OT: Trouble in Pittsburgh

[Zeno]

He's not as good as AB either.

The 33rd pick would be a steal for Brown. I'd say there's about a 2% chance(and that may be high) you get a player at 33 that would have the impact or production of Brown.

AB is better than Fitz right now but I am not giving up a high draft pick for a WR on the plus side of 30 when that has never been what the market shows teams pay in similar situations. Doesn't matter anyway because Pittsburgh is not going to eat $21+ Million in cap space by trading him prior to the draft.

 

[iLLmatiC]

Please, please, please go find anywhere where I said give up the #1. As usual, I'll wait. And please explain to the class how a guy can lead the league in TD receptions and be considered on a downward trajectory.

Lol man take a step back from the ledge NJ, are you always high strung?

The comment regarding trading him for the number one pick wasnt directed at you, it was mentioned in this thread however. Also, trading for him is a moot point considering the cap hit Pittsburgh would need to take to get rid of him.

 

[Zeno]

"When it comes to just being a good teammate, when it comes to just being supportive, understanding that you're trying to achieve one goal, that doesn't matter to him," Clark said, via ProFootballTalk. "What matters to him is 19 attempts, 14 catches, 185 yards, two touchdowns against the Saints. That's what's important to Antonio Brown.

"This is about the fabric of the team. This is about the guy that goes Facebook Live as your coach is talking and leaks information out of the locker room that never should be there. This is about the guy that publicly talks about not getting the ball or issues with the offensive coordinator, knocks over garbage cans or knocks over Gatorade bottles and cans because he doesn't get the rock. At some point, when you're an organization that's built on team, organization that's built on integrity, you have to show the rest of the locker room that."

That's harsh stuff, and something Clark has said before. A year earlier, on ESPN Radio, Clark said "Antonio has done an extremely good job of tricking people … of having us think that he's just a hard worker who's here to win football games. No, Antonio Brown loves Antonio Brown."

Brown is a star. He can do great things. But he brings a heightened level of "volatility" that won't be good for a quarterback about to turn 22. Maybe a veteran team with a veteran quarterback and a history of winning could figure out how to handle him. Then again, that's an apt description of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they don't seem to have much of a handle on Brown at all.

https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/why-jets-need-to-stay-away-from-steelers-wr-antonio-brown/302281844

The article is about the Jets but that last paragraph could equally apply here in AZ.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

AB is more of a diva than Beyonce. No thanks.

 

[wa52lz]

From Rotoworld.com

"NFL Network's Aditi Kinkhabwala reports "multiple teammates" did not believe Antonio Brown was hurt in Week 17 and think Brown quit on the team.

Coach Mike Tomlin asked Brown to get an MRI on Friday last week, and the receiver declined and instead opted to just disappear from the team and never say a word to anyone until Sunday. Deemed inactive, Brown reportedly left the stadium at halftime. Kinkhabwala's reading the tea leaves and opines that Brown is "likely gone" via trade this offseason. A big deal has been made of the $21.12 million dead cap hit trading Brown before June 1 would create, but the real money savings is huge for the Steelers. Brown is due a $2.5 million roster bonus on the fifth day of the new league year in March. And Tomlin has already admitted there comes a point Brown is more of a problem for the team than he is useful. Brown turns 31 this summer and is signed through 2021."

 

[Arz101]

This is so sheeeeeer*t

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[Kel Varnsen]

This is so sheeeeeer*t

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[Arz101]

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I don't know what is worse. The original tweet or backing up the bus onto self.

 

[azsouthendzone]

trading for him is a moot point considering the cap hit Pittsburgh would need to take to get rid of him.

Not of it's done after June 1

 

[Zeno]

Not of it's done after June 1

Then it would be for a 2020 pick.

 

[Stout]

Lol man take a step back from the ledge NJ, are you always high strung?

The comment regarding trading him for the number one pick wasnt directed at you, it was mentioned in this thread however. Also, trading for him is a moot point considering the cap hit Pittsburgh would need to take to get rid of him.

Actually, reports in Pittsburgh are the cap hit would be less than 7 million in dead space if he's traded before March...the exact date escapes me.

 

[Arz101]

They cannot lose AB. With out AB double covering Juju will have that offense exposed. James Conner has left tape and defensive coordinators are going to scheme him out. James Washington is not looking good. M. Bryant is long gone.

With Munchak and Ramon Foster leaving..

Plus a defensive coordinator who will be defensive planning for players on IR,

this is a nightmare for steelers.

 

[Ronin]

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[JeffGollin]

I understand that and im not saying he's guilty, but people on this board even me have looked at other players on other teams like Foster and Big Ben and even though the women have gone back and fourth and this and that we still view that player as guilty.

Can't have it one way without the other. It doesn't affect how I view Fitz at all

I have always held that the NFL is all about percentage-likelihoods and not 100% definites.

