Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)

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At least we know that this Death Star won't be blown up at the end of the movie.
 

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Yeah that's tough. I know I liked TFA more than you did even though we shared some of the same issues (another Death Star etc.). However, I wonder if the movie made historical amounts of cash because it was a competent Star Wars compared to the prequels or did fans simply love that film?

What I mean is, if all you have to do is make a competent Star Wars film it will make similar money.

oh... no way this makes similar money. There were a number of factors that made the new Star Wars the phenomenon it was, but the biggest IMO was that it was a continuation of the story everyone was DYING for for 30 years, with ALL of the characters we loved. That plus it being at the very worst competent for pretty much everyone (even the people like me who were entertained but had massive issues with the lack of originality), and beloved by A LOT of people, is what made it soar.

My guess is this likely tops out at 250-300 domestic.
 

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oh... no way this makes similar money. There were a number of factors that made the new Star Wars the phenomenon it was, but the biggest IMO was that it was a continuation of the story everyone was DYING for for 30 years, with ALL of the characters we loved. That plus it being at the very worst competent for pretty much everyone (even the people like me who were entertained but had massive issues with the lack of originality), and beloved by A LOT of people, is what made it soar.

My guess is this likely tops out at 250-300 domestic.

My guess is about 400 to 500 simply because it's Star Wars and you will get some people that were so happy with the other that it carries over a bit to the first anthology film.
 
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oh... no way this makes similar money. There were a number of factors that made the new Star Wars the phenomenon it was, but the biggest IMO was that it was a continuation of the story everyone was DYING for for 30 years, with ALL of the characters we loved. That plus it being at the very worst competent for pretty much everyone (even the people like me who were entertained but had massive issues with the lack of originality), and beloved by A LOT of people, is what made it soar.

My guess is this likely tops out at 250-300 domestic.

I bet it blows the doors off that prediction. I already want to see this one a couple of times in the theater. If it can really capture the feel of the first trilogy they've got solid gold on their hands. Personally, I hope it does really well so they'll continue to make stories set in the same universe regardless of whether it involves any Skywalkers, Solo, force users, etc.
 
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My guess is about 400 to 500 simply because it's Star Wars and you will get some people that were so happy with the other that it carries over a bit to the first anthology film.

Probably more likely to get the people that were disappointed in the re-imagining of A New Hope that will want to see a fresh original film set in the Star Wars universe.
 

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Probably more likely to get the people that were disappointed in the re-imagining of A New Hope that will want to see a fresh original film set in the Star Wars universe.

Yeah maybe but that group is small. You can't earn a billion dollars in box office if the majority of people were disappointed. Especially since it takes a ton of repeat viewings by movie goers to get to that number.
 
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My guess is about 400 to 500 simply because it's Star Wars and you will get some people that were so happy with the other that it carries over a bit to the first anthology film.

Your last point could be... But I'll be really surprised if it gets that high. It's a Star Wars movie... But it's a Star Wars movie without ANY of the beloved characters from the movies. Will be super interesting to see how it plays.
 

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Your last point could be... But I'll be really surprised if it gets that high. It's a Star Wars movie... But it's a Star Wars movie without ANY of the beloved characters from the movies. Will be super interesting to see how it plays.

It's rumored to have Vader and not just a lame cameo. It's one of the most beloved if not the most beloved of all the characters?! I am also assuming that rumor is true but I have no clue. You don't think that has a major impact?
 

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It's rumored to have Vader and not just a lame cameo. It's one of the most beloved if not the most beloved of all the characters?! I am also assuming that rumor is true but I have no clue. You don't think that has a major impact?

Some... But not in a way that brings in 500 million domestic. Could certainly be wrong.
 
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Yeah maybe but that group is small. You can't earn a billion dollars in box office if the majority of people were disappointed. Especially since it takes a ton of repeat viewings by movie goers to get to that number.

I am an old school Star Wars fan. Old enough to have seen the original Star Wars (1977) when it was first released in theaters. Been obsessed with all things Star Wars ever since.

I saw TFA and enjoyed it. Loved that it was so much better than the prequels, but still have criticisms of the direction they went with the film. I wish it had been much more original rather than a re-telling of the first film with new characters. Seems like lazy writing to me. Still better than the prequels but not even close to the original trilogy, IMHO. It had a chance to be spectacular, fresh, and new and went the easy route instead.

Even with its faults, several friends of mine saw TFA multiple times. Most were younger and seemed caught up in the hype (ala Titanic). Others were just pleased to have something set in the Star Wars universe that was better than the prequels.

This new anthology film looks great and takes us back to a time before the original trilogy. Loved seeing the old school storm troopers, AT-AT's walking in a non-Hoth environment, Emperor's Royal Guard, rebel base, original Death Star, Mon Mothma, possibly Grand Moff Tarkin and Vader, etc. I think this will really interest the diehards from my generation that will not only see it, but likely see it multiple times on the big screen.
 

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I am an old school Star Wars fan. Old enough to have seen the original Star Wars (1977) when it was first released in theaters. Been obsessed with all things Star Wars ever since.

I saw TFA and enjoyed it. Loved that it was so much better than the prequels, but still have criticisms of the direction they went with the film. I wish it had been much more original rather than a re-telling of the first film with new characters. Seems like lazy writing to me. Still better than the prequels but not even close to the original trilogy, IMHO. It had a chance to be spectacular, fresh, and new and went the easy route instead.

