Rob Housler TE Cards 3rd round pick

[CtCardinals78]

I'm not naive enough to think that my opinion matters.

I highly doubt many on here think their opinion matters in the long run. You did have the opinion that this place sounds like a pre-school though and you thought that mattered to share with us. I'm just wondering if you think these have been good and prudent picks?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Like I said the Cards could draft the waterboy, (sorry but Sandler went to the Patriots at #33) from Central Florida and the janitor from Boston College and several people on here would be happy with the picks.

IMO this is what the crowd calling for BPA get. Seriously the team is going against it's Need based approach that most of you lemmings are so against.

What do you guys want? For the team to sit back and fill needs or draft the best players regardless of position? I don't like the BPA approach, this what it looks like IMO.

 

[D-Dogg]

Wally, why are his catches so low? He's got measurables, but for a "pass-catching" TE, his numbers are baloney. Is that a product of the offense, the QB, something else?

Wally, in case you don't see it.

 

[Southpaw]

Wally, why are his catches so low? He's got measurables, but for a "pass-catching" TE, his numbers are baloney. Is that a product of the offense, the QB, something else?

This was a down year for FAU. He caught 7 balls for 75 yds against Mich State, in a loss. He caught 2 for 2 tds, including a 56 yarder against Texas this year. He caught 39 balls this year for over 600 yds. .

BTW, he is a multi talented athlete. 16 foot pole vaulter in High School. He is a very talented kid on a bad football team.

 

[Zeno]

IMO this is what the crowd calling for BPA get. Seriously the team is going against it's Need based approach that most of you lemmings are so against.

What do you guys want? For the team to sit back and fill needs or draft the best players regardless of position? I don't like the BPA approach, this what it looks like IMO.

You seriously think this guy was BPA? Seriously?

 

[PJ1]

IMO this is what the crowd calling for BPA get. Seriously the team is going against it's Need based approach that most of you lemmings are so against.

What do you guys want? For the team to sit back and fill needs or draft the best players regardless of position? I don't like the BPA approach, this what it looks like IMO.

So Housler was the BPA when we picked? Seriously?

 

[binkar]

And the 1000s of other people who are heavily into the NFL draft never mentioned this guy as our potential 3rd round pick?

Sorry but if we were fans of a team that had a long history of taking guys like this and making it work it would be different. But the Cards have a long history of taking guys like this who are out of the NFL by October of the following year.

So we have a group of people whose talent evaluation is suspect drafting guys for positions they never use high in the draft especially after having just used their #1 pick on one of those positions in 2009 and just had their top 10 first round QB wash out. That doesn't bother you?

Am I disappointed by Leinart and Wells? Obviously. I just get bothered when people go off tearing this player and the front office apart, when they have never seen the guy play. How can you really make an educated opinion? We always buy into the guys who get public hype, and when we pass on them we are convinced the front office did an awful job. Some of our best picks of the last few years were the most scrutinized, whereas some of the worst were most publicly applauded (Leinart, Wells, etc.). Not trying to attack everyone, just trying to be level-headed.

 

[Krangodnzr]

How many people have ever seen the kid play? He ran a 4.46/4.55(seen both printed) at the combine so obviously the Cards think he can be a weapon in the pass game.


I don't get why everyone sits there and rips Kiper and McShay etc and then during the draft they freak out when the draft grade of someone we pick is bad, when that grade is coming from Kiper and McShay.

Exactly. Total histrionics.

Most of these prospects are going to suck and a lot of you are forgetting that.

 

[D-Dogg]

IMO this is what the crowd calling for BPA get. Seriously the team is going against it's Need based approach that most of you lemmings are so against.

What do you guys want? For the team to sit back and fill needs or draft the best players regardless of position? I don't like the BPA approach, this what it looks like IMO.

I find it REALLY hard to believe that they are drafting BPA here. They would either have to think this guy was outstanding (and be the only ones who do) or think other guys around him are terrible in comparison (which having a lot of the need targets being snapped up right after this pick not balance that out).

Dunno, but it doesn't look like BPA.

 

[Krangodnzr]

You seriously think this guy was BPA? Seriously?

Maybe. I don't watch film/workouts of 1000 players. Do you?

 

[clif]

IMO this is what the crowd calling for BPA get. Seriously the team is going against it's Need based approach that most of you lemmings are so against.

What do you guys want? For the team to sit back and fill needs or draft the best players regardless of position? I don't like the BPA approach, this what it looks like IMO.

They have always said that they take a modified BPA approach. Under that scenario you take the BPA with consideration for position. Everybody and their mama had Ryan Mallet at or near the top of the list with regards to Best remaining (at a position of enormous need) and we pass him up to take a player at a position that is rarely if ever used by this staff. Even after they drafted yet another TE.

