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What do you think Child support pays for?

1. Housing
2. Clothes
3. Food
4. Medical expenses
5. Schooling
6. transportation
etc etc

72k is not enough to support the child in a lifestyle that the child would have with Matt making millions. That child deserves to have everything Matt has, and by extension so does the mother of their child.

As a person that pays child support, I know what it covers, and I seriously doubt Matt is trying to deprive his child of anything seeing how he is fighting for custody.

I do believe though that he doesn't owe the mom ANYTHING and this is probably what he takes issue with. He had a baby, he should support the kid, not the mom and I think that is where people aren't distinguishing the two.
 

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If you want the child to have that lifestyle then why not just give Matt the custody he seeks?

The Mom would still be the primary care-giver, even if Matt gets what he is asking for.

Once again, people are forgetting this is a child support case involving wealthy families. It's a different level than 99% of America can relate to.
 

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72k is not enough to support the child in a lifestyle that the child would have with Matt making millions. That child deserves to have everything Matt has, and by extension so does the mother of their child.

The law states that the other parent still remains obligated to pay a proportion of the costs involved in raising the child and that Child support is paid by the noncustodial parent to ensure that their children have what they need to live a comfortable life.

The mother doesn't factor into squat, she still needs to pay her share. All Matt has to do is ensure the child is comfortable. She's a gold digger
 

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The law states that the other parent still remains obligated to pay a proportion of the costs involved in raising the child and that Child support is paid by the noncustodial parent to ensure that their children have what they need to live a comfortable life.

The mother doesn't factor into squat, she still needs to pay her share. All Matt has to do is ensure the child is comfortable. She's a gold digger
Her share (in AZ) is based on what % of their combined income she makes. I don't feel like doing the math, but if she makes 60k & Matt makes millions...her share is squat.
 

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The law states that the other parent still remains obligated to pay a proportion of the costs involved in raising the child and that Child support is paid by the noncustodial parent to ensure that their children have what they need to live a comfortable life.

The mother doesn't factor into squat, she still needs to pay her share. All Matt has to do is ensure the child is comfortable. She's a gold digger

Here's a child-support calculator for California that earthsci posted.


http://www.west.net/~ivguy/testcalc.html

No matter how you tweak this thing, you are not going to get 72k which Matt is currently paying. In fact, it looks like she is asking for considerably less than it says the child is entitled to.
 

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Her share (in AZ) is based on what % of their combined income she makes. I don't feel like doing the math, but if she makes 60k & Matt makes millions...her share is squat.

Which is absolutely wrong, even though it's the law. The money never goes solely towards the kids.
 

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Which is absolutely wrong, even though it's the law. The money never goes solely towards the kids.
Well, sometimes it works out crappy for the person w/custody, too. My ex got hit with a whopping $175 (total--2 kids--which I'm not seeing anyway) per month because I make all the money. :roll:
 
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This is getting brutal if true.. Even requesting a paternity test..

Baby Mama Forcing QB Out of the Pocket?
Posted Jul 24th 2007 6:10PM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Celebrity Justice

He's taken on some of the biggest, baddest men on the planet, but it's his baby mama who's hitting football stud Matt Leinart where it hurts the most -- his wallet!

TMZ has learned that the NFL pretty boy is locked in a raging legal fight with his ex-girlfriend, Brynn Cameron, over the couple's 9-month-old son Cole. According to sources close to the case, Brynn wants Matt to hand over more than $30,000 per month! That's a ton of jack for a 21-year-old living with her parents! According to sources close to the case, Leinart's pissed -- having already bought her a car, as well as voluntarily giving her around six grand a month. Leinart signed a six-year deal with the Arizona Cardinals in 2006 -- reportedly worth around $51 million.We're told Leinart's also waging a "gung-ho" battle for custody, and recently filed a petition to establish paternity. Sources tell TMZ that the former USC star already "comes back to L.A. once a week, every week, to see the baby," but he wants a schedule where he can see the kid in Arizona as well. Unlike most pro athlete dads who have kids out of wedlock, we're told Matt is an engaged father who wants to be in his son's life.