Even with its faults, several friends of mine saw TFA multiple times. Most were younger and seemed caught up in the hype (ala Titanic). Others were just pleased to have something set in the Star Wars universe that was better than the prequels.

This new anthology film looks great and takes us back to a time before the original trilogy. Loved seeing the old school storm troopers, AT-AT's walking in a non-Hoth environment, Emperor's Royal Guard, rebel base, original Death Star, Mon Mothma, possibly Grand Moff Tarkin and Vader, etc. I think this will really interest the diehards from my generation that will not only see it, but likely see it multiple times on the big screen.

Although I didn't get to see the first one in Theaters I did see every film since in theaters and went to the premiere here at Cine Capri for Empire Strikes back. Also, like you a huge fan. I am a die hard as are many of my friends. Most of us thought the criticisms of TFA were very minor and loved the film. We all watched it multiple times. Most fans I know of that watched it multiple times absolutely loved the movie.

One thing we did each time was get there early so we could talk to fans in line. One thing that we kept hearing over an over was this was their 2nd or 3rd favorite of all the films. Count me in that group. Count most of my friends in the groups sans one that felt the way you described above. I seriously doubt you would get mass multiple viewings unless you thought the movie was great. Just my opinion.


 

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Did anybody notice the scene in the trailer at about the 1:18 mark of the trailer. Was Vader actually in the trailer after all?

You see a figure in a dark robe with two of the Emperor's Royal Guards. Notice in that scene he is kneeling at a platform just like when Vader talks to a hologram of the Emperor. It can't be the Emperor because he wouldn't kneel to anybody. The Royal guard wouldn't be present unless it has something to do with the Emperor...which is why I think it's a hologram communication.

So, in essence it's one of two things. It's either Vader (but why is he wearing a robe) or it's some new villain. Maybe force sensitive like an Inquisitor since we know they are cannon now and existed when Vader was around to help hunt the forming rebels. That we be a very cool tie in IMO.

I can't believe I didn't notice that before. Holy crap. I think we just got a quick view of a new major player on the side of the Empire or a confirmation Vader is in the film.
 
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Yeah maybe but that group is small. You can't earn a billion dollars in box office if the majority of people were disappointed. Especially since it takes a ton of repeat viewings by movie goers to get to that number.

Batman V. Superman is likely going to prove the theory above wrong.
 

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Batman V. Superman is likely going to prove the theory above wrong.

How so? It's Domestic take is at 270 million compared to almost a billion domestic?! I won't begin to even talk about foreign market which is a strange bird. However, when the movie was first announced people were expecting much bigger things for that movie domestically since it's one of the most popular story lines in the DC universe.
 

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How so? It's Domestic take is at 270 million compared to almost a billion domestic?! I won't begin to even talk about foreign market which is a strange bird. However, when the movie was first announced people were expecting much bigger things for that movie domestically since it's one of the most popular story lines in the DC universe.

Oh, i thought you were talking about worldwide.
 

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So any thoughts on the 1:18 mark of the trailer?
 

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i think the spectre of Vader will loom over the movie, and he'll be a certain presence, but if you're expecting 30 minutes of hot Vader action, I think you'll be disappointed.
 

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I am an old school Star Wars fan. Old enough to have seen the original Star Wars (1977) when it was first released in theaters. Been obsessed with all things Star Wars ever since.

I saw TFA and enjoyed it. Loved that it was so much better than the prequels, but still have criticisms of the direction they went with the film. I wish it had been much more original rather than a re-telling of the first film with new characters. Seems like lazy writing to me. Still better than the prequels but not even close to the original trilogy, IMHO. It had a chance to be spectacular, fresh, and new and went the easy route instead.

Even with its faults, several friends of mine saw TFA multiple times. Most were younger and seemed caught up in the hype (ala Titanic). Others were just pleased to have something set in the Star Wars universe that was better than the prequels.

This new anthology film looks great and takes us back to a time before the original trilogy. Loved seeing the old school storm troopers, AT-AT's walking in a non-Hoth environment, Emperor's Royal Guard, rebel base, original Death Star, Mon Mothma, possibly Grand Moff Tarkin and Vader, etc. I think this will really interest the diehards from my generation that will not only see it, but likely see it multiple times on the big screen.
Perfectly written post.

When I first saw TFA, I left the theater saying, "loved it"...and as more time passed (I'm talking hours, not days) I realized it wasn't as great as I thought in the theater, and ultimately disappointed. Could have been SO MUCH more. We're the same age (give or take) and my love for all things Star Wars as a kid was on par with the best of them. I'd have married R2D2 if I could, at age 5, lol.

These most recent posts with the trailer are the first I've even heard of this movie (I tend to stay out of the Movie forum because we RARELY see movies in the theater & I don't want to be spoiled on anything) and I am really excited about this. I think it's going to be fantastic, and will make a ton of money. (What constitutes "a ton", I have no idea).
 
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i think the spectre of Vader will loom over the movie, and he'll be a certain presence, but if you're expecting 30 minutes of hot Vader action, I think you'll be disappointed.

Yeah....not expecting 30 minutes of Vader but the rumors keep saying it's not some hey I popped up said some menacing stuff, barked an order and he's out. The one intriguing rumor is that you will see him fighting at some point. How much screen time that translates to? Who knows.
 

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