Q unhappy about being inactive today

[LVG]

Here's another take on the story:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2009/11/08/20091108cardsnotebook-CR.html

Just my 2 cents from reading that article, specifically this quote:

"I'd have probably felt better if somebody would have been man enough and walked up to me and told me what the situation was," he said, "but I had to walk back in the locker room and find all of my stuff gone."

It sounds like he was pissed no one told him - he found out when he got back to the locker room. Completely understandable - someone should have told him before it got to that point.

Poor personnel management - not that keeping him out was the wrong decision, but the way that it was communicated to Q.

He should be upset. If you were in a similar situation, you'd be pretty upset as well.

 

[TJ]

The reasons for letting Q go are mounting fast. Im not saying it was right to deactivate him the way they did, but he ignored his teammates and coaches the entire game, on top of complaining about his status after a TEAM victory. Not to mention the fact that we are 5-1 without him.

I love me some Anquan, but I'm starting to picture a 2010 Cards team sans Q and an extra draft pick or two

 

[Buckybird]

Boldin needs to use some common sense. He hasn't & wouldn't be any healthier if he would have played today. Boo hoo, cry me a river!!!

I would sit him again next week then play him against the lambs.

 

[wa52lz]

Just my 2 cents from reading that article, specifically this quote:



It sounds like he was pissed no one told him - he found out when he got back to the locker room. Completely understandable - someone should have told him before it got to that point.

Poor personnel management - not that keeping him out was the wrong decision, but the way that it was communicated to Q.

He should be upset. If you were in a similar situation, you'd be pretty upset as well.

Two sides to every story...
Coach Ken Whisenhunt disputed that version of events. He said he turned in the list of inactive players to officials just before the deadline, which is 90 minutes before the game.
After that meeting, Whisenhunt said he approached Boldin at the player's locker and told him he wasn't playing.
"I put his name down right before that 10:30 deadline," Whisenhunt said. "I was torn right up until that. He (Boldin) was still out on the field."
Two witnesses to Whisenhunt's conversation with Boldin said the receiver would not look at the coach during the conversation. One Cardinals veteran expressed surprise that Boldin would complain about the issue after a victory.
Over the past two seasons, the Cardinals are 5-1 in the games Boldin has missed.
The dispute Sunday probably can be blamed on timing.
Boldin said he "felt the best I have in three weeks" in pregame warm-ups, and wanted to play. Whisenhunt said a team equipment man probably saw the inactive list before Boldin because the receiver was still on the field. That's likely why the equipment was removed before Whisenhunt had a chance to talk to the receiver.

 

[LVG]

Whisenhunt said a team equipment man probably saw the inactive list before Boldin because the receiver was still on the field. That's likely why the equipment was removed before Whisenhunt had a chance to talk to the receiver.

Um, that actually confirms what I was saying. Q's notice didn't come from a coach, or a teammate - it came from him going into the locker room and finding no equipment in his locker.

 

[Fitz Rulz]

another James in his last days with the Cardinals

 

[Buckybird]

another James in his last days with the Cardinals

Maybe not that bad, but I dont think he respects the head coach. And yes, I see both sides of the coin. If I'm the Cards I grant Boldin his wish this offseason for the betterment of the team finacially.

 

[Buckybird]

Listen people..............

Q isn't going to get us a high return in a trade. I doubt he gets paid either. He used to be my favorite player, but we have put together a winner and I'm afaid Q's going to price himself out of his price range because he's no spring chicken. Too little too late.

We can at least get a #2 for him. You want him to play out his 2 years for nothing in return just like past Cardinal stars? Time to make the financial commitment to Breaston & say thanks to Q for some great memories. #81 isn't worth $7-9 mil for 12-14 games every season.

 

[Pariah]

Looks like I'm not alone... obviously, I agree 100%


http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest

If you're changing what you're saying to "I'd like to see him traded in the offseason," then no, you're not alone. If you're trying to tell me there is even one other person out there who want to see him "shipped out next week," then yeah, I'd say you are all alone on that one.

I actually thought he should have been traded THIS offseason, but no way in hell do I think the cardinals should release him. That's asinine.

 

[joeshmo]

Um, that actually confirms what I was saying. Q's notice didn't come from a coach, or a teammate - it came from him going into the locker room and finding no equipment in his locker.

Considering the HC has 53 other players to deal with and 12 coaches, and a ton of other pregame duties you really think coach was thinking about making sure he could get a hold of Q from the point he made the inactive list at 10:30 to the time Q got back to his locker? Its called logistics and there is only one coach in a small window of time. Coach doesn't need time to make sure a players feelings isn't hurt a hour before game time, his mind should be on the 40+ active players who are playing. If it was an assistant coach that was sent Q would have complained about that as well that HC didn't have the balls to talk to him he sent a crony. Sometimes people are just in the mood to say something, he is pissed he didn't play and would something to complain about if it wasn't this. No big deal sometimes people just get in one of those moods.

If Boldin wants to complaing about coach not being man enough dude needs to look in the mirror considering his own non-man behavior.

"Two witnesses to Whisenhunt's conversation with Boldin said the receiver would not look at the coach during the conversation. One Cardinals veteran expressed surprise that Boldin would complain about the issue after a victory."

