Please...someone try and defend WHiz now.

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Never adjusts!!!! Never!!!!! Same crap same week after week. Play calling is horrible....Time management is even worse.
Defense played lights out! We gave up 58 YARDS PASSING!!!! TOTAL and less than 210 yards total offense...and lose!!!! Whiz is horrific and finally I see some starting to jump off his band skateboard. Our defense doesnt deserve this. They have held every team to like 14 points if you take away the gift turnovers. But we are back to the same ol Cardinals unless he is gone.
 
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The offense can't move, don't necessarily yell at whiz for that. Put on a helmet so your kneejerk doesn't hurt you

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The offense can't move, don't necessarily yell at whiz for that. Put on a helmet so your kneejerk doesn't hurt you

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No kneejerk...I havent been a Whiz fan since his Warner fiasco. (He almost didnt play Warner..)
 

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Never adjusts!!!! Never!!!!! Same crap same week after week. Play calling is horrible....Time management is even worse.
Defense played lights out! We gave up 58 YARDS PASSING!!!! TOTAL and less than 210 yards total offense...and lose!!!! Whiz is horrific and finally I see some starting to jump off his band skateboard. Our defense doesnt deserve this. They have held every team to like 14 points if you take away the gift turnovers. But we are back to the same ol Cardinals unless he is gone.
How is this on Whiz when execution failed at critical junctions? Pick six is not Whiz's fault, neither the red zone fumble...

There were some questionable play calls, but they did not determine the outcome of the game.
 

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Never adjusts!!!! Never!!!!! Same crap same week after week. Play calling is horrible....Time management is even worse.
Defense played lights out! We gave up 58 YARDS PASSING!!!! TOTAL and less than 210 yards total offense...and lose!!!! Whiz is horrific and finally I see some starting to jump off his band skateboard. Our defense doesnt deserve this. They have held every team to like 14 points if you take away the gift turnovers. But we are back to the same ol Cardinals unless he is gone.

Yeah, bring back the Cards team that knew how to give up 40 points. I don't understand this thinking that Whiz deserves the blame for everything that goes wrong but none of the credit for any of the things that go right. This team has problems, they need to fix them. Firing Whiz just gives us more problems to resolve.

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How is this on Whiz when execution failed at critical junctions? Pick six is not Whiz's fault, neither the red zone fumble...

There were some questionable play calls, but they did not determine the outcome of the game.

Stop it with the logic and jump on the overreaction bandwagon.
 

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Their absolutely were some terrible coaching decisions and terrible game management I. This game! Should have kicked FG on 4th then not to go for it when your fairly deep field position wise and down by 2 tds just makes zero sense!
 

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Don't worry campos the defenders will come the system works none of the blame falls on whiz!

Don't worry campos the nashman will come and make one of the dumbest comments ever. EVER!!! I challenge you to find even one single instance of anyone on this board ever saying that "none of the blame falls on whiz". Hopefully, you'll take me up on that challenge. That way, you'll be too busy searching for something that doesn't exist to toss us one of your weekly nuggets.

I think you can make a good case that it's time for Whiz to go. BUT, it's absurd to paint him the way you guys do.

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Some folks only show up when they are angry.

Man I use to post all the time when we won....Since all of you like holding Whiz's hand and think he is the greatest coach since Vince Lombardi...I do stay away. But when my 12 year old daughter asks me questions about why are we doing this and we do we take a hobbled QB and try to run him on 4th down.....I do get angry. We were 4-0 and i was happy but it was smoke and mirrors. But we did it against good teams. Now we have played 3 bad to mediocre at best teams...and now have made season bests for 6 players in 3 games!!!!! Look it up. AP most rushing yards.....Tannehill most passing yards....Hartline most receiving yards....Numerous season and carreer sack totals and now have made 2 teams llok alot better than they are....Rams and Bills....you tell me....Who is to blame?
 
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What Warner fiasco? SMH...

Warner threw for 21 TDS and 2300 yards in 8 games! after Lienart broke his collarbone. We went 5-3 and the next season...Lienart was named the starter!!! ANd it took Lienart falling apart in pre season..or Waner may have never started...and that was the year we went to the Super Bowl. Warner should have been named the starter instantly.
 

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Man I use to post all the time when we won....Since all of you like holding Whiz's hand and think he is the greatest coach since Vince Lombardi...I do stay away. But when my 12 year old daughter asks me questions about why are we doing this and we do we take a hobbled QB and try to run him on 4th down.....I do get angry. We were 4-0 and i was happy but it was smoke and mirrors. But we did it against good teams. Now we have played 3 bad to mediocre at best teams...and now have made season bests for 6 players in 3 games!!!!! Look it up. AP most rushing yards.....Tannehill most passing yards....Hartline most receiving yards....Numerous season and carreer sack totals and now have made 2 teams llok alot better than they are....Rams and Bills....you tell me....Who is to blame?
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Don't worry campos the nashman will come and make one of the dumbest comments ever. EVER!!! I challenge you to find even one single instance of anyone on this board ever saying that "none of the blame falls on whiz". Hopefully, you'll take me up on that challenge. That way, you'll be too busy searching for something that doesn't exist to toss us one of your weekly nuggets.

