Porter to visit Thursday

[Renz]

PS who do I have to pay off to get an avatar around here anyway?

I think you have to have 100 posts first.

 

[PoolBoy]

im ready for this news to come out!!!

 

[Pariah]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/03/11/porter-foote-want-to-be-cards/

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Hell. Yes.

Get this done!!!!!

If this all goes down, we will have IMPROVED even after losing Dansby/Rolle! Imagine that!!!!

 

[JC_AZ]

They both left without offers? WTH?

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Ugh. Don't like that, but consider that there were reports that Graves has been courting them BEFORE their visit for at least the past week. There seems to be an open line of communication, but we got to get it on ink. Collegiality doesn't get you stops on 4th and inches....

 

[Oly]

They both left without offers? WTH?

Ugh. Don't like that, but consider that there were reports that Graves has been courting them BEFORE their visit for at least the past week. There seems to be an open line of communication, but we got to get it on ink. Collegiality doesn't get you stops on 4th and inches....

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2010/03/11/

"Neither have a contract offer yet, but I’d guess that’ll change soon."

I actually believe if they can get it done in a manner that's reasonable they're actually going to get it done. It may just be me allowing them to pull the wool over my eyes but for wants in my life I actually trust them to do the right thing.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Both have expressed a desire to play in Arizona, so I don't take them literally leaving the first meeting without a contract in hand as particularly significant.

The negotiations are between Graves, his team, and the agents, who in turn submit the offer to the player's for approbation.

If I was Porter's agent, I'd say - "Rod, Joey is going to replace both Okeafor and B-Train on the field, and you guys paid those two over $6M last season (OK- $5.4M with bonus - B-Train - 1M), we are looking at that total as a starting point, over three years."

And, Rod responds: "Joey was scheduled to make $3.8M this year in Miami, and we are looking for at a number a little north of that, over two years."

(and so the bargaining begins...)

 

[joeshmo]

Neither one has left town yet, and neither one will be leaving town until tonight, in fact neither one has a visit lined up after this and might stay into tommorow to watch the Suns and Lakers game (both are big Lakers fans).

 

[joeshmo]

Just because the players said they havent recieved an offer yet doesnt mean their agents havent recieved an offer yet. Agent may not even be in the same state.

 

[Pariah]

Just because the players said they havent recieved an offer yet doesnt mean their agents havent recieved an offer yet. Agent may not even be in the same state.

Yeah, it could take days before that next stage coach get to the state in which the agents reside!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Yeah, it could take days before that next stage coach get to the state in which the agents reside!

Well, they could use the telegraph...

 

[mjb21aztd]

god I keep checking back like every 30 min lol.... i'm just so anxious to see the cardinals porter and foote would be huge as hell for us. I really hope when I wake up tomorrow we will have atleast signed one of them mainly Porter is the guy I want . GO CARDS

 

[PDXChris]

From Sando on ESPN

The Cardinals' interest in free-agent pass-rusher Joey Porter hinges in part on whether the team feels comfortable with his ability to assimilate a strong personality into the locker room.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt made that clear during his recent interview with XTRA910 radio. He pointed to Bryan Robinson and Kurt Warner as veteran players secure enough in their own careers to help develop younger players. The team would want Porter or any veteran to embrace that style as the team develops young outside linebackers Will Davis and Cody Brown.

"I think you have to be very clear about this process when you bring a guy in like that," Whisenhunt told XTRA910. "You have to make sure they understand what the expectations are for them not only as a player but as a leader."


Porter has apparently gotten the message.

"I feel like I can fill the need for what they are looking for as far as an outside linebacker and that I can bring that whole presence of making sure I get to the quarterback," Porter told reporters during his visit to Cardinals headquarters. "Doing my job, but not trying to step on anybody's toes, just doing my job and helping them get back on the track that they want to go on."


The part about not stepping on toes was important. Porter's reputation for bravado and bluster can be a positive if channeled in the context of team.

