You can’t fire Monty unless you have arguably the best coach of all time or another sure fire HOF multiple title winning coach there to replace him?
There is a huge difference between a series going 7 and a team 2 wins away from a title and losing 4 straight. There is no way that is not a collapse. That is not a normal series loss. Guess how many teams have gone up 2-0 and lost the next 4 straight?
Any time you go up 2-0, winning those games with relative ease and then lose 4 straight, that’s a collapse. That literally only happens 8% of the time. I’d have to assume losing back to back years with 2-0 leads has probably only happened a handful of times in NBA history.
HA HA. You spoiled it for me.
It’s actually even worse than that.
There were some huge swings and misses, but usually in bad drafts. He did pick Book/Mikail/Ayton/Melton etc, so there have been much bigger failures in that respect.
Yeah, I was going to name teams. Man, there are only so many opportunities to share random useless knowledge stored in my dome. Thanks Cheese.
I give him credit for Booker and I guess Mikail (though I'm not sure he was still making those decisions by then) but that's about it. Melton was drafted by Houston.
Booker is a top 10 player in the NBA, and Mikail viewed as top 40. That's a pretty nice return!
I can assure you without looking that there are teams that have gotten less out of their drafting during the same period of time, so legendarily bad seems a bridge or two too far to me.
I'm sure you're right, there have been plenty of 6 year stretches where teams brought in even less than we did from the draft. I'm not sure you can find one though that did so little with so much.
I don't think not winning a championship this year will necessarily see him fired but I do believe winning one might save his job. If Ishbia already wants him gone, a championship is probably the only thing that could delay his exit. But if Ishbia entered the picture with no plans to fire Monty, I'd expect him to give him another season at least.
To be fair it wasn't just about his salary which teams knew we'd match. Any team going after him knew it would cost assets plus that salary to make it work. It's typical to overpay a big man on his first non-rookie contract but for another team to do it and also give up players plus picks is far different.
Agreed. If he is THAT good, teams would have pulled the trigger with those terms. I still don't see teams lining up now, and we will want something ing in return still, or why trade him? I think we won't be able to trade him. I think the more viable option is moving on from CP3. Most likely we just run it back. The wild card in all this is Ishbia. We really don't know what this wild man will do.
Nurse will be a head coach this year. I think you may not be familiar with how well regarded as a basketball mind he is in nba circles.
Up 2-0 and you don’t even get to a game 7? That’s a collapse. Is it an “epic” collapse? No. But still a collapse. Let’s not make the Bucks some imaginary all time great team. We had the second best record (better than the Bucks) in the whole league and followed that up by running away with the league the next season. We weren’t some massive underdog in that series just because it was our first foray into the playoffs.
Man does that last paragraph put things into perspective. Yeeccchhh.
Although I agree with you there have been a lot of great basketball minds that I'd rather not see in Phoenix.
That’s possible. But there were also rumblings that the raptors had their share of knuckleheads. Some likely somewhere in between is accurate. All I know is oriole rave about his in game tactics.
And not to defend McDonough, but aside from Steve Kerr's brief tenure as GM, the guys before (and after) McDonough during Sarver's ownership did a rotten job with the draft, too... which made it even tougher to have to deal with McD's failed drafts.
Yeah but we had a lot higher picks under Ryan as we lived through the worst years in Suns history and he made little out of it. The picks he traded for Christ and Knight, the picks he wasted on Bender, Jackson and so many more. No other GM in Suns history has had the draft opportunities Ryan had nor the lack of success.