I think you can make a good case that it's time for Whiz to go. BUT, it's absurd to paint him the way you guys do.

Steve

Well that is fair Steve. But I haven't liked him for a long time because in all honesty...this all doesnt surprise me. He isn't a good coach. There is a reason why Pittsburgh was willing to let him and Grimm go. Pittsburgh usually doesnt make bad decisions.

We make the same errors, mistakes and bone headed decisions every game. Whiz is the leader...he is responsible for this. If it wasn't for our Defense...we would be 0-7.
 

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3, 2, 1...Ooooh there's Cards_Campos, we missed you sweetie pie. Now we just need K9 to join the party and the circle will be complete!
 
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3, 2, 1...Ooooh there's Cards_Campos, we missed you sweetie pie. Now we just need K9 to join the party and the circle will be complete!

Hey I will make it easy. Tell me why Whiz is good. Defend him without using we are 4-3. Because I can bet you anything in the world...he has nothing to do with the 4 wins!!! Hortons defense has kept us in every game!!!! I can name numerous..WTF game decisions in the last 4 weeks. Play calls, TO usages, 4th down decisions.

Plus if you read the game thread....more and more people are losing faith in WHiz....I am asking the ones who like him...to defend him.

Please Begin....
 

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Hey I will make it easy. Tell me why Whiz is good. Defend him without using we are 4-3. Because I can bet you anything in the world...he has nothing to do with the 4 wins!!! Hortons defense has kept us in every game!!!! I can name numerous..WTF game decisions in the last 4 weeks. Play calls, TO usages, 4th down decisions.

Plus if you read the game thread....more and more people are losing faith in WHiz....I am asking the ones who like him...to defend him.

Please Begin....

Of course the head coach has nothing to do with the team's wins. But, with that logic, he also has nothing to do with their losses. Blame it on terrible QB play which is what it is. When you start drives in the opponents territory and go three and out, it isn't the coaches fault. When your QB is responsible for 14 of the teams 21 points, it isn't the head coaches fault.

Go back in your cave with your tinfoil hat.
 
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One more thing.....In 3 years....please tell me 1 thing Whiz has done to ADJUST to speed Def End rushers and our OL. Please show me 1 thing he has done where the offense looks different in any way that show he is trying something new.

We are the ONLY TEAM IN FOOTBALL WITH A ALL WORLD WR and we cant get the ball to him. AJ Green is the only decent WR on the BEngals and he catches 8 balls all the time. Wes Welker, Calvin Johnson, etc etc...everyone doubles them...but they get plenty of balls. Fitz is the most dominating football player I have ever seen who can be shut down with minimal effort. (a rookie covered him last week)
 

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Hey I will make it easy. Tell me why Whiz is good. Defend him without using we are 4-3. Because I can bet you anything in the world...he has nothing to do with the 4 wins!!! Hortons defense has kept us in every game!!!! I can name numerous..WTF game decisions in the last 4 weeks. Play calls, TO usages, 4th down decisions.

Plus if you read the game thread....more and more people are losing faith in WHiz....I am asking the ones who like him...to defend him.

Please Begin....

Why bother?

If he walked on water, you'd say it's because he can't swim.
 

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Chopper you know better, playcalling is in whiz and is a huge factor why we go 3 and out often! Skelton blew today but their were some bizarre coaching gaffes today as well!
 
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Why bother?

If he walked on water, you'd say it's because he can't swim.

See ...I am asking for concrete facts on what you have seen. It is easy to make jokes and cover up the bad coaching. Politicians are great at using humor and rhetoric to cover up obvious flaws. Make people laugh and they forget the question.

Way to defend Whiz also....If he walked on water....Dude ....Whiz couldn't coach and adjust in the Lingerie league.
 

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Chopper you know better, playcalling is in whiz and is a huge factor why we go 3 and out often! Skelton blew today but their were some bizarre coaching gaffes today as well!

I watched John Skelton today and I know Whis didn't tell him to throw at his receivers feet all day. I agree that Whis is far from perfect and should be forced to make some personnel moves with his coaching staff in the offseason, but this was on John Skelton all day. He was bad today with good protection and a running game. If Skelton can't be successful today, he can't be successful in the NFL.
 

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See ...I am asking for concrete facts on what you have seen. It is easy to make jokes and cover up the bad coaching. Politicians are great at using humor and rhetoric to cover up obvious flaws. Make people laugh and they forget the question.

Way to defend Whiz also....If he walked on water....Dude ....Whiz couldn't coach and adjust in the Lingerie league.

Sorry.. But I'm not going to spend any time feeding your frothing at the mouth hatred for Coach Whiz.
 
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