The logo and the mascot are iffy to me.
OT: What if the Redskins change their name?
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I agree. The name isn't racist in itself, but the logo is pushing it.
meh, I guess. I have no problem but I am also insensitive.
Then again, I found the new york jews and san fran chinamen hilarious so maybe I am an AZ *****.
Then again, I found the new york jews and san fran chinamen hilarious so maybe I am an AZ *****.
Well, there is the thing of you confusing the colonies and the confederate states...
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With Cleveland I think the objection is more to the logo itself than the name
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I mentioned this years ago when the topic came up, one of my rival highschools growing up was the Fremont Indians. They eventually changed the name to the Firebirds over controversy about the name.
One year the Fremont Firebirds had a big hubbub about graduation because a native american student told them he(or she I don't remember now) was going to wear feathers on the graduation cap to celebrate their heritage. The principal refused to let the person do so, if they did, they were going to be pulled from the ceremony and there were threats they would not graduate.
It got to be hilarious a local group started airing videos from previous Fremont graduations showing all the students with bandannas, giant sunglasses etc, all completely ok with the school apparently. But one Native american decides they want to honor their heritage and they're a bad person because they're trying to be different and that's bad.
IIRC they eventually let the kid do it but only because they were so publicly ridiculed for their stance.
I still go back to the whole Snyder thing, he sued someone because he thought a picture and article they printed was anti semitic, so you start an NFL franchise called the NY Jews and put that picture on the helmet and Dan Snyder will sue you for defamation, but he doesn't personally find the logo and name of HIS team to be offensive so he refuses to even consider changing it.
I am sure some of Snyder's best friends have dressed up as "redskins"...
Well, there is the thing of you confusing the colonies and the confederate states...
I dunno why I said colonies really now that I go back and read it. Ive been on here extra today due to lack of motivation and drowziness from being up since 4am and it is reflecting.
Ya, sorry, it was a mistake. Nevermind.
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If not he can go Jack Kent Cooke and hire an actress to portray one.
It's not offensive, I'm so confident of that I'm using a 10 year old poll that talked to 768 people to prove my point.
I'm sure I can find more than 768 people who believe something is not offensive that Snyder personally would find incredibly offensive. But that would be different because now it would be offensive to HIM.
I can see a DC yelling to his DB - cover that ********!
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Snyder should make his case about the name and send this writeup along with a ballot to each known tribe in the US and let them vote on it. I have no problem with the name and from my perspective it seems to show respect to Native Americans but maybe they see it otherwise. If they find it offensive the right thing to do is change it.
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I thought Pigskins would be obvious
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I'm sure if the team had been called the "Washington Yids" Snyder would still be proud of it's tradition.
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Loved eating there as a kid and my wife and I still eat there every chance we can. Great food/service and a family owned business. Origin of the name of the restaurant actually came from a mixing of the owner's names. They later borrowed characters from the book for promotional purposes. Just another example of the PC police ruining a good thing, IMHO.
"Little black sambo".
Our dog's name is Sambo.
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I realize that what was considered good marketing 100 years ago may not be effective now. What I don't get is how a business owner would pick a name for his team that was considered to be negative.
If MLB decides to add another team to balance the conferences would the new owner pick the name Slimeballs, Wimps or Losers? I hardly think so and this is why I can't believe the Redskins was meant as something negative.
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Why is one considered offensive and the other is not?
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