Sign Brown and you get a Super athletic WR. But you also risk taking on a whole bunch of negative baggage that might have consequences you never anticipated.

Sign him, and maybe you luck out. Or not.

 

[TheCardFan]

If somebody does trade for Antonio Brown, they are going to get arguably the best WR in the NFL for 3 years at 13m/year. That is a hell of a steal.

We would have to trade down big time for it to make sense to trade a #1 pick for him but that is what they will get.

I would trade next years (2020) #1 pick for him.

 

[Arz101]

If somebody does trade for Antonio Brown, they are going to get arguably the best WR in the NFL for 3 years at 13m/year. That is a hell of a steal.

We would have to trade down big time for it to make sense to trade a #1 pick for him but that is what they will get.

I would trade next years (2020) #1 pick for him.

It also comes with advanced form of ME virus. There is no known antidote for it.

 

[Stout]

Some laughable opinions on Pittsburgh sports radio, even from some of the great area personalities. I heard the possibility of us trading the #1 pick for Brown--bwahahahaha! Then there was the Patrick Peterson one--I wouldn't even do that straight-up--and they were saying we'd have to THROW IN our 2nd rounder to seal the deal. They are smoking some serious, serious crack in da 'Burgh right now. If Brown were far younger and not a headcase, sure, this tuff would make more sense. As it stands? MAYBE a 2nd alone, definitely a 3rd rounder, and that's about it.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Some laughable opinions on Pittsburgh sports radio, even from some of the great area personalities. I heard the possibility of us trading the #1 pick for Brown--bwahahahaha! Then there was the Patrick Peterson one--I wouldn't even do that straight-up--and they were saying we'd have to THROW IN our 2nd rounder to seal the deal. They are smoking some serious, serious crack in da 'Burgh right now. If Brown were far younger and not a headcase, sure, this tuff would make more sense. As it stands? MAYBE a 2nd alone, definitely a 3rd rounder, and that's about it.

I'm not surprised, fanboy always over values their own team. Many here think PP21 would fetch 2 numbers 1s.

 

[TheCardFan]

Amari Cooper was traded for a 1st rd pick. Amari Copper is no Antonio Brown.

 

[oaken1]

Some laughable opinions on Pittsburgh sports radio, even from some of the great area personalities. I heard the possibility of us trading the #1 pick for Brown--bwahahahaha! Then there was the Patrick Peterson one--I wouldn't even do that straight-up--and they were saying we'd have to THROW IN our 2nd rounder to seal the deal. They are smoking some serious, serious crack in da 'Burgh right now. If Brown were far younger and not a headcase, sure, this tuff would make more sense. As it stands? MAYBE a 2nd alone, definitely a 3rd rounder, and that's about it.

Maybe pp21 for brown and their 1st

 

[Arz101]

Amari Cooper was traded for a 1st rd pick. Amari Copper is no Antonio Brown.

If GM trades for past success, they will be buying tail gating gear and season tickets before they know it.

 

[Finito]

Some laughable opinions on Pittsburgh sports radio, even from some of the great area personalities. I heard the possibility of us trading the #1 pick for Brown--bwahahahaha! Then there was the Patrick Peterson one--I wouldn't even do that straight-up--and they were saying we'd have to THROW IN our 2nd rounder to seal the deal. They are smoking some serious, serious crack in da 'Burgh right now. If Brown were far younger and not a headcase, sure, this tuff would make more sense. As it stands? MAYBE a 2nd alone, definitely a 3rd rounder, and that's about it.

I honestly wouldn't touch brown he's a headcase no thanks.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I honestly wouldn't touch brown he's a headcase no thanks.

I would offer pick number 33. It's a gamble that he would not become a cancer here too, but a risk worth taking IMO.

 

[PACardsFan]

I would offer pick number 33. It's a gamble that he would not become a cancer here too, but a risk worth taking IMO.

No way would I give up our 33rd for that mindless moron. Are we crazy??? The 33rd pick is practically a 1st round pick. AB can attribute most of his success to Big Ben. With Rosen throwing to him, he wouldn’t be nearly as good. At best, I’d give our 3rd or 4th rounder. If the Steelers want more, move on. He’s a cancer beyond words.

 

[WisconsinCard]

No way would I give up our 33rd for that mindless moron. Are we crazy??? The 33rd pick is practically a 1st round pick. AB can attribute most of his success to Big Ben. With Rosen throwing to him, he wouldn’t be nearly as good. At best, I’d give our 3rd or 4th rounder. If the Steelers want more, move on. He’s a cancer beyond words.

The guy is a legit HOF candidate. Not many if any drafted this year will you be able to say that. A proven number 1 receiver versus an unproven draft pick. I said I would take that gamble that he keeps his head on straight, and I stand by it.

Vince you have admitted Pitt hate, so step back and think about a receiver that can take the top off a defense and can actually catch the ball.