I really don't care though. Its just star athletes being star athletes. We should be used to it by now. Warner complains, Ftiz complains, everyone complains. As long as they discuss it behind closed doors and it doesnt fester it isnt a big deal.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

And the quest to run Anquan Boldin out of town continues......


This kind of talk, at this stage of the season is pointless.

Anquan is on this team.

Anquan is unhappy ? What is new ?

No one was man enough to tell him he was not playing today? Well, duh...he should be happy. He works with smart men. I don't want to be the guy that tells Boldin he can't play in a football game. ESPECIALLY, we he is certain he can play.

But seriously, on this field, the guy is a beast and he is here for the rest of the season. It was smart to rest him, so Boldin can just do his job for this week and take a day off like he was told. End of Issue.

Now kick the ^%&*)($&^*)# out of the Seahawks AT HOME next week.

 

[seesred]

Coach made the only realistic decision. I would rather have a healthy Doucet than a limping Q. As it turns out Doucet had a not bad day and we may see him more this year with a healthy Q.

GBR
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[Azlen]

I see nothing wrong with Q being upset for not playing. No competitor would be happy with that. But to make it public and to claim that nobody was man enough to tell him was totally out of line.

 

[Buckybird]

Considering the HC has 53 other players to deal with and 12 coaches, and a ton of other pregame duties you really think coach was thinking about making sure he could get a hold of Q from the point he made the inactive list at 10:30 to the time Q got back to his locker? Its called logistics and there is only one coach in a small window of time. Coach doesn't need time to make sure a players feelings isn't hurt a hour before game time, his mind should be on the 40+ active players who are playing. If it was an assistant coach that was sent Q would have complained about that as well that HC didn't have the balls to talk to him he sent a crony. Sometimes people are just in the mood to say something, he is pissed he didn't play and would something to complain about if it wasn't this. No big deal sometimes people just get in one of those moods.

If Boldin wants to complaing about coach not being man enough dude needs to look in the mirror considering his own non-man behavior.

"Two witnesses to Whisenhunt's conversation with Boldin said the receiver would not look at the coach during the conversation. One Cardinals veteran expressed surprise that Boldin would complain about the issue after a victory."

I really don't care though. Its just star athletes being star athletes. We should be used to it by now. Warner complains, Ftiz complains, everyone complains. As long as they discuss it behind closed doors and it doesnt fester it isnt a big deal.

well said Joe. Sometimes Boldin's selfishness rubs me the wrong way. This & last years leaving the locker room after last seasons NFC championship really bum me out about the guy.

 

[dogpoo32]

i'm worried about his "man enough" comment... it was not necessary.

Well, if they were "Man enough" they could have told him. Worry all you want about players wanting to play. Oh no, he's a malcontent because he wants to be on the field instead of watching his team. Get a grip dude. How can you knock a guy for wanting to do his job?

 

[187]

I'd be more worried if he wasn't pissed about not getting to play. And it's not like he's going around openly complaining about it, reporters are asking him what he thinks and he is telling the truth. I am sure he is happy that we won, but that's not going to change the fact that he's a competitor and wants to be on the field. I wouldn't mind trading him if we could a decent draft pick or two in return, the team can win without him and we could have some major issues at LB if Dansby leaves and on the OL with Gandy up as a FA.

 

[Stout]

Well, if they were "Man enough" they could have told him. Worry all you want about players wanting to play. Oh no, he's a malcontent because he wants to be on the field instead of watching his team. Get a grip dude. How can you knock a guy for wanting to do his job?

Of course he wants to play, and that fire is something to be lauded. Complaining to the on-field reporter in pre-game and acting like he did and saying what he did after the game is stupid, childish behavior.

 

[doctor]

How bout a 2nd and 5th to KC and Todd Haley for Q next year

 

[Chopper0080]

In some ways I think that there isn't much here, but on the other hand there is a tidbit that does worry me long term.

First and foremost, I love that Boldin wants to be on the field, even injured. His competitiveness is what makes him such a good player and I worried about that over this entire contract dispute.

Secondly, I like that Whis can be the bad guy, and make the decision that is best for the team long term. I am also happy that Whis stuck to his normal pregame plan, and did not go out of his way to inform Boldin. He went to Boldin when he had time, and addressed the issue.

What worries me is, "One Cardinals veteran expressed surprise that Boldin would complain about the issue after a victory." Boldin is such a leader for this team, and I worry about this attitude undermining Whis with our younger players. Most prima donnas aren't team leaders, so there antics are kind of pushed to the side. With Boldin however, he is one of the teams leaders, and so is a big influence on our young players. I just hope that this bitterness doesn't spread.

In the end Boldin is watching his payday go down the tube. He is nearing 30, this is one of his last chances for a big payday, and he is blowing it. He is having a terrible year, and he is losing money every week that he isn't catching passes and scoring touchdowns. His skills may not be so diminished, but I am sure that he knows when you are near 30, even simple injuries affect your future dollars.

