OT: NBA Finals: Cavs v. Warriors

[GatorAZ]

Lebron is 0-3 in Game 1 of the NBA Finals.

Cavs are going to win Game 2.

The Warriors are gonna blow em out and go for the kill shot.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Screw LBJ. Go Warriors !!

 

[Russ Smith]

Most frustrating part of the game for me was finally solved in the 3rd quarter by the refs. Cleveland was tryign to take away Curry and the inbouns after made baskets by face guarding him. Got one steal, took away the break, but to do it, they were blatantly delaying the game, knocking the ball away, and Thompson kept intentionally stopping players from stepping out of bounds with the blal so they could inbound ,or "guarding" the pass as they tried to throw it out of bounds so they could inbound it.

3rd quarter he blocked Green from doing it again, hooked his leg as he was tryign to step out. The ref warned him sternly and after that, no more "accidentally" getting in the way.

THe warriors were then able to inbound and advance it quicker.

It's tough, LeBron can use that off arm all game but I thought Barnes and Iggy played really well on him.

 

[elindholm]

Lebron is 0-3 in Game 1 of the NBA Finals.

Isn't this his 6th trip? Once earlier with Cleveland and four times with the Heat.

 

[az jam]

If Irving misses time that will kill the Cavs chances.

 

[SirStefan32]

LeBron chocked in the 4th quarter and OT... shocking!

I can't help but think how good Jordan would be in today's NBA where he can push defenders all day long, but they are not allowed to get near him without having fouls called on them.

 

[Russ Smith]

LeBron chocked in the 4th quarter and OT... shocking!

I can't help but think how good Jordan would be in today's NBA where he can push defenders all day long, but they are not allowed to get near him without having fouls called on them.

I think LeBron just got tired, he missed the last shot of regulation, in the OT he clearly had less lift.

They were lucky to get to OT, if Curry dunks instead of finger rolling, Irving doesn't block his shot and the Warriors win. So Cleveland played really well and LeBron went nuts, and they still lost.

LeBron is too good, he'll probably win at least one game by himself, he might win 2, but not being able to steal the game last night is huge.

If Irving can't play it really hurts their offense, Dellavadova might be a better defender, and maybe he'll accidentally fall into another key guy and hurt him, but without Irving they're going to have a hard time scoring enough to win 4 games.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think LeBron just got tired, he missed the last shot of regulation, in the OT he clearly had less lift.

They were lucky to get to OT, if Curry dunks instead of finger rolling, Irving doesn't block his shot and the Warriors win.

Curry doesn't have that kind of lift to dunk off the dribble in the 48th minute of the game. Truth is, if the refs didn't call that completely BS travel on Mosgov when he hit the layup with 30 seconds left, the Cavs win and Irving doesn't get hurt.

And LeBron choked Stefan? Come on. The guy put that entire team on his back the whole game. Missing one shot in the fourth then being gassed in OT ain't choking.

But, without Irving, sadly this series is going to be a sweep. Too bad... because if Game 1 was an indicator of the rest of the series, this was going to be epic.

 

[FArting]

Isn't this his 6th trip? Once earlier with Cleveland and four times with the Heat.

Past 3 Game 1's

2014
2013
2012

 

[Russ Smith]

Curry doesn't have that kind of lift to dunk off the dribble in the 48th minute of the game. Truth is, if the refs didn't call that completely BS travel on Mosgov when he hit the layup with 30 seconds left, the Cavs win and Irving doesn't get hurt.

And LeBron choked Stefan? Come on. The guy put that entire team on his back the whole game. Missing one shot in the fourth then being gassed in OT ain't choking.

But, without Irving, sadly this series is going to be a sweep. Too bad... because if Game 1 was an indicator of the rest of the series, this was going to be epic.

he said in the postgame he should have dunked. I agree he's not a leaper but he's nearly 6'4", he can at least attack the rim harder. He said he didn't expect Irving to be able to catch up.