But Cameron claims she's doing all the hard work when it comes to parenting, telling the Ventura County Star that Leinart "comes and goes whenever he wants ... he likes that Hollywood stuff and I don't like that."

The two are scheduled to hammer it out in court on August 13. Attempts to contact Cameron were unsuccessful.


http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/24/baby-mama-forcing-qb-out-of-the-pocket/

I guess the papers only got ahold of this story because Brynn let out all this to the media herself.. Sounds like she's doing all this for more money..
 

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Here's a child-support calculator for California that earthsci posted.


http://www.west.net/~ivguy/testcalc.html

No matter how you tweak this thing, you are not going to get 72k which Matt is currently paying. In fact, it looks like she is asking for considerably less than it says the child is entitled to.


I do not know how they are coming up with this calculation on this calculator but I live in California and I input my information in there and I can tell you that calculator is no where near what the courts tell you... It tells me I should be paying half of what I am currently paying.
 

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That thing is just wacky after messing with it if the mother makes 4 mill a year and the father makes 1.5 mill a year the father owes 125k a year. All while having the child 10% of the time...

If the mother makes 40k and all the other factors are the same, the amount the father owes is 178k...



Father's Monthly Net Income:$1500000
Mother's Monthly Net Income:$4000000
Father's Custodial Time:10 %
Number of Supported Children:1

Results

Father pays Mother:$ 125552

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Yep....if it was really all about the kid, none of this would be in the press.
Now THAT I agree with.

And I think the whole establishing paternity on Matt's part is probably something he HAS to do to fight for more visitation. If his name isn't on the birth certificate, how could he fight a court case to see a child that legally isn't "his"?
 

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What do you think Child support pays for?

1. Housing
2. Clothes
3. Food
4. Medical expenses
5. Schooling
6. transportation
etc etc

72k is not enough to support the child in a lifestyle that the child would have with Matt making millions. That child deserves to have everything Matt has, and by extension so does the mother of their child.

Wrong. 72k is more than enough to pay for MATT'S share of the support. 72k a year may not pay for a million dollar house, but if you combine that with the money that the mother should be making as well, and it is plenty. 72k is more than I make to support 4 in my family, and eventhough I not living the high life, I'm not poor either.
 

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The law states that the other parent still remains obligated to pay a proportion of the costs involved in raising the child and that Child support is paid by the noncustodial parent to ensure that their children have what they need to live a comfortable life.

The mother doesn't factor into squat, she still needs to pay her share. All Matt has to do is ensure the child is comfortable. She's a gold digger


How is she a gold digger...According to the law, 72k is chicken feed based on his income. Neither one of us know intentions. She could be out for money, but even if she is that child desrves everything Matt has...end of story.
 

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Wrong. 72k is more than enough to pay for MATT'S share of the support. 72k a year may not pay for a million dollar house, but if you combine that with the money that the mother should be making as well, and it is plenty. 72k is more than I make to support 4 in my family, and eventhough I not living the high life, I'm not poor either.

Doesnt matter...the child is entitled to live just as comfortably as Matt does. So that means the support will be based on his salary. Thems the facts!
 

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Doesnt matter...the child is entitled to live just as comfortably as Matt does. So that means the support will be based on his salary. Thems the facts!

If what I read is true and Matt voluntarily pays 6,000 a month to the girl then that kid will easily live as comfortable as Matt. No question about it. No need for a judge to come in and award some rediculous 20,000 dollar a month settlement. There just isnt. Child support is WAY out of control in the country.
 

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If what I read is true and Matt voluntarily pays 6,000 a month to the girl then that kid will easily live as comfortable as Matt. No question about it. No need for a judge to come in and award some rediculous 20,000 dollar a month settlement. There just isnt. Child support is WAY out of control in the country.

Out of control? What is out of control is the number of dead beat dads out there, and courts who award amounts as low as $50 a child. I am suprised at how many people on here take that view....
 

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Out of control? What is out of control is the number of dead beat dads out there, and courts who award amounts as low as $50 a child. I am suprised at how many people on here take that view....

I agree that is a shame as well. But the % of dads that quite frankly get screwed is unreal.
 

