Really? What you think the hawks will be mad at being called black?
OT: What if the Redskins change their name?
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Really? What you think the hawks will be mad at being called black?
Raise your hand if you still call "ding dong ditch" "<ninja> knocking".
Or "Brazil nuts" "<ninja> toes"
Or "Brazil nuts" "<ninja> toes"
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I completely disagree.
Who gets to judge what is offending or not.
The lines deserved to be questioned.
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Who knows?
Again, who is the person that makes these proclamations of what is offensive or not.
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Never heard of the first one.
Brazil nuts I have heard that name used. When I was a kid I couldn't figure out why they would call them that. They were just the weird looking nuts that one wanted to eat when you got the mixed nuts.
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How is it not ?
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Calls people ignorant for making jokes about a topic, and then makes jokes about the topic.
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Why so sensitive?
Cause it wasn't his joke, someone else's ? At least that is my best guess, cause he is yucking it up in this thread after calling you ignorant. Which was completely uncalled for and rude in my opinion.
I thought the comment was hilarious, and appropriate. Some many people want to proclaim they are offended about this and that. Well, were is the line ? Who determines these things ? I think that the comment was a great challenge to those blurred and gray lines of convenient truths.
What if I am offended by something ? Where do I submit my "I'm offended papers to ?"
Also, I feel this thread is so stupid in subject matter that it should go where it belongs, and that is the P&R board. I don't know what this schlep has to do with the Niners game this weekend. Unless we just needed a thread to hook people who want to talk football into a topic where they can be berated, and made to feel bad. Which is also bad form, IMO.
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Raise your hand if you still call "ding dong ditch" "<ninja> knocking".
Or "Brazil nuts" "<ninja> toes"
Never heard the first phrase before, sheltered life I lead.
2nd one I have and yes it is offensive. Thing is while my parents openly raised us to not be racist and said all people are equal and shouldn't be judged based on skin color etc., my dad did use the 2nd phrase.
What my take away is that prejudices and racism will take quite some more time to be eliminated, if ever. My parents wanted to do the right thing, tried to do the right thing and yet still didn't always live up to that.
Bottom line is that I get frustrated when any little thing can be considered racist and we seem to be drowning in PC expectations. Then I realize that it does need to be this way until those that hate stop the hating.
Raise your hand if you still call "ding dong ditch" "<ninja> knocking".
Or "Brazil nuts" "<ninja> toes"
Two different posters have never heard the phrase N***** knocking? wow!
That is crazy to me.
That and smear the queer were very relevant "games" in my youth.
I wonder if both have changed names by now. I remember smear the queer vividly and as kids, we had no idea how hateful the name of that game was and that when we were yelling get the queer what it really meant. Had no idea at first what n***** knocking meant either. I figured that one out way before figuring out what smear the queer really meant though.
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And this is why we have to go all PC for at least another generation.
Ya, we played smear the queer as well. I admit to not knowing queer referred to homosexual until after I was too old to play such a game. Or at least I didn't put the two together.
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The team's first owner was coffee tycoon Frederic McLaughlin, who outbid grain magnate James E. Norris for the franchise. McLaughlin had been a commander with the 333rd Machine Gun Battalion of the 86th Infantry Division during World War I.[3] This Division was nicknamed the "Blackhawk Division", after a Native American of the Sauk nation, Black Hawk, who was a prominent figure in the history of Illinois.[3] McLaughlin evidently named the hockey team in honor of the military unit, making it one of many sports team names using Native Americans as icons. For many years, the name was spelled "Black Hawks." This ambiguity was finally settled in the summer of 1986 when the club officially decided on the one-word version based on the spelling found in the original franchise documents
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Wow. Sally Jenkins nailed it and that Misanthrope owner. Good find GC.
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I've never heard of either of them or the new one you just introduced. I still have no idea what they mean or how they are used. Not that they were necessary, my step dad was able to hate and insult pretty much anyone without using all those new fangled terms.
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Ding dong ditch/ninja knocking is or was knocking on people's front doors and running away. I am 42 years old and grew up in Phoenix. I also heard it was in use in Florida around the same time.
Brazil nuts being call ninja toes I only heard by people my grandparents age.
The Blackhawks is not racially tinged. It is the name of a Chief of the Sauk tribe and is depicted as a brave warrior. The Sauks were a tribe that was forced into Illinois and the Redskins is a term heaped upon a race of people that were summarily massacred and used as a derogatory. I think their is a difference between honoring a chief and naming a team the "redskins".
If anyone doesn't think this is so, read this
The offended and the sympathetic get to judge.
Ya, how about the National Congress of American Indians who have now been referenced about 236 times in this thread?
"Do you like being referred to as redskins?"
"No."
"Why not?:
"Really, you don't know?"
"No, and I don't care. I heard some others didn't care. So I am going to put my fingers in my ears. NAhahaha, can't hear you."
Never heard of either one neither, and I grew up in the deep south. So much for stereotyping southerners.
Did you miss the part where I said I grew up in Phoenix? I am pretty sure that qualifies. And I am almost positive there a more than a few stereotyping nonsoutherners here in Chicago. Ooof.
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