 

[TJ]

Considering the HC has 53 other players to deal with and 12 coaches, and a ton of other pregame duties you really think coach was thinking about making sure he could get a hold of Q from the point he made the inactive list at 10:30 to the time Q got back to his locker? Its called logistics and there is only one coach in a small window of time. Coach doesn't need time to make sure a players feelings isn't hurt a hour before game time, his mind should be on the 40+ active players who are playing. If it was an assistant coach that was sent Q would have complained about that as well that HC didn't have the balls to talk to him he sent a crony. Sometimes people are just in the mood to say something, he is pissed he didn't play and would something to complain about if it wasn't this. No big deal sometimes people just get in one of those moods.

If Boldin wants to complaing about coach not being man enough dude needs to look in the mirror considering his own non-man behavior.

"Two witnesses to Whisenhunt's conversation with Boldin said the receiver would not look at the coach during the conversation. One Cardinals veteran expressed surprise that Boldin would complain about the issue after a victory."

I really don't care though. Its just star athletes being star athletes. We should be used to it by now. Warner complains, Ftiz complains, everyone complains. As long as they discuss it behind closed doors and it doesnt fester it isnt a big deal.

There is a huge difference between telling Hermann Johnson he is scratched and telling Boldin. Allegedly, he is the heart and soul of this team and it would have been wise for one of the coaches (not necessarily Whis) to take 90 seconds to explain to him he's being deactivated. Its called "respect" and given what Q has done for this franchise on the field and for some of the younger players, he deserved at least a verbal heads up rather than removing his equipment from the locker.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Stop crying Q.

 

[Chopper0080]

Now, I have never coached at a higher level than high school, but the pregame preparation is logistically tough to manage as well as hectic. You are managing the different units, finalizing the game plan, and basically making all of the necessary rounds. Players move in and out of the locker room with their units, if they have any medical needs, or if they just want a bit more work in. It is so hard to find individuals in this mess that hunting down one player before the team meet before the game is just not possible. I Whis in this one bit, and would have thought that he wasn't doing his job if he stopped his pregame routine to address a minor issue like this.

 

[Doug]

I made a thread this week about for the betterment of the team we should sit Q and play Doucet who has been getting much of the 1st team reps with Kurt and Coach Whiz has said many very good things about him to the press and Darren Urban especially.

So I wanted Q to be sat down this week and figured last season a guy who is the offensive coordinator who was'nt afraid of Q like Todd Haley would probably be the guy instead of the head coach who would hand out news like that.Since our Head coach is our offensive coordinator its twice as hard.

Some alert staff member saw the inactive list and quickly removed Q's stuff without Q knowing about it.He probably thought he did and was just being efficient.

Someone told me that last year he's sure the head coach and not Haley would have been the one to tell the player.We see how hard that always is.I think Haley would have been the one myself.Haley & Q never got along well.

I also want Q to get as well as he can for the big run we need to make in the playoffs and as much rest as he can get will help the team.Doucet needs as many reps as he can get.I'm sure Q will be taking those reps from him this week to make sure he is playing.

Last year all the CARDINALS were offered was a 3rd round pick from the bears before the draft.So what makes everyone so sure after another injury prone year that we don't see any end in sight of a high ankle sprain,that Q could get us anything higher than a much later draft pick than a 3rd rounder as he's a year older.(I DON'T)

I don't want a 5th round pick for what we could get out of Q playing his last year with the CARDINALS next season with Warner playing out his contract.Q is a weapon that does'nt come along very often and will be playing his guts out in a contract season for himself.Good for him.Its better for us than a 5th round pick anyday.His contract is what it is.

Its also good that Doucet has been getting so many reps in the place of Boldin and Breaston who also has been from before the real season started limited in his practice time.Its time to see what we have in our 3rd rounder in Doucet.So he caught the 4 balls thrown to him today with no drops.Thats what we needed.He is no Q by a million miles even if they are built somewhat similar in height and weight.

I'm glad Doucets broken ribs are healed and he can help out a team that needs every reciever it can have of its 6 that are on the team.Sean Morey being the 6th.We are a passing team first and we have 4 running backs and one fullback that does'nt do that great of a job really and can't catch the ball at ALL!!!

We don't have to worry about what Q says as long as he plays for himself and the money he wants after his CARDINALS contract runs out.Thats the smart thing to do.Warner is gonna finish his contract,just watch.I'm sure he'd love to have Fitz and Q as he thought when he signed his two year contract.It should work out just right.Then Matt or whoever can take over and we will have picked up someone with some speed and developed them by then.Probably getting rid of Urban if he can't improve.

So to win it ALL we need ALL of our players.Q & Doucet & Fitz & Breaston etc.......Let the ones that practice play.So the timing won't be shot.Like Warner said get more of the DETAILS DOWN!!!

 

[Gee!]

What the hell is wrong with Q? Seems to me that Whis made decision with under a minute left to make the decision and they couldnt get to Q to tell him immedtiatly.. Then Q voices his displeasure after an incredible victory.. Wow..

 

[az1965]

Um, that actually confirms what I was saying. Q's notice didn't come from a coach, or a teammate - it came from him going into the locker room and finding no equipment in his locker.

So?

What a cry baby he is becoming...