Q unhappy about being inactive today

[az1965]

If you're changing what you're saying to "I'd like to see him traded in the offseason," then no, you're not alone. If you're trying to tell me there is even one other person out there who want to see him "shipped out next week," then yeah, I'd say you are all alone on that one.

I actually thought he should have been traded THIS offseason, but no way in hell do I think the cardinals should release him. That's asinine.

Next week? No one can be "shipped out" next week... the trade deadline is gone. I don't think I said "next week".

 

[WildBB]

He felt he should be out there. Deserved to be playing. He's given a lot to this franchise. He's one of the two longest tenured Cardinals.That's all. He spoke out of frustration. I think he deserved to be spoken to before the decision was made, or that it was being considered.

 

[Gee!]

He felt he should be out there. Deserved to be playing. He's given a lot to this franchise. He's one of the two longest tenured Cardinals.That's all. He spoke out of frustration. I think he deserved to be spoken to before the decision was made, or that it was being considered.

Id consider the talk of it all week long enuff for Q to know it was an option.. And from what I read, the decision was made with under a minute left to make the decision.. Q wasnt around in time for them to tell him.. It also appears a coach did tell him, and Q wouldnt look him in the eyes when being told..

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Whis should tell him "I am man enough to sit you next week as well if you keep putting stuff out to the media."

Grown ass man needs to grow the heck up

 

[az1965]

I really don't care though. Its just star athletes being star athletes. We should be used to it by now. Warner complains, Ftiz complains, everyone complains. As long as they discuss it behind closed doors and it doesnt fester it isnt a big deal.

But Boldin's complains ARE festering and coming at the most inappropriate times... it seems like the teammates are also getting tired of it.

 

[az1965]

Whis should tell him "I am man enough to sit you next week as well if you keep putting stuff out to the media."

Grown ass man needs to grow the heck up

I think he should... he did bench Edge. I think he should bench Q to let him know that he is man enough to do exactly that.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I've thought all along that they should've traded him when his value was at it's highest. The offense has shown that it is still very proficient without him. He's a great player but the numbers,and wins, the Cards put up without him shows they can move on without him and be fine. Plus,he still has trade value. I doubt they get a #1 for him like could have last year but if Braylon Edwards can still bring in a 2nd rounder then Boldin certainly can.

 

[Totally_Red]

And the quest to run Anquan Boldin out of town continues......


This kind of talk, at this stage of the season is pointless.

Anquan is on this team.

Anquan is unhappy ? What is new ?

No one was man enough to tell him he was not playing today? Well, duh...he should be happy. He works with smart men. I don't want to be the guy that tells Boldin he can't play in a football game. ESPECIALLY, we he is certain he can play.

But seriously, on this field, the guy is a beast and he is here for the rest of the season. It was smart to rest him, so Boldin can just do his job for this week and take a day off like he was told. End of Issue.

Now kick the ^%&*)($&^*)# out of the Seahawks AT HOME next week.

Finally the voice of reason. I have to laugh at all the "we don't need Boldin get rid of him talk". Yeah he's a competitor who wants to play and is very unhappy with his contract. But to say that the Cardinals won't need him against superior opponents like Minnesota and for the post-season is naive IMO. Hey, the Colts are undefeated without Bob Sanders but I'm sure Jim Caldwell would love to have him next week against New England and for the post-season run. They have won without Sanders but that really doesn't mean they are as good a team without him. Same with the Cardinals and Anquan Boldin. Especially a rested and healthier Boldin.

Fans understandably get upset when players mouth off and say stupid things like Anquan Boldin did on Sunday. IMO, he should apologize to Whis for the 'man enough' statement. That was uncalled for. But Whis should clearly explain his thinking if he hasn't already.

Whis made exactly the right decision IMO. But I always want my star players to want to be on the field even if they are not 100%. Q was a warrior when called upon in week one when Steve Breaston couldn't go and Doucet was hurt. The lesson there is that you can never have enough quality receivers especially with a pass-dependent offense like the Cardinals have.