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Son’s Name On Tip Of Matt Leinart’s Tongue

GLENDALE, AZ--In a recent interview on ESPN, Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart spoke at length about how the joys of fatherhood have changed his life. The 24-year-old now spends his time changing diapers, giving baths, and strolling through the neighborhood with his 10-month old son, whose name was on the tip of his tongue for the entire interview.

“It’s been a life changing experience,” Leinart said. “I never thought I would see the day when I would be changing diapers, you know? And waking up in the middle of the night to stop him from crying, and all that other crazy stuff that goes along with being a father? It’s just been so much fun. I’ve really grown as a person ever since Cody was born. Carl. No, wait…******* it, it’s on the tip of my tongue. Matt Jr? No, it’s something with a ‘C.’ Anyway, let’s talk about something else. Once I stop thinking about if for a second it will come to me.”

Later in the interview, Leinart tried once again to recall his son’s name but was unsuccessful.

“Ah, it’s driving me nuts!” Leinart chuckled. “I know this kid’s name, I swear to God. It’s like, it’s in my head, it’s right there on the tip on my tongue, but it won’t come out! I guess I’m just getting old. Oh well, I’ll come up with it sooner or later. I’ll just have to call his mother and ask her. Wait a minute. What’s her name? Just kidding! Of course I know her name. Me and her go way back.”

Since the birth of his son, Leinart has been spotted in public on numerous occasions partying with the likes of Nick Lachey, Britney Spears, and Maria Sharapova. Though he spends an inordinate amount of time hobnobbing with the rich and famous, Leinart insists it doesn’t get in the way of fatherhood.

“Being a father to Kyle is my top priority,” Leinart said. “All that other stuff - going to parties, showing up on red carpets, nailing starlets – it’s just what I do in my spare time. I make sure that I have plenty of ‘dad’ time during the week. For instance, last week, while I was hanging out at the ESPYs after-party, I had the presence of mind to call home and have Brynn put the phone to the kid’s ear and I was like ‘Hi, honey! It’s daddy! I’m at Skybar! I love you!’ Then I put Diddy on the phone and he was like ‘Yo!’ So right there I’m giving my son memories that he can cherish for a lifetime.”

The mother of Leinart’s son, Brynn Cameron, has a different opinion of Leinart as a father, however. She recently told the Arizona Republic that Leinart is largely absent as a dad, and that his priorities are in Hollywood, not at home with the baby.

“Matt is full of ****,” Cameron said. “He’s never around. He doesn’t change any diapers. He doesn’t really do anything. I do all the heavy lifting while he runs around in Hollywood with his vapid friends. The saddest thing here is that when the baby gets older I’m going to have to break the news to him that his father is a mimbo. I just hope he doesn’t fall into the same trap. In fact, if he ever utters the words ‘Nick’ and ‘Lachey’ and they are not followed by ‘is an enormous *****,’ we’re moving to another country.”

With the 2007 football season just weeks away, Leinart will be spending even less time with his family as he concentrates fully on leading his team to the playoffs and socializing. But according to Leinart, that’s one of the drawbacks of being a professional athlete.

“It’s tough being a football player sometimes because it can get in the way of your family life,” he said. “That’s part of the business though. Between practices, scrimmages, games, and parties, I probably won’t have a helluva lot of time to spend with the baby. Oh well! What are you gonna do? If he didn’t want to be neglected by his superstar dad, he should never have been born in the first place.”


http://www.thebrushback.com
 

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Your using Namath as example to bolster your arguement? :biglaugh:

jus sayin all athletes do it and everyone grows up looking up to those athletes. It's been that way for a long time. Complaining that he nails hotties all the time is a sensless arguement.
 

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jus sayin all athletes do it and everyone grows up looking up to those athletes. It's been that way for a long time. Complaining that he nails hotties all the time is a sensless arguement.

This why I feel me and Matt have so much in common.. All these hotties so little time.. Its a full time job.. The main reason I never became a pro athlete, I have dedicated my life to fulfilling womens fantasys.. Im not selfish like Matt in this.. I beleive letting all the fine ladies of this world enjoy me and my time.. The life of a pro athlete would be too taxing and it would leave the ladies feeling left out..
 
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