OT: Kaepernick

[imaCafan]

Maybe we should raid the SF coaching staff and make the QB coach our OC....

 

[jmt]

So Kaepernick is a HOFer. But how does that help the Cardinals?

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I was intrigued by this kid coming out but he was no sure thing (and still isn't). Last night he showed progress but in the NFL you see it all the time where a guy has a really good game followed by a horrendous game.

He is young, mobile, has a cannon and has, in Whiz's terminology, "moxie". At the time he was drafter I would have liked the Cards to take a flyer on the kid but not as high as SF did.

Too soon to annoint but he looks like he has the tools to be really good.

I'll admit to being a Kaepernick homer, and I'm by no means "crowning him" But damn, When is the last time you saw one our QB's hit his third read multiple times? You can argue that the Niners better line creates that luxury.. but then you go back and watch the tape, and realize Kap created a lot of that extra time, by knowing what to do in a pocket.

 

[Buckybird]

I'll admit to being a Kaepernick homer, and I'm by no means "crowning him" But damn, When is the last time you saw one our QB's hit his third read multiple times?

2009?

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Leinart was doing it his rookie year until his shoulder got blowed up & he was never the same.

 

[john h]

Smith might not get his job back if Kaepernick keeps this up.

Maybe we should try and get Smith? Is he better than any of the rookies coming out in the draft? Is he worth a #1 pick of the Cards? I do not even know his age so this is just talk. SF looks like a Superbowl team to me. Not one but two good QBs and an awesome defense who are mostly young.

 

[Fitzy11]

Maybe we should try and get Smith? Is he better than any of the rookies coming out in the draft? Is he worth a #1 pick of the Cards? I do not even know his age so this is just talk. SF looks like a Superbowl team to me. Not one but two good QBs and an awesome defense who are mostly young.

without jim harbaugh, alex smith is nothing.

 

[Mitch]

There's a lot to like about Kaepernick---what he lacks for in throwing mechanics he makes up for in timing and in athleticism. He took some hits too---and it didn't seem to rattle him.

What I like about Harbaugh's statement---"we will go with the hot hand"---is that it is definitive and proactive rather than ambiguous or guarded.

Not that I am a Harbaugh fan, although honestly, I would be if he were on our side.

 

[Mitch]

without jim harbaugh, alex smith is nothing.

Add to that: their studs up front, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis and their cadre of good WRs.

 

[Buckybird]

and their cadre of good WRs.

That's not true, most everyone here has said the Niners WR corp is average & worse than the Redbirds unit lol

 

[Big D]

What I like about Harbaugh's statement---"we will go with the hot hand"---is that it is definitive and proactive rather than ambiguous or guarded.

I agree whole-heartedly. Harbaugh is bold and confident and outwardly projects that at all times. Contrast that with Whisenhunt's wishy-washy "we might have to look at doing that" or "I haven't made a decision yet" type of responses and it gives you a little bit of insight as to why as a leader of men one guy is having much more success than the other.

I honestly think Whis gives responses like that because he genuinely doesn't know the answers to the questions he is being asked. He can try to sell it as gamesmanship or playing his hand close to the vest all he wants but the results are starting to point to it being utter cluelessness on how to deal with certain adversities.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

2009?

Kurt rarely got to his third read.. He had one of the quickest releases in the league.. and he HAD to.

Leinart was doing it his rookie year until his shoulder got blowed up & he was never the same.

It's that rare shoulder injury, that also causes vision and decision making to suffer?

 

[Cheesebeef]

There's a lot to like about Kaepernick---what he lacks for in throwing mechanics he makes up for in timing and in athleticism. He took some hits too---and it didn't seem to rattle him.

What I like about Harbaugh's statement---"we will go with the hot hand"---is that it is definitive and proactive rather than ambiguous or guarded.

it's only definitive if he start Kaepernick, no? It's a COMPLETELY amibguous and guarded statement. You know what's not guarded and ambiguous? Simply saying: Kaepernick will continue to start for us.

 

[Big D]

it's only definitive if he start Kaepernick, no? It's a COMPLETELY amibguous and guarded statement. You know what's not guarded and ambiguous? Simply saying: Kaepernick will continue to start for us.

I don't really see it like that. The easiest thing in the world would have been for Harbaugh to say well we'll have to evalute Smith's health this week and see how he looks in practice before I can make any kind of decision, a player doesn't lose his job becaue of injury, ect ect. He took the whole injury situation out of the equation entirely and flat out said he's going with the guy that is hot right now.

While Harbaugh did stop short of saying that is Kaepernick I think it's fairly obvious given the guy just lit up one of the top defenses in the NFL like a Christmas tree last night that is the way he is going to go.

 

[Duckjake]

I'll admit to being a Kaepernick homer, and I'm by no means "crowning him" But damn, When is the last time you saw one our QB's hit his third read multiple times? You can argue that the Niners better line creates that luxury.. but then you go back and watch the tape, and realize Kap created a lot of that extra time, by knowing what to do in a pocket.

