Per MJ

[ASUCHRIS]

A complete nose tackle has also pass rushing skiLls so he can play on third and long

Ok, then name these complete nose tackles that stuff the run and also play on third and long.

 

[kerouac9]

Ok, then name these complete nose tackles that stuff the run and also play on third and long.

Or why you would want them to when you could put in a 290-lbs one-gap tackle who can burst through the line.

 

[juza76]

Ok, then name these complete nose tackles that stuff the run and also play on third and long.

DT/NT
Suh
Farley
Wilfork
Nagata
Philip taylor
Dereus
Wilkerson
Williams !iills
Starks
Casey
The guy who play for san diego

 

[kerouac9]

DT/NT
Suh - 4-3 DT, Does not apply
Farley - 4-3 DT, Does not apply
Wilfork
Nagata - 3-4 DE, Does not apply
Philip taylor - 4-3 DT when he was good; now plays 3-4 DE and isn't very good, Does not apply
Dereus - 4-3 DT, Does not apply
Wilkerson - 3-4 DE, Does not apply
Williams !iills - - No idea who this is
Starks - 4-3 DT, Does not apply
Casey - 3-4 DE, Does not apply
The guy who play for san diego

When you pull out all the apples that you're comparing to this orange, the different is pretty stark.

 

[Chopper0080]

Ok, then name these complete nose tackles that stuff the run and also play on third and long.

Dontari Poe
BJ Raji

...and I believe that is it.

The rest are overpaid scrubs.

 

[Jake6233]

Mike Jurecki @mikejurecki
Hearing Carson Palmer could be an option for restructuring his contract. As long as they don't increase his salary they can redo the deal.

Mike Jurecki @mikejurecki
>> MT @Jason_OTC: If the #Cards do restructure Palmers contract they are clearly going to be going all in to create space for this year.

 

[juza76]

When you pull out all the apples that you're comparing to this orange, the different is pretty stark.

i put dt with 310 lb or more
the williams is kyle
i dont care if they are playing 3.4 or 4-3
they are over 310 lb and they play 90% of snaps
dan williams seems to have conditioning problem so he can play just 40% of snaps
then if he is really good with pass rush abilities he can play even 3th downs

is a good player but his value is about 2 mil for season

 

[john h]

* Talks with Dockett are looking more and more optimistic.

* Dan Williams is looking for $3.5M a year---the Cardinals consider him a part-time player and thus are not interested in paying him at that salary. Should test the FA market.

* Cromartie and his wife had issues with living in AZ----they miss NY---and teammates were getting tired of hearing it. MJ thinks the Cardinals probably won't even make an offer, because they feel he is just using them for leverage.

* Cardinals will be pursuing C, G, ILB, OLB in FA.

* Rob Rang thinks the Cardinals are honed in on an OLB in Round 1---and loves RB David Johnson of Northern Iowa for the Cardinals in round 3 or 4.

* MJ is hearing that G Paul Fanaica has a "wink-wink" deal in place with another team in FA that will pay him roughly $3M a year.

Man---they really string the listeners out---all show heading into breaks they are saying there will be Cardinals' news and insights---and finally at the end this was the info. At least the info was worth it.

They also kept saying we would hear from MJ "what the Cardinals are asking Andre Ellington to do." Didn't hear anything on Ellington at all. Anyone have an answer for this one?

It seems to me Mitch we have a real need for a big RB. I also think we should alternate RB's as many teams are doing these days. FA or draft I do not care as drafted RB's are usually ready to go,

 

[Solar7]

i put dt with 310 lb or more
the williams is kyle
i dont care if they are playing 3.4 or 4-3
they are over 310 lb and they play 90% of snaps
dan williams seems to have conditioning problem so he can play just 40% of snaps
then if he is really good with pass rush abilities he can play even 3th downs

is a good player but his value is about 2 mil for season

That's not their weight dictating the amount of snaps though, it's the situation. They're different players, and by definition of their position, are given more opportunities to attack and build stats. Dan Williams has one job, and that's to eat space, same with other NTs in the league. If they're doing their job, they shouldn't be on the field in stat-building situations.

 

[Finito]

That's not their weight dictating the amount of snaps though, it's the situation. They're different players, and by definition of their position, are given more opportunities to attack and build stats. Dan Williams has one job, and that's to eat space, same with other NTs in the league. If they're doing their job, they shouldn't be on the field in stat-building situations.

Exactly, people complaining about his snap count don't know football. Hold them on first and second is just as important as rushing the passer when you get them in 3rd and long.

 

[Cardiac]

Good debate. I'm not sure how much the make up of our current DL impacts Dan's playing time. We have no outside pass rushers that require extra attention from the Offense. Okeafor played fairly well and shows promise but teams didn't have to game plan for him. So let's say we had Von Miller & Houston & DWashout with CC and DD at DE then Dan could still be in on passing downs.