Mozgov walked, they were looking at the wrong part of the play. When he caught the pass from LeBron he "collided" with 2 Warriors. Now maybe they fouled him, maybe he fouled them I don't know. but no foul was called and to gather himself from that collision, he moved both feet. At that point he's already taken 2 steps, and has no pivot foot. If he goes straight up not a problem, if he passes, not a problem, but if he makes a move either way as he did, that's a walk. They were all watching the actual reverse pivot part of the move and forgetting he'd already moved both feet.

There's a whole thread on reddit about that play that I saw linked earlier today. One guy insists it's not a walk for the reason you did, and then tons of people cite the rule. They're all debating if he came down to a clean jumpstop or moved one foot then the other etc. Nobody seemed to have a link to it but when I watched it live I said walk right away. The replays showed what I saw, if they don't call a foul,it's a walk.

now they could have called a foul on the Warriors, frankly they could have called a foul on Mozgov he collided with a guy outside the circle.

The problem with that walk is it was not consistent, LeBron walks on his postup constantly, no call. Curry walked on one of his stepback J's late, no call. Irving walks on his euro step drives, Bogut walks etc. Klay Thompson walked then drew a foul. All night long they ignored walks and then called that one.

You can debate calls all night. LeBron comes over Iggy's back, elbow hits him in face, they call the foul on Iggy. LeBron uses elbow to get room against iggy, catches pass, backs down uses eblow again knocks him off. Then as Iggy is coming back to get close, Lebron goes up into him, Iggy fouls. Hell LeBron committed 3 fouls in the first quarter, they called 1 when Barnes got the steal and LeBron ran into him and he was still arguing that call 5 minutes later.

But the travel call was odd because they hadn't called it all night.

 

[TJ]

Screw LBJ. Go Warriors !!

Just so you're aware, you're rooting for the team that is loaded with

Just sayin'

 

[FArting]

Kyrie is out for the rest of the Finals.

http://fox8.com/2015/06/05/kyrie-ir...he-nba-finals-with-a-fractured-left-knee-cap/

 

[az jam]

Kyrie is out for the rest of the Finals.

http://fox8.com/2015/06/05/kyrie-ir...he-nba-finals-with-a-fractured-left-knee-cap/

That is it for the Cavs. Not enough support for LeBron.

 

[SO91]

he said in the postgame he should have dunked. I agree he's not a leaper but he's nearly 6'4", he can at least attack the rim harder. He said he didn't expect Irving to be able to catch up.

Mozgov walked, they were looking at the wrong part of the play. When he caught the pass from LeBron he "collided" with 2 Warriors. Now maybe they fouled him, maybe he fouled them I don't know. but no foul was called and to gather himself from that collision, he moved both feet. At that point he's already taken 2 steps, and has no pivot foot. If he goes straight up not a problem, if he passes, not a problem, but if he makes a move either way as he did, that's a walk. They were all watching the actual reverse pivot part of the move and forgetting he'd already moved both feet.

There's a whole thread on reddit about that play that I saw linked earlier today. One guy insists it's not a walk for the reason you did, and then tons of people cite the rule. They're all debating if he came down to a clean jumpstop or moved one foot then the other etc. Nobody seemed to have a link to it but when I watched it live I said walk right away. The replays showed what I saw, if they don't call a foul,it's a walk.

now they could have called a foul on the Warriors, frankly they could have called a foul on Mozgov he collided with a guy outside the circle.

The problem with that walk is it was not consistent, LeBron walks on his postup constantly, no call. Curry walked on one of his stepback J's late, no call. Irving walks on his euro step drives, Bogut walks etc. Klay Thompson walked then drew a foul. All night long they ignored walks and then called that one.

You can debate calls all night. LeBron comes over Iggy's back, elbow hits him in face, they call the foul on Iggy. LeBron uses elbow to get room against iggy, catches pass, backs down uses eblow again knocks him off. Then as Iggy is coming back to get close, Lebron goes up into him, Iggy fouls. Hell LeBron committed 3 fouls in the first quarter, they called 1 when Barnes got the steal and LeBron ran into him and he was still arguing that call 5 minutes later.

But the travel call was odd because they hadn't called it all night.