I have a question about "reads" when Skelton first started for the Cardinals he was throwing to Roberts a lot. Lindley was throwing to Doucet. Now was Doucet the primary receiver for Lindley instead of Fitz or Roberts? That could have been by design say if the coaches thought Lindley was more comfortable with Early. Or was Lindley throwing to his 3rd read as if it were his 1st read?

 

[Duckjake]

I'll admit to being a Kaepernick homer, and I'm by no means "crowning him" But damn, When is the last time you saw one our QB's hit his third read multiple times? You can argue that the Niners better line creates that luxury.. but then you go back and watch the tape, and realize Kap created a lot of that extra time, by knowing what to do in a pocket.

I have a question about "reads" when Skelton first started for the Cardinals he was throwing to Roberts a lot. Lindley was throwing to Doucet. Now was Doucet the primary receiver for Lindley instead of Fitz or Roberts? That could have been by design say if the coaches thought Lindley was more comfortable with Early. Or was Lindley throwing to his 3rd read as if it were his 1st read? Or was Lindley actually getting to his third read which was Doucet?

 

[Mitch]

I don't really see it like that. The easiest thing in the world would have been for Harbaugh to say well we'll have to evalute Smith's health this week and see how he looks in practice before I can make any kind of decision, a player doesn't lose his job becaue of injury, ect ect. He took the whole injury situation out of the equation entirely and flat out said he's going with the guy that is hot right now.

While Harbaugh did stop short of saying that is Kaepernick I think it's fairly obvious given the guy just lit up one of the top defenses in the NFL like a Christmas tree last night that is the way he is going to go.

You are right on because Harbaugh went on to say that "we have no rules"...as in the old starter can't lose his job due to injury rule.

That's refreshing, imo.

 

[Russ Smith]

I told you guys weeks ago the local media was saying it might not be that long, next year for sure we're he's threatening Smith's job.

He's not polished yet but what they like is his stronger arm it opens more stuff of play action.

He's REALLY improved since they drafted him.

 

[Russ Smith]

There's a lot to like about Kaepernick---what he lacks for in throwing mechanics he makes up for in timing and in athleticism. He took some hits too---and it didn't seem to rattle him.

What I like about Harbaugh's statement---"we will go with the hot hand"---is that it is definitive and proactive rather than ambiguous or guarded.

Not that I am a Harbaugh fan, although honestly, I would be if he were on our side.

And not that long ago you were saying Smith was playing well because Harbaugh committed to him and made it clear he had. I pointed out then he hadn't and that it wasn't that long before Kaepernick might take the job.

 

[Duckjake]

And not that long ago you were saying Smith was playing well because Harbaugh committed to him and made it clear he had. I pointed out then he hadn't and that it wasn't that long before Kaepernick might take the job.

Heard Tedford was fired today. Who's next for Cal?

 

[Mitch]

And not that long ago you were saying Smith was playing well because Harbaugh committed to him and made it clear he had. I pointed out then he hadn't and that it wasn't that long before Kaepernick might take the job.

I took heat this pre-season for saying Kaepernick was going to get some good PT this year in SF.

Look---you know you and I see football in a totally different way---we have never agreed about anything---

I am not saying I am right and you are wrong---but, I get it---I am wrong and you are right. You win...there! Now go and win against someone else.

 

[splitsecond]

I will reserve judgment for when there is actually tape for teams to prepare with.

 

[machgman]

Ryan Lindley was a career 55% passer which included many non-powerhouse opponents and creampuffs.

Based on his pre-season and Falcon's performance, there is nothing to make anyone think (except for Whisenhut) that Lindley can suddenly develop into a mid 65% passer with any accuracy beyond the 25-30 yard pass since he completed very few of those in college. If Lindley stays consistent with his college abilities, he won't be long as a starter or a prospect.

And to think the Cards could have drafted Kaepernick two years ago.

 

[Shane]

Ryan Lindley was a career 55% passer which included many non-powerhouse opponents and creampuffs.

Based on his pre-season and Falcon's performance, there is nothing to make anyone think (except for Whisenhut) that Lindley can suddenly develop into a mid 65% passer with any accuracy beyond the 25-30 yard pass since he completed very few of those in college. If Lindley stays consistent with his college abilities, he won't be long as a starter or a prospect.

And to think the Cards could have drafted Kaepernick two years ago.

Do you have a quote showing Whiz said he expects he can turn into a mid 65% passer??

 

[Jetstream Green]

Heard Tedford was fired today. Who's next for Cal?

hmmmm...Tedford to coach QBs might not hurt, Cards have needs

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I will reserve judgment for when there is actually tape for teams to prepare with.

It's not like we are talking about Tebow here.. Kap is not a gimmick (sans Ault's pistol lol)

What does this game tape tell you if your game planning for next week? He's mobile, patient... has a great arm, nice touch.. and he's pretty damn elusive.
Oh.. and he carved up the Bears better than average defense. Will he play like this every time he takes the field? nope, But I'd bet anything he plays like he did last week more times than not.

I was praying we would draft this kid... and he ends up in the worst place possible.