OT: Max Hall Arrested

[clif]

Who the heck wakes up and thinks cocaine is the answer to life's problems?


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[ajcardfan]

Who the heck wakes up and thinks cocaine is the answer to life's problems?


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You have no clue on the reality of being an addict if you think your question has any context within addiction. Just be glad you aren't an addict and move on.

 

[Darkside]

Sad? Sad!? To hell with that. This is freaking hilarious. I'm sorry I have no sympathy for thieves. To top it off he was using cocaine? Really? Who does that? Was his life that hard?


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I don't have sympathy either, he'll get what he deserves, but who are any of us to judge whether his life is "hard" without even knowing the dude?

To most of us working stiffs maybe his life looked simple, but for anyone in life it's difficult to give up on a life's dream and be told you don't have what it takes. I think it's even harder when former players like him hang around the game afterward--being constantly reminded of his failure.

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[Shaggy]

I don't have sympathy either, he'll get what he deserves, but who are any of us to judge whether his life is "hard" without even knowing the dude?

To most of us working stiffs maybe his life looked simple, but for anyone in life it's difficult to give up on a life's dream and be told you don't have what it takes. I think it's even harder when former players like him hang around the game afterward--being constantly reminded of his failure.

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I don't consider him a failure. He made it to a starting NFL qb position when he really physically shouldn't have. I don't call that failing. I call that persevering.

 

[Darkside]

I don't consider him a failure. He made it to a starting NFL qb position when he really physically shouldn't have. I don't call that failing. I call that persevering.

Agreed but what you and he consider failure may be completely different.

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[clif]

You have no clue on the reality of being an addict if you think your question has any context within addiction. Just be glad you aren't an addict and move on.

He's an addict now?!


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[AzStevenCal]

He's an addict now?!


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It's an assumption but yes, if he's stealing in order to buy cocaine, he's an addict.

Steve

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Who the heck wakes up and thinks cocaine is the answer to life's problems?

Doesn't have to be used for that. I've known people (some very successful) who started because.... it felt great.

 

[Darkside]

It's an assumption but yes, if he's stealing in order to buy cocaine, he's an addict.

Steve

Didn't read the article, was he stealing to buy coke? Last I heard on the radio he stole about $200 worth of goods, that won't buy a lot of coke. My assumption was that he was coked out and did something stupid(er). Now he's an addict stealing for more product.

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[Darkside]

Doesn't have to be used for that. I've known people (some very successful) who started because.... it felt great.

Truth.

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[ajcardfan]

Didn't read the article, was he stealing to buy coke? Last I heard on the radio he stole about $200 worth of goods, that won't buy a lot of coke. My assumption was that he was coked out and did something stupid. Now he's an addict stealing for more product.

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Non-addicts don't have their drug in the car or, or drive on it, and don't steal to buy it.


Yeah, I guess there is some kind of chance that this was the first or second time he ever got high. But, I'd bet my house and your house that is not the case here. When you get to this point, there are usually years of using in front of it.

 

[Darkside]

Non-addicts don't have their drug in the car or, or drive on it, and don't steal to buy it.


Yeah, I guess there is some kind of chance that this was the first or second time he ever got high. But, I'd bet my house and your house that is not the case here. When you get to this point, there are usually years of using in front of it.

I don't buy this, but what I will say is non-addicts normally don't use alone. I've done pretty much everything recreationally back in the day, but it was always to have "fun" and with other mofos around.

I still don't buy the assumption that he was stealing cell-phone cases to fuel a coke habit though. Given the evidence I think that's a reach. I do agree that it's most likely not his first or second time. Nobody gets busted their first time. And nobody goes out in their BYU shirt to steal while high if it's their first time. Guess he wanted us to know he was THE Max Hall.

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[ajcardfan]

I don't buy this, but what I will say is non-addicts normally don't use alone. I've done pretty much everything recreationally back in the day, but it was always to have "fun" and with other mofos around.

I still don't buy the assumption that he was stealing cell-phone cases to fuel a coke habit though. Given the evidence I think that's a reach. I do agree that it's most likely not his first or second time. Nobody gets busted their first time. And nobody goes out in their BYU shirt to steal while high if it's their first time. Guess he wanted us to know he was THE Max Hall.

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Congrats on not being an addict yourself. To non-addicts, the behavior of addicts is incomprehensible.


FWIW, as addicts progress in their use, most do wind up using alone.

 

[desertdawg]

Max Hall? When you got money left over after your dreams wash away, I reckon that's when the party starts. Cocaine blows, I hope the midget figures that out quickly. The BYU shirt is hilarious though.

 

[Darkside]

Congrats on not being an addict yourself. To non-addicts, the behavior of addicts is incomprehensible.


FWIW, as addicts progress in their use, most do wind up using alone.