My point is that we don't have any elite pass rushers so we needed to put as many decentish rushers as we could which pulled Dan off the field on 2nd downs more than if we didn't have to manufacture a pass rush. Heck, even some 3rd downs off 4 yds or less Dan could have stayed on the field more.

 

[Jetstream Green]

i put dt with 310 lb or more
the williams is kyle
i dont care if they are playing 3.4 or 4-3
they are over 310 lb and they play 90% of snaps
dan williams seems to have conditioning problem so he can play just 40% of snaps
then if he is really good with pass rush abilities he can play even 3th downs

is a good player but his value is about 2 mil for season

I do not buy the conditioning problems one bit. Constantly I saw him moving laterally and running down tackles from off the line, he just could not get a pass rush but snuffed any attempt to run up the gut... I would pay the man unless there is something else us fans are not aware

 

[Stout]

A complete nose tackle has also pass rushing skiLls so he can play on third and long

A complete team needs a herd of unicorns to ride around on. This is about as logical as your statement.

 

[PDXChris]

A complete team needs a herd of unicorns to ride around on. This is about as logical as your statement.

Based on you last few responses in the last hour or so you have either have had a really bad day or you are PWI because you are coming off as a pretentious prick. Your reply was unwarranted and just plain lame.

 

[juza76]

I just want say he is just 1 dimensional player and we spent a 1st round pick on him
Too eat block i can use a later round picks
If he looks for 3,5 + if i am a general manager i said No
When we used taa'mu in 2013 season our defense was solid as well
I hope he will resign but if will bé signed by another team i wont cry

 

[ajcardfan]

I do not buy the conditioning problems one bit. Constantly I saw him moving laterally and running down tackles from off the line, he just could not get a pass rush but snuffed any attempt to run up the gut... I would pay the man unless there is something else us fans are not aware

The guy flat out kicked ass last year. I don't get why some think 3.5 million for a dlineman who can eat blockers like DW did last year is too much. It took awhile, but he hit his first round potential. It'd be disappointing to see him walk and take his realized potential elsewhere.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I just want say he is just 1 dimensional player and we spent a 1st round pick on him
Too eat block i can use a later round picks
If he looks for 3,5 + if i am a general manager i said No
When we used taa'mu last season our defense was solid as well
I hope he will resign but if will bé signed by another team i wont cry

taa'mu looked like crap last season after his ACL injury and almost never saw the field.

 

[ajcardfan]

I just want say he is just 1 dimensional player and we spent a 1st round pick on him
Too eat block i can use a later round picks
If he looks for 3,5 + if i am a general manager i said No
When we used taa'mu last season our defense was solid as well
I hope he will resign but if will bé signed by another team i wont cry

Oh, we've tried that a lot over the years. Mao Tosi anyone?

 

[juza76]

A complete team needs a herd of unicorns to ride around on. This is about as logical as your statement.

If u are not able to comprehend my logical statement i m really sorry
After a long day cognitive ability may decrease
I wish u good night
Tomorrow is another day

 

[juza76]

Oh, we've tried that a lot over the years. Mao Tosi anyone?

we have a better defense today then in the last years,and sure i also give credit to d.williams

about the last question

the only mao i knew was MAO TSE TUNG

 

[juza76]

taa'mu looked like crap last season after his ACL injury and almost never saw the field.

excuse me i was referring to the 2013 season

 

[Cheesebeef]

excuse me i was referring to the 2013 season

and that's fine.. but he was in spot duty, on a MUCH BETTER defense... and looked atrocious last year. depending on that guy to do what Williams did on a regular basis doesn't seem like a good plan to me.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The guy flat out kicked ass last year. I don't get why some think 3.5 million for a dlineman who can eat blockers like DW did last year is too much. It took awhile, but he hit his first round potential. It'd be disappointing to see him walk and take his realized potential elsewhere.

This.

 

[Bert]

I hate it when people throw out stats to criticize a Dlineman like Dan Williams. We dont need him to get sacks, or pressure the QB or anything else. Dan is in there to stuff the run, take up space and clog the line. He does all those things extremely well. He's completely worth 3.5 mil a year. We will not get anyone anywhere close to the niche he fills on this defense for that price.

 

[juza76]

I hate it when people throw out stats to criticize a Dlineman like Dan Williams. We dont need him to get sacks, or pressure the QB or anything else. Dan is in there to stuff the run, take up space and clog the line. He does all those things extremely well. He's completely worth 3.5 mil a year. We will not get anyone anywhere close to the niche he fills on this defense for that price.

do u want people think in your same way
discussion is the heart of a forum
can u imagine how boring should be a forum without controversy
is nice when someone is able to create a civil debate
so sometimes i feel this need