It was a walk. Here's the play, with the ability to slow it down, reverse or whatever at the bottom right.

http://gfycat.com/HideousWindingGibbon

 

[SO91]

Kyrie to have surgery, out the rest of the Finals. Fractured kneecap.

 

[Chaz]

Truth is, if the refs didn't call that completely BS travel on Mosgov when he hit the layup with 30 seconds left, the Cavs win and Irving doesn't get hurt.

You can't jump stop then pivot. It is a travel all day.

 

[ajcardfan]

You can't jump stop then pivot. It is a travel all day.

As Russ pointed out very well in his post, and Van Gundy mentioned immediately after the call in the broadcast last night, it was a bizarre time to call a travel when they continually let other travels go just about the entire game.

Yeah, it's too bad abut Irving and Love. I don't really care who wins the series I was just rooting for a great series. That seems over at this point, the Warriors are way too deep and talented to let this get to six or seven games.

 

[Chaz]

As Russ pointed out very well in his post, and Van Gundy mentioned immediately after the call in the broadcast last night, it was a bizarre time to call a travel when they continually let other travels go just about the entire game.

Yeah, it's too bad abut Irving and Love. I don't really care who wins the series I was just rooting for a great series. That seems over at this point, the Warriors are way too deep and talented to let this get to six or seven games.

I find this a strange argument.

If the others weren't called it doesn't make this one any less of a travel. It was pretty blatant.

 

[ajcardfan]

I find this a strange argument.

If the others weren't called it doesn't make this one any less of a travel. It was pretty blatant.

I actually agree with the call. But, I do agree with Russ that same call could made on LeBron in the post at least a couple of times last night. That's what I find annoying about officiating. Calling it different for stars than other guys.

 

[Phrazbit]

You can't jump stop then pivot. It is a travel all day.

It doesn't even look like he pivots, from that view behind the basket it looks as though he jump stops then shuffles both feet around.

 

[Errntknght]

You can't jump stop then pivot. It is a travel all day.

You can move one foot after a jump stop during which you catch a pass or dribble into the jump. If you can move one foot then you can pivot. Mosgov moved both feet, stepping once then pivoting on the foot he'd just stepped with. Its a non-shooting foul on Bogut - no continuation because he reversed direction after the contact. You could also call a foul on Green as he was moving into Mos, as was Bogut. They allowed that sort of contact all game as long as you didn't whack the guy in addition.

Except for Violet Palmer the NBA refs allow a lot of travelling to go uncalled though they've called the two foot jump start into a dribble quite consistently of late.

 

[Chaz]

It doesn't even look like he pivots, from that view behind the basket it looks as though he jump stops then shuffles both feet around.

Are we even talking about the same play? He dribbles, both feet leave the ground, he comes down with two feet, then pivots back on one foot, and that isn't a travel?

http://gfycat.com/HideousWindingGibbon

 

[Chaz]

You can move one foot after a jump stop during which you catch a pass or dribble into the jump. If you can move one foot then you can pivot. Mosgov moved both feet, stepping once then pivoting on the foot he'd just stepped with. Its a non-shooting foul on Bogut - no continuation because he reversed direction after the contact. You could also call a foul on Green as he was moving into Mos, as was Bogut. They allowed that sort of contact all game as long as you didn't whack the guy in addition.

Except for Violet Palmer the NBA refs allow a lot of travelling to go uncalled though they've called the two foot jump start into a dribble quite consistently of late.

As I told my friend as we watched it if they decapitated him it would be a murder but that would still be a travel.

 

[Phrazbit]

Are we even talking about the same play? He dribbles, both feet leave the ground, he comes down with two feet, then pivots back on one foot, and that isn't a travel?

http://gfycat.com/HideousWindingGibbon

No, I'm saying it IS a travel, for sure.

 

[elindholm]

Shuffle-traveling happens so frequently that I can't imagine how the officials decide whether or not to call it. The funny thing is that someone can score on a shuffle-travel, they'll replay it in slow motion and show it a dozen times while the commentators ooh and ahh about what a great move it was, and no one once says "Well, he got away with a little travel there."