Regarding your last point, that's why I said non-addicts don't use alone in the beginning of my post. I was trying to throw a bone dude. Incomplete obviously. That being said, I'd rather not believe he's some addict stealing best buy phone cases to peddle to some dealer so he can get a fix. Until the evidence proves otherwise I'd rather think he's just an idiot rather than some addict.

Oh and as far as not being an addict, as I said that was 20 years ago or longer. There's a difference between trying something for recreation and needing it to mask issues. Huge difference.



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[desertdawg]

The question than becomes was the midget jacking the phone because he didn't have any Robert Deniro, or did he just not want to purchase a "burner phone" on his credit card out of pure paranoia? Many dealers accept burner phones as street trade, this is Breaking Bad 101. I doubt Max is out of money, so this is where the common sense train takes me initially. My noodle thinks he needed the phone to call some ********, it's the most plausible thought I got on this miniature's escapade. I doubt he was going to use the phone to score some blow... or to call and get some... because he already had some blow. What do you do with a bunch of blow and a burner phone and I'm assuming a Hotel card was on his person too but I'm just guessing there. The magnificent mini-man was gonna get freaky deaky, he couldn't purchase the phone on his card because he just withdrew a bunch to score the blow, kinda hard to explain on the monthly credit card bill. It was the perfect plan...

EDIT!! Holy guacomoly, I just read the report and wow, needles? That's just sad, I hope he's on his way to rehab right now.

 

[ajcardfan]

Regarding your last point, that's why I said non-addicts don't use alone in the beginning of my post. I was trying to throw a bone dude. Incomplete obviously. That being said, I'd rather not believe he's some addict stealing best buy phone cases to peddle to some dealer so he can get a fix. Until the evidence proves otherwise I'd rather think he's just an idiot rather than some addict.

Oh and as far as not being an addict, as I said that was 20 years ago or longer. There's a difference between trying something for recreation and needing it to mask issues. Huge difference.



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This behavior and arrest screams "addict". I don't know how the guy is better off being an "idiot". Being an addict is a problem you can do something about. Being an idiot is uncurable.

 

[Darkside]

This behavior and arrest screams "addict". I don't know how the guy is better off being an "idiot". Being an addict is a problem you can do something about. Being an idiot is uncurable.

I didn't mean his idiocy was his natural disposition, only that he was an idiot while high. You seem hell-bent on proving that he's an addict or being right or just starting an argument. I have no side in this issue, only that I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. What's your stance on DWash anyway, are you just as hell-bent on that, or only former players who suck?

 

[CFLredzoned]

EDIT!! Holy guacomoly, I just read the report and wow, needles? That's just sad, I hope he's on his way to rehab right now.

Yeah I heard that too. A needle and a spoon. That's a whole different level than recreation.

 

[Darkside]

Yeah I heard that too. A needle and a spoon. That's a whole different level than recreation.

Pretty hardcore. In his car even. I agree that's someone out of control. Disappointing and sad for him.

 

[ajcardfan]

I didn't mean his idiocy was his natural disposition, only that he was an idiot while high. You seem hell-bent on proving that he's an addict or being right or just starting an argument. I have no side in this issue, only that I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. What's your stance on DWash anyway, are you just as hell-bent on that, or only former players who suck?

Anyone who can't stop smoking dope who KNOWS 100%, that they will be tested, has an issue. Yes, that is addictive behavior, DWash needs help just like Max Hall does. You seem to attach a lot more "stigma" to the word addict than I do. Some of the very best people I've ever known in my life are addicts. They behave much better sober, than high. As they would readily tell you.

It has nothing to do with current player or former player for me.

 

[AZCrazy]

180 degree paradigm shift on this guy. Thought he was an inspiration, even though he didn't win. Now, just another douche. Pathetic.

 

[Darkside]

Anyone who can't stop smoking dope who KNOWS 100%, that they will be tested, has an issue. Yes, that is addictive behavior, DWash needs help just like Max Hall does. You seem to attach a lot more "stigma" to the word addict than I do. Some of the very best people I've ever known in my life are addicts. They behave much better sober, than high. As they would readily tell you.

It has nothing to do with current player or former player for me.

Fair enough. I've known a few addicts, but they weren't the best people I've known in my life. They had serious issues, every one of them. So if that's why I place a "stigma" on them that's why. They weren't bad people, mind you, just troubled, emotionally and intellectually.

 

[TJ]

Fair enough. I've known a few addicts, but they weren't the best people I've known in my life. They had serious issues, every one of them. So if that's why I place a "stigma" on them that's why. They weren't bad people, mind you, just troubled, emotionally and intellectually.

Many addicts remain addicts because of the stigma that is placed on them by people who quite frankly dont understand their daily struggle.

Addicts need help, not labels.

 

[Hollywood]

I dont think he made as much as some of you think he made. Whats the pay for an undrafted rookie? Couple hundred thousand. I know for a fact that he bought a new house. That would wipe out a 150k if he paid cash for it.