 

[JeffGollin]

This situation has the distinct aroma of a few years back when Vonnie Holliday and some other dude paid us a visit, said glowing things about us, left the Valley and quickly signed somewhere else.

I hope I'm wrong. From the standpoint of team-need, chemistry etc., the idea of signing the two of them seems almost too perfect top be true.

(Memo to RG - Barring one or more esoteric medical issues - this looks like a no-brainer. Don't think too much and don't get too cute. Just get the deals done and move onward. It's not like there's not more roster-building still to be done to occupy your time).

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Well, they could use the telegraph...

Smoke signals.

 

[lauraw]

Rod Graves, this has disaster written all over it, with your name.. You should'nt have let them leave without a contract signed in hand!!

 

[Renz]

Rod Graves, this has disaster written all over it, with your name.. You should'nt have let them leave without a contract signed in hand!!

If money is the issue then it is Bill Bidwill holding up the deal, not Rod Graves.

 

[Mulli]

Rod Graves, this has disaster written all over it, with your name.. You should'nt have let them leave without a contract signed in hand!!

Patience, grasshopper.

 

[Shane]

Let's not forget that after a meeting the feelings must be mutual. Who's to say Whiz came away confident in Porter's ability to be a team player etc etc. We don't even know if we still want one or either of them following the meeting.

 

[Renz]

From Urban's blog:

The linebacker situation
Posted by darrenurban on March 12, 2010 – 9:03 am


As the Cardinals continue the free-agent parade at the complex — QB Derek Anderson and LB Paris Lenon are visiting today — I know everyone is waiting for signings (besides Rex Hadnot, which will be official today). Here’s how I handicap the “big two” of Joey Porter and Larry Foote. Foote, I would suspect, would come quicker. To start, he sounds more determined to make the Cardinals his next team (not that Porter didn’t, but I think everyone could tell the difference). Porter is a bit older and knows this is probably his last significant contract, so he’s not going to settle and — unless he’s straight money-whipped, and I don’t see the Cards bidding against themselves — he’s going to look around and see if he can drive up the market.

I’m looking to the side of my screen here and see I have 50 comments to approve from last night, and I am guessing a chunk of them will be browbeating the team to pay Porter whatever it takes to get him in. We all know it doesn’t work like that, nor should it.

Speaking of linebackers, Lenon’s background puts him in the depth/special teams category I would guess.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Mike Lombardi, on the NFL Network, reports that Porter is looking for $6M per year. He adds that there are no takers at that price. So, we wait for the price to come down.

(I had suggested in an earlier post that his agent would probably start there, and Graves would initially say something north of $3.8 million. There is half way point to be found - IMO)

 

[overseascardfan]

Mike Lombardi, on the NFL Network, reports that Porter is looking for $6M per year. He adds that there are no takers at that price. So, we wait for the price to come down.

(I had suggested in an earlier post that his agent would probably start there, and Graves would initially say something north of $3.8 million. There is half way point to be found - IMO)

I don't see why we cannot go $5M, we gave that to both Okeafor and Berry, unless he is stuck on the $6M. A starting spot and $5M should be enough to seal the deal. Goes back to someone who mentioned Porter might be viewing this as his last chance for a payday. It will come down to us and SF with the highest bidder winning his services.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I don't see why we cannot go $5M, we gave that to both Okeafor and Berry, unless he is stuck on the $6M. A starting spot and $5M should be enough to seal the deal. Goes back to someone who mentioned Porter might be viewing this as his last chance for a payday. It will come down to us and SF with the highest bidder winning his services.

San Francisco has no real need at the position. So, at best, they'd hire him as a cheap spare part. Same with San Diego, and Seattle runs a 4-3.

I, too, believe that it will be about 5M, and thatthe Cards will be his next stop.

However, if he insists on 6M - he'll be sitting on a couch in Bakersfield on Sundays come September.