OT: Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins

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Anyone take notice that the "issue" wasn't even discussed, since the NFL Network is owned by the NFL (maybe). That 10 second reference by the sideline reporter was all that was mentioned.
 

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I heard that.. the only thing that shocked me is that Incognito is on the NFLPA Leadership Committee. How is the dirtiest player in football on the damn leadership committee?!

ESPN suggested that if true it would mean that Incognito was the person Martin was supposed to report to regarding such issues.

Like having a fox guard the hen house. Who do you go to if the person you are supposed to go to is the instigator?
 

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Incognito is an awful human being, what a shock!

Remember the photos of the hazing that Darnell Dockett put some of the rookies through? Shaved eyebrows and monk haircuts etc. This is the kind of hazing that builds team chemistry in sports, the military, fraternities etc. It builds unity amongst a group of incomers.

But when you have a maniac like Incognito involved, things get out of control. Trouble at Nebraska, trouble at Oregon, trouble at the combine, voted the dirtiest player in the NFL, baiting opponents into going after him and now riding a Stanford grad out of the league. I am amazed that he has gotten away with it for this long.
 

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Remember the photos of the hazing that Darnell Dockett put some of the rookies through? Shaved eyebrows and monk haircuts etc. This is the kind of hazing that builds team chemistry in sports, the military, fraternities etc. It builds unity amongst a group of incomers.

Can't even understand why anyone would do this to anyone else and call it good natured fun. Humiliation builds chemistry?
 

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ESPN suggested that if true it would mean that Incognito was the person Martin was supposed to report to regarding such issues.

Like having a fox guard the hen house. Who do you go to if the person you are supposed to go to is the instigator?

Incognito has a long track record of jerk-ness, dating back to his local highschool days here in the valley

That being said, one guy doesn't create a culture like that. It starts with the head coach and goes on down.
 

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You guys crack me up. Are you sure you wouldn't rather follow doubles tennis or quilt-making? This is supposed to be a MAN. Not a little schoolboy but a man. Pathetic. I'm so effing sick of hearing about this bullying crap all the damn time. It's called be parents. Instill in your children both compassion and self-respect. The **** that our country spends tax dollars and time worrying about is ridiculous. His teammates make fun of him. BFD. You're getting paid millions to play football, not patty cake with friends. Get your sorry, bitch ass back to work. He deserves to be bullied at this point. Roast away, femdems.
 
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You guys crack me up. Are you sure you wouldn't rather follow doubles tennis or quilt-making? This is supposed to be a MAN. Not a little schoolboy but a man. Pathetic. I'm so effing sick of hearing about this bullying crap all the damn time. It's called be parents. Instill in your children both compassion and self-respect. The **** that our country spends tax dollars and time worrying about is ridiculous. His teammates make fun of him. BFD. You're getting paid millions to play football, not patty cake with friends. Get your sorry, bitch ass back to work. He deserves to be bullied at this point. Roast away, femdems.

As is this post.
 

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There's also talk about Martin having mental health issues. You just don't know what's going on in his life. Nothing I hate more than a bully
 

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You guys crack me up. Are you sure you wouldn't rather follow doubles tennis or quilt-making? This is supposed to be a MAN. Not a little schoolboy but a man. Pathetic. I'm so effing sick of hearing about this bullying crap all the damn time. It's called be parents. Instill in your children both compassion and self-respect. The **** that our country spends tax dollars and time worrying about is ridiculous. His teammates make fun of him. BFD. You're getting paid millions to play football, not patty cake with friends. Get your sorry, bitch ass back to work. He deserves to be bullied at this point. Roast away, femdems.
Interestignn you bring up parenting when it seems to me that Martin is the only one who was raised right. He smartly turned the other cheek when being harassed and threatened by two really bad human beings.

He was being "bullied" by Incognito (basically the dirtiest player in the NFL with a history of assaults both off and on the field) and Mike Pouncey (best friends with Aaron Hernandez). If my co-workers were those dudes and they were all over me I'd run for the hills too. But perhaps you're right and Martin should have fought back. After all what's the worse that can happen facing off against those types of characters?
 
