Per Somers: Breaston Interest

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and then who replaces Roberts on the depth chart? one of our undrafted FA from last year who were horrendous... or Mr. Glass?

We were good when we had a QB and weapons on offense... Fitz, Q and Breaston. Roberts is completely untested, the other guys suck or can't stay on the field. again, you just can't continue to lose every single young talent that ends their first contract... especially since this team HASN'T shown it's just as easy to replace a guy like Breaston. They sure as hell didn't have that replacement last season.

Sure your depth may be affected a little. But also depends on who you sign in FA... This week is gonna be fun :)
 

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The only thing that worries me is that I was sure Breaston could replace Q, and now I'm sure someone else can replace Breaston. But most of the candidates are nowhere enar as good as Q.

If Breaston goes I hope they do make a big move like a Steve Smith, or a Steve Smith.
 

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I really like Steve. He has played hard for us, but like others have stated we have a deep WR core and there are many FA with like talents.

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a) cut the crap with the histrionics. there's no need for that. talk football and don't act like K9.

Steve Breaston could be replaced easily with 10 other guys on the free agent market, with quite a few being upgrades.

and if they did that, great... but seeing as the team DOESN'T usually do that and instead has a history of relying on draft picks or undrafted FAs (see what we did after losing Q... or Dansby... or anyone else for that matter usually), it just doesn't make sense not to try and bring a guy who knows the system, is young, contributes and bleeds red for your team.

seriously... who are these 10 guys and which of them would we even legitmately go after Krang?

I'd like to keep Breaston, but lets not act like letting Breaston go was like not resigning Lomas Brown, Jamir Miller, or Karlos Dansby.

if the team continues to systematically eliminate EVERY player save Fitz, Dockett and a rapidly aging AW from our only era of success, that's exactly what it's like. young good players who are loyal to the club should be rewarded... not because of their loyalty, but because they're good young players.
 

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I really like Steve. He has played hard for us, but like others have stated we have a deep WR core and there are many FA with like talents.

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WTF? We have a deep WR core? Roberts looked OK at the end of the year, Mr. Glass can't sneeze without going on the IR for 5 weeks and our undrafted FA rookies last year looked exactly like that... guys who were undrafted rookies who had no business being on the field. how are we deep at WR and who are we going to sign in FA that will a) cost less than Steve and b) be as productive?
 

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I like Breaston. I really do. But if we could get a guy like Steve Smith (NYG) across from Fitz, we're a better team as a result, IMO.

Steve Smith had an ACL knee surgery and is doubtful for the season.

If we can find a way to retain him and for it to make sense for both the Cards and Breaston, great. But I don't think it's the end of the world for him to walk.

Now, that said, we have so many other holes in the team (yes, I'm looking at you, QB) that I don't honestly see the Cardinals being proactive in finding a true #2 WR this offseason. So, it might make sense to try hang on to Stevie for that reason alone.

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Steve Smith had an ACL knee surgery and is doubtful for the season.
I knew about the injury, but this is the first I've heard about his season being in jeopardy. Didn't he have the procedure last December?
 

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I knew about the injury, but this is the first I've heard about his season being in jeopardy. Didn't he have the procedure last December?

He's no Wes Welker :)
 

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WTF? We have a deep WR core? Roberts looked OK at the end of the year, Mr. Glass can't sneeze without going on the IR for 5 weeks and our undrafted FA rookies last year looked exactly like that... guys who were undrafted rookies who had no business being on the field. how are we deep at WR and who are we going to sign in FA that will a) cost less than Steve and b) be as productive?

I agree that we are not deep at WR. However it's not like Breaston has lit up the score board. He averages 700 yards a year and 2 TDs. I believe that is replacable.
 

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I agree that we are not deep at WR. However it's not like Breaston has lit up the score board. He averages 700 yards a year and 2 TDs. I believe that is replacable.

Well said.
 

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I knew about the injury, but this is the first I've heard about his season being in jeopardy. Didn't he have the procedure last December?

so, you'd rather throw a good chunk of change at a guy who's coming off an ACL injury, doesn't know the system instead of rewarding one of our own who's been as productive and hasn't as bad of an injury?
 

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so, you'd rather throw a good chunk of change at a guy who's coming off an ACL injury, doesn't know the system instead of rewarding one of our own who's been as productive and hasn't as bad of an injury?
I would call it a wash.
 

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so, you'd rather throw a good chunk of change at a guy who's coming off an ACL injury, doesn't know the system instead of rewarding one of our own who's been as productive and hasn't as bad of an injury?
I think Steve Smith is the better WR. Yes.

Again, I'm not advocating that the Cards run Breaston out of town on a rail, but there ARE options out there.
 

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Can we objectively say that with Dewreck Anderson, Max "Short and Sucky" Hall, and John "Can't crack 50% completion" Skelton throwing passes?

are you kidding? yes. Roberts was dropping everything thrown his way early and somewhat rebounded with a nice game or play or two at the end of the year... Stevie Williams couldn't even get on the damn field to not catch those terrible passes because apparently he was so awful in practice and overwhelmed by the game and Max Komar? And we all know Mr. Glass has talent... but is Mr. Glass.

come on guys... were really saying our undrafted FA WR can possibly be depended on? What are we? Back in 2003?
 

