good game tape.

5. I thought the QB's looked bad for the most part. Stafford could have looked really good in this group, he made a mistake.

6. Donald Brown killed it in almost every category today, both in drills and measurements.

7. Larry English weighed in heavy and will be working with the DL group today, while Orakpo weighed in at 264 and will be working out with the LB's.

 

[Unsterblich856]

Think it won't be a stretch for Moreno to drop to us now?

 

[Stout]

Think it won't be a stretch for Moreno to drop to us now?

I'd take him in a heartbeat if he did.

 

[WildBB]

If we are smart and draft the BPA than I don't think we will get a running back in round 1. I think we get a back with similar value in round 2 as we would in round 1.

Andre Brown might not be a bad idea.

 

[WildBB]

Day of opposites.

1. WR's as a whole have a great 40 day, RB's on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Only 4 RB's that even break the 4.5 mark.

2. The top 2 RB's not even in the top 10 in the 40 or vertical. But Wells did kill it with his broad jump, moreno not so much.

It's a great yr. for WR's it seems.

 

[WildBB]

DJ Moore is a midget also. 5-8 7/8

That'll drop him out of the first.

 

[Brewster10]

If we are smart and draft the BPA than I don't think we will get a running back in round 1. I think we get a back with similar value in round 2 as we would in round 1.

Wells and Moreno are still on another level than the other guys. Don't let the combine overshadow 25-30 game films proving that..

Although, it is good that some other backs like Brown are stepping up allowing us to possibly pick one up later in the draft if we go another direction in round 1

 

[WildBB]

Wells and Moreno are still on another level than the other guys. Don't let the combine overshadow 25-30 game films proving that..

Although, it is good that some other backs like Brown are stepping up allowing us to possibly pick one up later in the draft if we go another direction in round 1

If you want him you'd have to pick him up at #31, IMO.

 

[Unsterblich856]

Andre Brown might not be a bad idea.

His stock has been shooting up since the Senior Bowl, now it seems like picking him in the 2nd wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

Oh, but let's not forget about Devin Moore. He held his own mini-combine Friday and ran an official 4.41. He'd be a guy I'd look at in the 4th.

 

[rode kardinaal]

Just curious, with the combine for the RB's out of the way and all. I know it's difficult (and pretty useless i guess) to compare classes, but where would the 'obvious' RB first rounders (Moreno, Wells, perhaps McCoy) rank if the obvious first rounders (McFadden, Mendenhall, Stewart) of last years' class would be in the mix also?

 

[Shogun]

Just curious, with the combine for the RB's out of the way and all. I know it's difficult (and pretty useless i guess) to compare classes, but where would the 'obvious' RB first rounders (Moreno, Wells, perhaps McCoy) rank if the obvious first rounders (McFadden, Mendenhall, Stewart) of last years' class would be in the mix also?

1. McFadden
2. Stewart
3. Mendenhall
3. Moreno
3. Wells
6. McCoy

 

[football karma]

DJ Moore is a midget also. 5-8 7/8

I still really like him at corner (dependent on who else is there at #31) -- very good punt returner as well

 

[football karma]

the first round this year for RBs might be like the first round last year for WRs --

none taken, but then a run starts on them in round 2.

Not to overemphasize the combine -- but if you are drafting in the #12 - #25 spot-- do you use a first round pick on a RB that might lack the footspeed to be better than average?

 

[Shogun]

the first round this year for RBs might be like the first round last year for WRs --

none taken, but then a run starts on them in round 2.

Not to overemphasize the combine -- but if you are drafting in the #12 - #25 spot-- do you use a first round pick on a RB that might lack the footspeed to be better than average?

Cedric Benson and Cadillac Williams weren't exactly fast, but they still taken in the lottery. Stephen Jackson went 24th (he should have went higher, but that 40 scared guys off). They were all over 4.5. Deangelo Williams was taken 27th

The thing is that teams will be disappointed if they actually expected them to be burners. Moreno and Wells were never expected to be sub-4.5 guys, but if they ran them great. Those expecting Beanie to run under 4.5 were fanboys. While Beanie got clean starts, Moreno had terrible starts. I really had no idea where he learned that.

