Per Adam Schefter: Fitz Wants Kolb

[Mitch]

Schefter says that the Cardinals have asked what QBs he would want them to acquire and that Fitz's first choice is Kevin Kolb...and that Fitz also mentioned Marc Bulger.

Your thoughts?

 

[vinnymac]

Schefter says that the Cardinals have asked what QBs he would want them to acquire and that Fitz's first choice is Kevin Kolb...and that Fitz also mentioned Marc Bulger.

Your thoughts?

Marc Bulger for me. He ready to win now QB just what us fans want. Plus Bulger has ran this kind of offense and Kolb has not. Bulger is the best option of the two.

 

[Buckybird]

Schefter says that the Cardinals have asked what QBs he would want them to acquire and that Fitz's first choice is Kevin Kolb...and that Fitz also mentioned Marc Bulger.

Your thoughts?

Not suprising on Kolb, though IMO I would even consider the #5 pick...untouchable IMO, but these are the Cards Mitch. I would offer a #2 this year & #4 next year at the most. If the Cards want a QB they are going to have to pay...OMG he would have to work out or we would be in deep doodoo!!!

Mitch did, you notice Deion trying to get Fitz to spit out why he wasn't asked for his opinion on the Leinart cutting the other day because he is the "bell cow" of the team? It sure did seem Fitz wanted to say yes as his stuttered his way around the question.

 

[Mitch]

This may have just driven up the price for Kolb. There's no question that he will be pursued by several teams...the most avid of which may be the 49ers, as Kolb is a West Coast QB.

Doesn't have superior arm strenth, but he's a good rhythm and timing QB who gets the ball out quick. As a result he does not take a lot of sacks. The fact that he's so good at getting the ball out quick is what the Cardinals will like most...as this was Kurt Warner's forte.

I would imagine Fitz and Warner have talked about Kolb...and this is probably why Fitz mentioned Bulger, whom Warner has advocated as a good option with the caveat that Bulger is eager and has his head on straight.

If a CBA is made prior to the draft, expect the Seahawks to get involved in the Kolb pursuit as well. And they may be able to provide something the Cardinals and 49ers would be reluctant to give up: a 2011 first round pick.

Seattle is now the wheeler and dealer in the division. Their philosophy is to keep trying until they get the right players...which is why they didn't mind giving up a 3rd round pick for Charlie Whitehurst...a player that did not win their trust this year...so they will be out shopping again and will be prepared to outbid the other suitors.

 

[Conquest]

Good for Fitz.

 

[az jam]

The price for Kolb will be high as there will be several teams bidding for him. Bulger comes only as a free agent and allowing us to keep all our draft choices.
However there are issues on both of them. Is Kolb the real deal? Can Bulger get back to his 2006 form?
IMO is to get Bulger and draft best available qb in round 2. It could be Locker/Mallert/Ponder/Kaeperncik. All would be projects for 2 years to develop along with Skelton.

 

[kerouac9]

After agitating for Derek Anderson and against #7, I really hope that Larry Fitzgerald gets out of the quarterback scouting business.

 

[TJ]

Marc Bulger for me. He ready to win now QB just what us fans want. Plus Bulger has ran this kind of offense and Kolb has not. Bulger is the best option of the two.

What is a "ready to win now" QB? In my eyes, it's not Bulger. The guys has not had success since 2006. That was also the last season he played all 16 games.

You can argue Kolb is a riskier option because of lack of experience and the fact he will cost some high draft picks to obtain, but from what Ive seen during his opportunities, the guy is aggressive, can make plays and be groomed to be the starter for our franchise for 10 +/- years.

Bulger, with his age, would be just another patch for our lack of a franchise guy, and this time, we wouldnt get MVP type production like we did with Warner.

The FO needs to at least make that call to the Eagles and see what they would take for Kolb.

 

[az jam]

If anyone wants Kolb, figure on losing at least our #5 pick and possibly more.

The Eagles know how to play this game and there are many teams in desperate need of a qb. With the 5th pick and low picks in other rounds we can outbid most of the teams but is he worth it?????

 

[earthsci]

After agitating for Derek Anderson and against #7, I really hope that Larry Fitzgerald gets out of the quarterback scouting business.

This. The Cards need to do what is best for the team. If they do, Larry will do good anyway.

 

[Mitch]

Not suprising on Kolb, though IMO I would even consider the #5 pick...untouchable IMO, but these are the Cards Mitch. I would offer a #2 this year & #4 next year at the most. If the Cards want a QB they are going to have to pay...OMG he would have to work out or we would be in deep doodoo!!!

Mitch did, you notice Deion trying to get Fitz to spit out why he wasn't asked for his opinion on the Leinart cutting the other day because he is the "bell cow" of the team? It sure did seem Fitz wanted to say yes as his stuttered his way around the question.

It is my belief---and has been---for right or for wrong---that Fitz has been a catalyst behind the scenes for quite some time now. I imagine that he lobbied for Warner as the starter back when the job was handed to Leinart.

Whether it was directly or indirectly this past year, I believe Fitz had something to do with the release of Matt Leinart. The Cris Carter leak may have had more credence and veracity than people think.

The reason why Fitz stuttered his way around the question is that he knows what his role in the situation was and knew that he shouldn't say anything one way or another.

So, one might ask why would Fitz have preferred Derek Anderson? While Anderson's issue was accuracy it was not in getting the ball to arrive quicker.