The Cardinals will need Q on Sunday against Seattle IMO. Don't underestimate the Seahawks. I thought Marcus Trufant played at a very high level on Sunday against the Lions. They are very capable of coming into U of P and laying a loss on us, especially the way this team has so been up and down this season.

 

[Shogun]

While I'm fine with he decision not to play him, I'd be pretty miffed, too, if I found out I wasn't going to play by having my locker cleaned out.

 

[cardpa]

I honestly could care less if Q is in a Cardinal uniform next season. He is not necessary to a winning formula. It has been proven again and again that the team can win without him. Does he bring some aspects to the game for the Cardinals, in a word yes, however he is not the impact player many thinks he is. Seemed to me the offense functioned quite well without him. Does it change how or what play may be run without him? Yes however once again it did not affect the efficiency of the offense.

Why can't he just be happy for the team and the guys who did play. I get the impression he doesn't like Whiz and will do anything to put him in a bad light regardless of whether its good for the team or not. He has a personal agenda against Whiz.

 

[PACardsFan]

While I'm fine with he decision not to play him, I'd be pretty miffed, too, if I found out I wasn't going to play by having my locker cleaned out.

That may be the case if you're in High School! I'm sure that every NFL team has a process or protocol that they use in such a situation. Let's face it, Boldin is a leader on this team through his actions ON the field. He doesn't and never has exhibited leadership skills through his verbal rants off the field. He tends to talk before he thinks. That being said, he will heal & he will help us this year. I'd like to see the Cardinals sit him again next week & then he'll come back & be a huge factor down the stretch. Boldin needs to heal, keep his mouth shut & then produce on the field. I believe he will!!!

 

[moklerman]

As some have noted, this isn't about Q being upset about not playing or being surprised about his locker being packed up it's about his comments and decision to comment on the situation.

Questioning the integrity of the coach is never a good harbinger and the fact that Q's instinct was to take the situation personally all point to a situation that the Card's don't really need as a distraction.

As far as the decision to sit him, I'm 100% in agreement. First, if Q had had the chance to dress he would have and Whis would have had to deal with telling/getting him to undress. I'm sure he didn't want Q in his ear all game long saying he was ready to play and being forced to have someone steal his helmet on the sideline.

Also, I think Whis wanted to get a look at the offense with a little speed at WR. Did anyone else notice they finally started throwing the quick hitters and bubble screens that were a staple last year? Boldin's toughness may not be what's best for this offense at this point.

Hopefully Whis continues his mastery of player manipulation and gets the best out of Q but if Q sitting out of a game means the Cards are going to score 40+ points and Doucet is going to get on the field instead of Urban then I'm not against Q sitting for a few more weeks if longer.

It's no secret that there can't be two #1 WR's on a team. We all hoped that Fitz and Q could co-exist and the Cardinals could have a 1a & 1b WR but with such a drastic difference in the offense over the last couple of years when Q is out it's becoming very hard to hold onto that hope. When it's Fitz, Steve and the rest everyone knows their role and there's no debate. Lately, it seems that when it's Fitz, Q, Steve and the rest there is a discontent amongst the WR corps. Fitz isn't happy with his touches, Q isn't happy with his and Warner isn't completely free to just spread the ball around.

I think he tries to make one or the other of Fitz and Q happy at times and that's usually counterproductive. The stat aspect of this is troubling. In '08 & '09 when Q is out of the lineup we all know the Card's are 5-1 but it's possible that that can be misleading. However, Warner's efficiency and production are strikingly different too. Warner has thrown for 15 TD and 3 INT without Q. The sample size is still probably too small but 5+ games(the "+" is the NE game last year that would be hard to consider as part of the sample) can certainly be offered as more than a fluke.

 

[Pariah]

Next week? No one can be "shipped out" next week... the trade deadline is gone. I don't think I said "next week".

Well, it's a good thing it's easy to check. See post #7 of this thread.

 

[DeAnna]

Well, if they were "Man enough" they could have told him. Worry all you want about players wanting to play.

