OT QB Dwayne Haskins will enter draft

[Buckybird]

Not unless we still manage to stay in the top 5

I’d say the chances are slim.

If I’m Big Red I’m taking Bosa or Oliver & not blinking an eye. But I am doing some serious investigation on Bosa’s injuries

 

[AZfaninMN]

I’d say the chances are slim.

If I’m Big Red I’m taking Bosa or Oliver & not blinking an eye. But I am doing some serious investigation on Bosa’s injuries

I’d throw Quinnen Williams in the discussion too

 

[vince56]

You know what, if hes a consensus number 1 overall pick, Ill draft him. Skins drafted Rg3 and Cousins in the same year.

No idea why you would use that as an example. That was an awful draft for the skins. They gave up so much, drafted two QBs that never amounted to much of anything for them. That draft would up being the basis for the Rams, getting those picks in the rg3 trade.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Cards get - #2 pick , 1st rd 2020, 3rd rd pick
San Fran gets #1 pick

Cards get - #4 pick, #27?, 1st rd 2020
Oakland gets - #2 pick

Doesn't seem impossible. Unlikely yes. In this scenario you need Gruden to love Haskins and SF to love Bosa. I would do it. You still pick at #4. Two 1sts and two 3rds this year, plus three 1sts next year including our own pick

Oakland is still committed to Carr and need Bosa to replace Mack as they had this year's worst pass rush. So, we trade directly with Oakland and add later picks. This scenario has the advantage of denying SF the selection of Bosa.

 

[Russ Smith]

I guess Rosen shouldn't have been drafted by that logic either. Been 30 years since they put out a QB worth writing home about.

not even close. Aikman was at UCLA 29 years ago not 30 (-:

 

[Buckybird]

I’d throw Quinnen Williams in the discussion too

I think he’s going to be good, but I don’t think great. I think the other 2 can be beasts.

We shall see, we all see different things with our eyes lol

 

[Vacard]

No idea why you would use that as an example. That was an awful draft for the skins. They gave up so much, drafted two QBs that never amounted to much of anything for them. That draft would up being the basis for the Rams, getting those picks in the rg3 trade.

I used that example because they drafted two qb's if RG3 was not going to be the man going forward. Same thing applies here. Draft Haskins if Rosen is not going to be the man going forward. You cannot pass up a prospect like Haskins. If Rosen is legit, trade Haskins.

 

[Solar7]

Oakland is still committed to Carr and need Bosa to replace Mack as they had this year's worst pass rush. So, we trade directly with Oakland and add later picks. This scenario has the advantage of denying SF the selection of Bosa.

Gruden will get strung up if he blows the very picks he got for Mack to turn around and give more for a guy who hasn't taken an NFL snap. The Raiders are using those picks to create the team in his image.

 

[Buckybird]

This scenario has the advantage of denying SF the selection of Bosa.

Drafting that way & those thoughts are a sure Fire way to bomb the pick

 

[HeHasRosen]

Oakland is still committed to Carr and need Bosa to replace Mack as they had this year's worst pass rush. So, we trade directly with Oakland and add later picks. This scenario has the advantage of denying SF the selection of Bosa.

My example us just one way but there are many ways to do it with different teams. I just think its a possibility because of the way the draft appears to be structured and what we need and already have as a team. Im not opposed to your suggestion. However im not concerned with blocking San Fran only improving our team.

Gruden will get strung up if he blows the very picks he got for Mack to turn around and give more for a guy who hasn't taken an NFL snap. The Raiders are using those picks to create the team in his image.

This is why i say its unlikely. I think Gruden likes Carr and are more likely to keep their picks. But Gruden likes to gush over the upcoming QB prospects and we fleeced them last year so you never know.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Drafting that way & those thoughts are a sure Fire way to bomb the pick

No idea what that means .

 

[Buckybird]

No idea what that means .

Our draft strategy should be improving the Arizona Cardinals & not worrying about denying another team a certain player. Anything else is foolish imo.

 

[GatorAZ]

Our draft strategy should be improving the Arizona Cardinals & not worrying about denying another team a certain player. Anything else is foolish imo.

Although beating the Niners twice yet still taking Bosa one spot ahead would be quite swell.

 

[Solar7]

Drafting that way & those thoughts are a sure Fire way to bomb the pick

Our draft strategy should be improving the Arizona Cardinals & not worrying about denying another team a certain player. Anything else is foolish imo.

When everyone else says the player in your lap is the best available, and you think you can outsmart everyone while handing your rival a key part, that's foolish.

It'd be one thing if we thought "oh man, the 49ers need a WR, let's take N'Keal Harry #1 overall." But that's not what's going on. We have the top player at a premier position in the NFL sitting right in front of us. If there was any debate about who the top pick should be among all NFL minds, I'd be with you. But this isn't like selecting between three questionable offensive tackles because no one knows what to do.

 

[BW52]

I guess Rosen shouldn't have been drafted by that logic either. Been 30 years since they put out a QB worth writing home about.[/QUOTE

At least Rosen showed something for more than 1 season.

 

[BW52]

Oliver is a undersized primmadonna diva.Quinnen Williams blah.Bosa easy choice.

 

[BW52]

When your schools posterboy for NFL QB success is Mike Tomczak or Troy Smith then that makes me step back a bit and throw a much more critical look.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Oliver is a undersized primmadonna diva.Quinnen Williams blah.Bosa easy choice.

I think Nkemdiche and Bosa will become best friends spending their time on the injury report together.

 

[BW52]

I think Nkemdiche and Bosa will become best friends spending their time on the injury report together.

Nonsense.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Nonsense.

Ahahahahahaha...Bosa makes me nervous, we don't need another glass slipper on the DL.

 

[BW52]

So every player that has a injury is a glass slipper in your view?IMO I would rather take a chance with Bosa instead of that POS Oliver or Quinnen Williams.Bosa is still the top prospect for the draft.

 

[iLLmatiC]

So every player that has a injury is a glass slipper in your view?IMO I would rather take a chance with Bosa instead of that POS Oliver or Quinnen Williams.Bosa is still the top prospect for the draft.

Looking at his family and their history with injuries and he already he having issues staying healthy, it's a red flag to me.

 

[sunsfan88]

Looking at his family and their history with injuries and he already he having issues staying healthy, it's a red flag to me.

Joey had one season with injury issues and all of a sudden the entire family has injury issues?

Joey is already a top 5 defensive player in the league and he’s barely in his 3rd year in the league. Nick is supposed to be so much better than Joey and you’re here arguing about semantics?

 

[iLLmatiC]

Joey had one season with injury issues and all of a sudden the entire family has injury issues?

Joey is already a top 5 defensive player in the league and he’s barely in his 3rd year in the league. Nick is supposed to be so much better than Joey and you’re here arguing about semantics?

I don't think I'm being ridiculous. Their dad blew out both knees and it cut his career short to only playing 3 seasons in the league.

Joey played less than half of 2018 because of a foot injury. Now Nick has a "core muscle" issue that caused him to miss the majority of this year.

Last thing we need to do is to draft a player who has issues staying on the field with the 1st pick.

PS - he's not a top 5 defensive player in the league

 

[juza76]

I prefer josh allen, no injury concerns, super productive, phisycal gifted, team capitain(its matter for keim)