One of the things Warner was great at was telling his WRs how he wouldn't leave them vulnerable...and to trust him on that. This is one of the reasons why Warner was so devestated after Q's hammering in New York...so much so that he contemplated retiring right then and there.

Warner---as much as any QB who ever played the game---put the top priority on keeping his WRs out of harm's way, even if it meant taking shots in the pocket to do so.

Fitz was used to this kind of trust...which went flying out the window with Leinart on the very frist pass of the pre-season when Leinart threw the skinny post a tad late and Fitz got upended and injured.

When Fitz says that "Whiz has the recipe"---it's obvious that Fitz knows the ingredients, because they've discussed them.

Now we will have to see if Whiz is given the carte blanche to act decisively and quickly on purchasing those ingredients. If you read Bickley's column today...Bickley renders dubious thoughts about Rod Graves' ability to perform at a highly productive level as GM.

One sign that Whiz has been give more autonomy in the decision making will be if he manages to acquire Kevin Kolb.

It may have just gotten a little more difficult now that it's gone public that Fitz has lauded Kolb as his first choice.

 

[Goldfield]

I want Orton because he has proven he can play. Kolb has not proven anything yet. We can not take a chance and fail.

Orton then Kolb IMO.

 

[WildBB]

I want Orton because he has proven he can play. Kolb has not proven anything yet. We can not take a chance and fail.

Orton then Kolb IMO.

Apparently, it's not what the catalyst of the offense wants.

But we need so many parts on this team right now, unless there is an agreement in the CBA, then there is no FA and we can't give up too much to acquire Kolb. That's the crux of the dilemma.

 

[PJ1]

Kolb my first choice but not for anything involving a first round pick. Maybe a swap of #1's and something else.

He won't come cheap and quite honestly I would rather Fitz had kept his mouth shut.

 

[Chopper0080]

In the end, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Eagles take a 2nd round pick for Kolb. In the end, you get what you can get, and the Eagles can either have a valued back up or an additional draft pick which history shows they covet. 2011 2nd rounder for Kolb gets a "yes" from me.

As for opinions that Kolb will cost a first rounder, I doubt it. For all of his potential he has shown less than Orton, and when given a shot this year, he got injured and lost the job. I am not saying that Kolb won't turn out to be a good player, but a 1st rounder is going to be a hard sell for a player with Kolb's production. Also, don't discount that this will be when Kolb is at his highest value, because he doesn't look to get much playing time if there is a next season.

 

[desertdawg]

I would be ok if we got Kolb and kept our #5. Orton will probably be cheaper but he does kinda suck when it comes down to it. Bulger, smart and damaged goods.

 

[Cardinal Bob]

...Bickley renders dubious thoughts about Rod Graves' ability to perform at a highly productive level as GM.

Hell, that's been the sentiment on this board for years!

 

[DemsMyBoys]

My thoughts are I'd like to know Adam Schefter's source for that report.

 

[Buckybird]

Now we will have to see if Whiz is given the carte blanche to act decisively and quickly on purchasing those ingredients. If you read Bickley's column today...Bickley renders dubious thoughts about Rod Graves' ability to perform at a highly productive level as GM.

Yes, I read that & have been a human snail basher for years. I also think Bickley forgot another key ingredient in winning...ownership!!! I thought we might possibly have turned the corner 3-4 years ago, but I really believe things will never totally change until Mr B is off this earth in that dept because he is the $$$ man.

Lets see:

Head Coach-check
QB-not yet
GM-clueless IMO & will always be the puppet
Ownership-not all in after watching '99 play out all over again

We have pieces to win in place but a jizzsaw puzzle is never completed until you can find all the pieces.

 

[vince56]

Per ASFN: so does Vince.

 

[PACardsFan]

I want Orton because he has proven he can play. Kolb has not proven anything yet. We can not take a chance and fail.

Orton then Kolb IMO.

Understood, but I think Orton has already plateaued. There's risk with Kolb, but I believe he has a much higher ceiling than Orton does. Orton would definitely come a lot cheaper though. If you bring in Orton, I think you still consider going QB with the 5th pick. If you bring in Kolb, there is no 5th pick.

 

[desertdawg]

Understood, but I think Orton has already plateaued. There's risk with Kolb, but I believe he has a much higher ceiling than Orton does. Orton would definitely come a lot cheaper though. If you bring in Orton, I think you still consider going QB with the 5th pick. If you bring in Kolb, there is no 5th pick.

You were sooo close.
If we go Orton then we also go Newton/Gabbert in the first.
I agree about Orton not being a QBOF so we need to take the best QB available in the draft if we go Orton. Kolb , I take without drafting a QB this year.

 

[sportznutt]

If we had to give up #5, then I'd want to get their #1 next year in return.

 

[bg7brd]

Schefter says that the Cardinals have asked what QBs he would want them to acquire and that Fitz's first choice is Kevin Kolb...and that Fitz also mentioned Marc Bulger.

Your thoughts?

I don't believe this for a second. After listening to all of Larry's interviews lately, I highly doubt he would even offer his opinion. And why would the Cards leak this, as it would only drive up the price. I would look in the Eagles direction for the "source".

 

[Pariah]

I highly doubt he would even offer his opinion.

Offering his opinion publicly to the media and in a closed-door meeting are two very different things.

I don't doubt that Fitz offered his opinion and put Kolb at the top of his list, but I hope he gave it with the caveat that he understands Kolb may not be available for a reasonable price.

Why he wants Bulger is beyond me. Maybe the Cards could catch lightning in a bottle with him just as they did Warner, but I always thought he was overrated when he was healthy and "good."