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a) cut the crap with the histrionics. there's no need for that. talk football and don't act like K9.

Hey! I resemble that remark! :D

and if they did that, great... but seeing as the team DOESN'T usually do that and instead has a history of relying on draft picks or undrafted FAs (see what we did after losing Q... or Dansby... or anyone else for that matter usually), it just doesn't make sense not to try and bring a guy who knows the system, is young, contributes and bleeds red for your team.

seriously... who are these 10 guys and which of them would we even legitmately go after Krang?



if the team continues to systematically eliminate EVERY player save Fitz, Dockett and a rapidly aging AW from our only era of success, that's exactly what it's like. young good players who are loyal to the club should be rewarded... not because of their loyalty, but because they're good young players.

If this team has shown one thing, it's that WRs are a position group that they're able to get on the cheap and develop into solid if not better players, and when they leave they'll get a nice contract and then underperform it. It goes back to the Mac years.

Breaston is more valueable as a mascot than he is as a position player. I like Steve--great story, great in the locker room, but his production has declined the last three seasons. You hope that he'll come to you with his best offer and give you a chance to match, but he's not close to the class of guys like Dansby, Boldin, and the other top FAs that have reached free agency.

Breaston's value as a receiver decreased when we drafted the TE Housler in the second round. He's our slot receiver now. Roberts, Doucet, and Williams will platoon for the starting position opposite Fitzgerald, and all are capable of getting the 45-60 receptions for 750 yards and 3 TDs that Breaston can get at his best.

It's the Steeler way. The Steelers don't invest big money at the WR position. Randle-El left. Plaxico left when he was Ben's go-to guy. Santonio Holmes was shipped off when he was a Super Bowl MVP. Breaston isn't a guy who can make the offense run; he's a replaceable part with pieces already on hand.
 

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I think Steve Smith is the better WR. Yes.

man, I don't see it. I had the guy on my fantasy team two years ago when he had his "big year" which really consisted of having a great start to the season for 8 games then falling off a cliff, followed up by a season where he was used less and less and then blew out his knee.

Breaston's bigger, faster, has good hands, loves the team and knows the system.

The grass ain't always greener.

Again, I'm not advocating that the Cards run Breaston out of town on a rail, but there ARE options out there.

I just don't see a guy coming off a torn ACL injury 9 months ago as a viable option.
 
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are you kidding? yes. Roberts was dropping everything thrown his way early and somewhat rebounded with a nice game or play or two at the end of the year... Stevie Williams couldn't even get on the damn field to not catch those terrible passes because apparently he was so awful in practice and overwhelmed by the game and Max Komar? And we all know Mr. Glass has talent... but is Mr. Glass.

come on guys... were really saying our undrafted FA WR can possibly be depended on? What are we? Back in 2003?

Where did you hear that.. From what I saw and then heard was DA layed him out one game then wasnt healthy enough to get back ..
 

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so, you'd rather throw a good chunk of change at a guy who's coming off an ACL injury, doesn't know the system instead of rewarding one of our own who's been as productive and hasn't as bad of an injury?

I wouldn't want Steve Smith from the Giants over Breaston. In fact I'd like to see Breaston stay, but my concern is how much do you "Reward" him??? If other teams throw tons of money at him I don't think it's worth it. I'd rather the Cards spend their money else where.
 

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Where did you hear that.. From what I saw and then heard was DA layed him out one game then wasnt healthy enough to get back ..

there was an article way back where Williams admitted himself that he was overwhelmed by the real game once the season started.
 
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there was an article way back where Williams admitted himself that he was overwhelmed by the real game once the season started.

Well you cant draw a conclusion as to thats why he wasnt on the field.. My reference you can clearly draw a conclusion to..
 

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If this team has shown one thing, it's that WRs are a position group that they're able to get on the cheap and develop into solid if not better players, and when they leave they'll get a nice contract and then underperform it. It goes back to the Mac years.

Breaston is more valueable as a mascot than he is as a position player. I like Steve--great story, great in the locker room, but his production has declined the last three seasons. You hope that he'll come to you with his best offer and give you a chance to match, but he's not close to the class of guys like Dansby, Boldin, and the other top FAs that have reached free agency.

Breaston's value as a receiver decreased when we drafted the TE Housler in the second round. He's our slot receiver now. Roberts, Doucet, and Williams will platoon for the starting position opposite Fitzgerald, and all are capable of getting the 45-60 receptions for 750 yards and 3 TDs that Breaston can get at his best.

It's the Steeler way. The Steelers don't invest big money at the WR position. Randle-El left. Plaxico left when he was Ben's go-to guy. Santonio Holmes was shipped off when he was a Super Bowl MVP. Breaston isn't a guy who can make the offense run; he's a replaceable part with pieces already on hand.

I totally agree with this. It would suck to see Breaston leave but he is replaceble.
 
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