But according to eye witnesses, Whis did tell him. In person. Unfortunately, he had already noticed his equipment gone. For Q to come out and state a flat out lie is pretty low. Everything with him is an afront to his "manhood."

 

[Rivercard]

Sometimes going down is better than taking on 4 guys.

Paging Dr. Freud.........

 

[Buckybird]

But according to eye witnesses, Whis did tell him. In person. Unfortunately, he had already noticed his equipment gone. For Q to come out and state a flat out lie is pretty low. Everything with him is an afront to his "manhood."

Yep.

Q look pissed on the sidelines all day, covered in his hoody on a beautiful 60 degree day. This is the 2nd time know he has spoken out against his HC & really believe he doesn't care for Wiz that much. Cry me a river Quan, the Coach did the best thing for the team yesterday & hope he does it 1 more week.

 

[chickenhead]

With Q's injury history it's going to be difficult to get a good return in a trade (especially considering the lack of offers last offseason). Other teams are going to bank on the Cardinals' interest in a salaray dump. More than anything, I'm worried that Q starts asking for his release. In any case, there's nothing the Cardinals should consider other than playing him, or making a worthwhile trade.

On another team maybe he is a #1. On this team he' a great #2 because of Fitz, and as time goes on that's what he'll be in other team's eyes as well. It's starting to look like his best move might be to get the Cardinals to a point where they offer him a deal with a nice signing bonus.

 

[Shane]

But according to eye witnesses, Whis did tell him. In person. Unfortunately, he had already noticed his equipment gone. For Q to come out and state a flat out lie is pretty low. Everything with him is an afront to his "manhood."

actually he didn't lie. He found out he wasn't playing exactly the way he stated. Whiz came and spoke to him after the fact.

Last night on NFL network Steve Marriucci and Deion Sanders said that they both agreed with Q about the way it was done and they understood why he was miffed. Marriucci stated that as a coach he believed that a player like Q with his stature should be told right on the field during warm ups face to face by the HC and nobody else. They agreed Whiz handled it wrong andvthats coming from 2 guys who should know and do know the etiquette in that situation.

However they both also agreed that Q popping off after the game isnt smart either.

 

[PJ1]

actually he didn't lie. He found out he wasn't playing exactly the way he stated. Whiz came and spoke to him after the fact.

Last night on NFL network Steve Marriucci and Deion Sanders said that they both agreed with Q about the way it was done and they understood why he was miffed. Marriucci stated that as a coach he believed that a player like Q with his stature should be told right on the field during warm ups face to face by the HC and nobody else. They agreed Whiz handled it wrong andvthats coming from 2 guys who should know and do know the etiquette in that situation.

However they both also agreed that Q popping off after the game isnt smart either.

And I heard Sanders & Michael Irvin say he wouldn't have reacted the way he did had he received the contract he wanted. I like Q alot but don't bitch to the media after a big win. No excuse for it in my opinion.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Huh? Boldin is whinning again?? Man, what a surprise...

Look, the guy has more warrior in him than most teams collectively offer. We get that.
I also believe Q believes that this team has the best chance to win when he's in the game (though, I think our W-L record with him out of the game isn't all that bad!).
And, I also believe that Q see's the team do so well, and see's Fitz go off just about every time he's out of the game. Yesterday was another example.
All of that is indeed a huge hit to Q's ego. So, after the game he's steaming and some reporter sticks a mic in his face. You would like to think that Q could man-up, be more like Fitz and others, and simply not address the situation or at minimum, diffuse it... But no... Q can't control his emotions at times like this. He believes he deserves more. He's due more respect.

The bottom line is that Q simply can't accept being second fiddle on this team. His "manhood"... his ego, and his wallet just can't accept it. Which means that Q's days in Arizona are indeed limited and drawing to a close. I just hope we can get something decent in return.

 

[TJ]

actually he didn't lie. He found out he wasn't playing exactly the way he stated. Whiz came and spoke to him after the fact.