 

[D-Dogg]

This was a down year for FAU. He caught 7 balls for 75 yds against Mich State, in a loss. He caught 2 for 2 tds, including a 56 yarder against Texas this year. He caught 36 balls this year.

BTW, he is a multi talented athlete. 16 foot pole vaulter in High School. He is a very talented kid on a bad football team.

That's what I was wondering about...sounds like the team was bad and couldn't get him the ball, then? Or did they even utilize the TE much in the offense?

I want to like the kid...he's got great measurables. I am wary of the lack of on-field production.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Ok so most of you talk up Mike Mayock and down the other clowns all the time.

Then they all rate a player we draft low, but Mayock really likes him. So you go off the clowns' information and not Mayock. Consistency anyone?

 

[D-Dogg]

They have always said that they take a modified BPA approach. Under that scenario you take the BPA with consideration for position. Everybody and their mama had Ryan Mallet at or near the top of the list with regards to Best remaining (at a position of enormous need) and we pass him up to take a player at a position that is rarely if ever used by this staff. Even after they drafted yet another TE.

Mallett is a douche...I don't think Whis wanted any part of him. I am surprised with LBs on board, though.

 

[Zeno]

Maybe. I don't watch film/workouts of 1000 players. Do you?

No but I can read....when every scouting report says the same thing they can't all be wrong.

I am willing to admit if any player is better than I thought he would be(I was way wrong when we signed Gandy)...are you ever willing to admit that the Front Office was wrong?

 

[CtCardinals78]

Ok so most of you talk up Mike Mayock and down the other clowns all the time.

Then they all rate a player we draft low, but Mayock really likes him. So you go off the clowns' information and not Mayock. Consistency anyone?

I don't doubt this kid has talent, but I also don't doubt the Cards could have gotten him in the 5th round.

 

[Krangodnzr]

They have always said that they take a modified BPA approach. Under that scenario you take the BPA with consideration for position. Everybody and their mama had Ryan Mallet at or near the top of the list with regards to Best remaining (at a position of enormous need) and we pass him up to take a player at a position that is rarely if ever used by this staff. Even after they drafted yet another TE.

But as Kerouac astutely has pointed out OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, if you are serious about Skelton being developed, you don't take Ryan Mallett high.

There just aren't enough snaps to go around.

 

[Zeno]

That's what I was wondering about...sounds like the team was bad and couldn't get him the ball, then? Or did they even utilize the TE much in the offense?

I want to like the kid...he's got great measurables. I am wary of the lack of on-field production.

The scouting reports I read he got most of his stats out of the slot and not as a traditional TE, so any receiving yards he got have to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Mallett is a douche...I don't think Whis wanted any part of him. I am surprised with LBs on board, though.

Which now makes me wish we had Mallett even more.

 

[clif]

Mallett is a douche...I don't think Whis wanted any part of him. I am surprised with LBs on board, though.

Fine. Then we are not following the BPA theory then.

 

[Duckjake]

IMO this is what the crowd calling for BPA get. Seriously the team is going against it's Need based approach that most of you lemmings are so against.

What do you guys want? For the team to sit back and fill needs or draft the best players regardless of position? I don't like the BPA approach, this what it looks like IMO.

This would be a great post except those two weren't BPA when we picked.

 

[PJ1]

Ok so most of you talk up Mike Mayock and down the other clowns all the time.

Then they all rate a player we draft low, but Mayock really likes him. So you go off the clowns' information and not Mayock. Consistency anyone?

Mayock did say nice things about him but he was nowhere to be found on his list of best players available at that point. Mayock doesn't bash an organization or its picks as easily as Kiper.

 

[Krangodnzr]

No but I can read....when every scouting report says the same thing they can't all be wrong.

Scouting reports written by real scouts or Mel Kiper? Why is it that these guys are WAY wrong all the time? Is it that there is some difference on opinions on players and that this process is subjective. I argue this every year, good draft or bad draft. It's the same annoying song and dance every year on this board.

I am willing to admit if any player is better than I thought he would be(I was way wrong when we signed Gandy)...are you ever willing to admit that the Front Office was wrong?

The front office is wrong most of the time. I just don't make judgments on players I've never watched, and I also trust the opinion of Mike Mayock.

 

[D-Dogg]

Fine. Then we are not following the BPA theory then.

I don't think we really do. I think we throw both need and character into the BP assessment.

Which isn't a bad thing, really.

 

[PJ1]

I don't doubt this kid has talent, but I also don't doubt the Cards could have gotten him in the 5th round.

Exactly. You would be hard pressed to find anyone projecting this guy anywhere in the 3rd round.