If I like what I saw from one of the running backs and I'm in the 20s, I would take one.

PS - And chances are LeSean McCoy wouldn't have run that much faster either because one of his negatives is his long speed.

 

[DoTheDew]

the first round this year for RBs might be like the first round last year for WRs --

none taken, but then a run starts on them in round 2.

Not to overemphasize the combine -- but if you are drafting in the #12 - #25 spot-- do you use a first round pick on a RB that might lack the footspeed to be better than average?

I don't see Wells and Moreno slipping out of the 1st round in spite of their combine numbers. They were just too good in college.

 

[Shogun]

I think Moreno's 10 pound weight gain is slowing him down considerably as well.

 

[binkar]

I can't decide what I want this team to do in round 1. I would prefer to get a solid pass rusher if one of the top 2 RB's aren't around (unless McCoy really impresses in his workouts), but I am concerned that there will be a huge run on RB's in the Second round and by the time our pick is up we will be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I am not sold on Andre Brown simply because he wasn't very productive in college.

Although the Cards have there best roster in forever we still have some big needs.

A pass rusher
A RB
Offensive line depth
Depth in our Secondary
A TE

Some of these needs will obviously be solved in free agency, but the best way to build this team is to go with the best player available.

 

[rode kardinaal]

I don't know anything about the 2010 RB class, but what's the possibility of the team keeping Edge for another year? #31 might be a bit too high to go for a RB especially with the other needs and good players dropping, but #63 might be too late to get a decent replacement.

 

[Shogun]

Connor Barwin 4.56
Robert Ayers 4.80
Larry English 4.77
Everette Brown 4.63

Georgia Tech's Michael Johnson has a long ass neck. But fast with 4.66. Expected. He's a Combine All-Star.

Mitch King with 4.81.

Paul Kruger runs a 4.84, but had good pop out of the start.

 

[DoTheDew]

I don't know anything about the 2010 RB class, but what's the possibility of the team keeping Edge for another year? #31 might be a bit too high to go for a RB especially with the other needs and good players dropping, but #63 might be too late to get a decent replacement.

I like 2010's class better, Devine, the pair from USC, Spiller from Clemson, and a handful of others, many of whom are speed backs, could come in and contribute on this team.

 

[Shogun]

Aaron Maybin with a 4.78 after weighing in at 249. Niiiice.

 

[dylanbw]

Moreno has "it". I know some very dedicated Georgia fans who swear by Moreno's talent and especially his will to be the best. If he runs better than a 4.5 there is no way he lasts until the 31st pick. The only chance we have a getting him is with a first rounder we get in a Boldin trade.

Moreno is a great player and a guy who can be good even when he is not 100% healthy because he relies so much on instinct, great vision, and guts more than just pure speed.

UGA fan since the Herschel days and Moreno definitely has "it".....I don't care what he ran in the 40, just watch the game film, he can do it all....sadly, no way he is there at 31....if we do not trade up, then Donald Brown would be great at 31.....how many points a game will we score with an elite RB to add to our passing game? I know defense wins Championships but that a serious weapon at RB makes us nearly impossible to defend....

 

[Shogun]

DT Fili Moala with a 5.12.

Jarron Gilbert ran a 4.81

Orakpo has an insane burst - 4.63

Kyle Moore ran 4.84. He's worth a look later in the draft.

 

[Shogun]

BJ Raji rans 5.12

Dorell Scott,who been creeping up the boards ran a 4.90

Lawrence Sidbury just ran 4.58, so that secret's been leaked.

 

[Shogun]

Michael Johnson - 4.69
Paul Kruger - 4.91
Tyson Jackson - 4.91
Roy Miller - 5.02
SenDerrick Marks - 5.01
Stryker Sulak - 4.71
Veikune - 4.75