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Maybe it's time Martin thought about doing something other than football , it's a rough tuff sport . Martin reminds me of the breakdown soldier that Gen. George Patton slapped and called a gd coward .
 

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You guys crack me up. Are you sure you wouldn't rather follow doubles tennis or quilt-making? This is supposed to be a MAN. Not a little schoolboy but a man. Pathetic. I'm so effing sick of hearing about this bullying crap all the damn time. It's called be parents. Instill in your children both compassion and self-respect. The **** that our country spends tax dollars and time worrying about is ridiculous. His teammates make fun of him. BFD. You're getting paid millions to play football, not patty cake with friends. Get your sorry, bitch ass back to work. He deserves to be bullied at this point. Roast away, femdems.

Okay, I hope everyone in your professional life turns on you and makes your life a living hell. You deserve it, and you damn sure would be singing a different tune then. This is disgusting and wrong on so many levels. So cyberbullying of kids is cool, when everyone turns on them and publicly humiliates them, driving many to suicide, right? I've known of kids that have been chased after school and have had rocks thrown at them. But that's cool, right? I mean, they should just sack up and deal with it, yeah?

How's it feel to be BFF with Richie Incognito, dude?
 

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exactly and for what it's worth - that guy with the ivy league lineage and stanford degree who is a sissy would absolutely break you in half if it came to it

the justifications people put themselves through to justify improper workplace behavior is ridiculous .... but just like guys like little roided up fat boy richie need to pump up their self worth by trying to crap on others, so do so many in the population with people and circumstances they know little about
 

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Interestignn you bring up parenting when it seems to me that Martin is the only one who was raised right. He smartly turned the other cheek when being harassed and threatened by two really bad human beings.

He was being "bullied" by Incognito (basically the dirtiest player in the NFL with a history of assaults both off and on the field) and Mike Pouncey (best friends with Aaron Hernandez). If my co-workers were those dudes and they were all over me I'd run for the hills too. But perhaps you're right and Martin should have fought back. After all what's the worse that can happen facing off against those types of characters?

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Interestignn you bring up parenting when it seems to me that Martin is the only one who was raised right. He smartly turned the other cheek when being harassed and threatened by two really bad human beings.

He was being "bullied" by Incognito (basically the dirtiest player in the NFL with a history of assaults both off and on the field) and Mike Pouncey (best friends with Aaron Hernandez). If my co-workers were those dudes and they were all over me I'd run for the hills too. But perhaps you're right and Martin should have fought back. After all what's the worse that can happen facing off against those types of characters?

Good take. There seems to be many flawed psyches on NFL rosters. Martin might be the least flawed compared to some of these psychos.
 

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Maybe it's time Martin thought about doing something other than football , it's a rough tuff sport . Martin reminds me of the breakdown soldier that Gen. George Patton slapped and called a gd coward .

Let's no confuse the game on the field with what's appropriate behaviour between teammates.

Even back then "Blood and Guts" Patton's actions were sanctioned and he nearly lost his command...

P.S. "Our blood, our guts", was the saying amongst soldiers who fought under him.
 

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It really comes down to , stand up and be a man , or sit down and be a crybaby wimp .
 

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It really comes down to , stand up and be a man , or sit down and be a crybaby wimp .

Just that simple... got it.

Martin's decision to leave was not spur of the moment. He left, according to reports, after two years of continuous harrassement.
 
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Just that simple... got it.

Martin's decision to leave was not spur of the moment. He left, according to reports, after two years of continuous harrassement.

Joe Philbin, Jeff Ireland and Stephen Ross have a handle on this one. :bang:
 
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Report: Martin’s not the only Dolphin feeling pressured

He describes a culture of older players forcing younger teammates to pick up the tab, with one player being handed a bill for a $30,000 team dinner. “The veterans are using the younger players as an ATM, I’m told,” he reported.

He then retweeted a message from defensive tackle Jared Odrick which had a picture of a large dinner, with the message: “Everything tastes better when rookies pay for it.”

That dovetails with reports that Martin was somehow coerced into paying $15,000 toward a trip to Las Vegas that he didn’t attend.
 

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