Last night on NFL network Steve Marriucci and Deion Sanders said that they both agreed with Q about the way it was done and they understood why he was miffed. Marriucci stated that as a coach he believed that a player like Q with his stature should be told right on the field during warm ups face to face by the HC and nobody else. They agreed Whiz handled it wrong andvthats coming from 2 guys who should know and do know the etiquette in that situation.

However they both also agreed that Q popping off after the game isnt smart either.

That's exactly how I feel, Shane. Both parties are in the wrong in some way shape or form.

 

[joeshmo]

They agreed Whiz handled it wrong and thats coming from 2 guys who should know and do know the etiquette in that situation.

Sanders giving advice on etiquette. The ultimate "me" player, gun for higher, gets college players kicked out of school and gets teams into trouble for tampering. That same Sanders. Getting etiquette lessons from Sanders is like getting GM lessons from Matt Millen. Same goes to Marruicci who held the hands of two of the ultimate ME players in the league in Owens and Favre. Of course thats how the failed coach Marruicci would deal with it thats how he was forced to deal with Favre and Owens.

Also the idea of telling him on the field falls flat becuase Wiz didnt decide until the last possible moment and had to give the officials the inactive lists while Boldin was still on the field. Considering it is due at a specific time and it was last minute choice I excuse Wiz for not taking time to stroke a players ego instead of following league rules. We dont know if Boldin was still on the field after Wiz had to give the inactive list and a plethora of other duties he has. Since we dont know the timelines for us or those two clowns on NLFN to say Wiz was at fault is speculative.

All we know is that Boldin insulted coach, and it isnt his first time, after a win no less. Making veterans in the actual locker wonder what the heck Boldin is spouting off for. Who cares if he spouted off about wanting to play but that isnt what he did, He insulted the coach, acted like a spoiled child and did it after a win like a baby.

I am surprised how easily you excuse this considering how badly you ripped Fitz for something his brother said and his body launguage. Boldin not only had the same body launguage but he insulted the coach as well. He deserves the same amount of speculative backlash.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Sanders giving advice on etiquette. The ultimate "me" player, gun for higher, gets college players kicked out of school and gets teams into trouble for tampering. That same Sanders. Getting etiquette lessons from Sanders is like getting GM lessons from Matt Millen. Same goes to Marruicci who held the hands of two of the ultimate ME players in the league in Owens and Favre. Of course thats how the failed coach Marruicci would deal with it thats how he was forced to deal with Favre and Owens.

Also the idea of telling him on the field falls flat becuase Wiz didnt decide until the last possible moment and had to give the officials the inactive lists while Boldin was still on the field. Considering it is due at a specific time and it was last minute choice I excuse Wiz for not taking time to stroke a players ego instead of following league rules. We dont know if Boldin was still on the field after Wiz had to give the inactive list and a plethora of other duties he has. Since we dont know the timelines for us or those two clowns on NLFN to say Wiz was at fault is speculative.

All we know is that Boldin insulted coach, and it isnt his first time, after a win no less. Making veterans in the actual locker wonder what the heck Boldin is spouting off for. Who cares if he spouted off about wanting to play but that isnt what he did, He insulted the coach, acted like a spoiled child and did it after a win like a baby.

I am surprised how easily you excuse this considering how badly you ripped Fitz for something his brother said and his body launguage. Boldin not only had the same body launguage but he insulted the coach as well. He deserves the same amount of speculative backlash.

Didn't want to go there with Shane... but, I like that you did! LMAO!

 

[joeshmo]

That's exactly how I feel, Shane. Both parties are in the wrong in some way shape or form.

Both parties are not in the wrong. It is not up to the HC to cater to fragile WR egos. It is his job to cater to the team. And Wiz never insulted Boldin, But Boldin felt the need he had to.

 

[DieHardCardFan]

Good he should be upset. Thats what a competitor is supposed to feel like. Still was right decision by the coach.

Exactly!!! If he wasnt upset I would be pissed. The guy wants to play and believes he is going to make a positive difference. coach made the right call though and my guess is Q will come to that realization on his own. People are over reacting to this big time IMO.