Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)

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Yeah, everything gets reshoots, especially big movies after test screenings. 4 weeks sounds a tad excessive, but if they are overly complicated shoots and the availability of the actors is in question, then it's understandable.

That sounded excessive to me too. I just hope that was the case and the shots were just complicated. Although, if the rumor is true they are adding more Vader...4 weeks sounds really excessive unless they involve the character in huge battle scenes.

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Looks like 4wks of re-shoots. My guess is it was probably too dark for Disney, but who knows.

Having more Vader is not a bad thing.

http://pagesix.com/2016/05/30/disney-execs-in-a-panic-over-upcoming-star-wars-film/

word is that apparently it was WAYYYYYYYY too dark. played more like a war-movie and disney is forcing them to Force Awaken it up.

that sucks. Not all the Star Wars movies have to be gee-wiz movies. I get doing that for the central trilogy, but the off-shoots could have been really interesting if they were different palettes tone wise.
 
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word is that apparently it was WAYYYYYYYY too dark. played more like a war-movie and disney is forcing them to Force Awaken it up.

that sucks. Not all the Star Wars movies have to be gee-wiz movies. I get doing that for the central trilogy, but the off-shoots could have been really interesting if they were different palettes tone wise.

THIS.

I was looking for something different, but set in the same galaxy. Who wants to see the same crap all the time? :bang:

Was looking forward to this, but not looking forward to any changes to make it more like A New Hope Part Two aka The Force Awakens.

I can only hope they will release a director's cut with the theatrical release on DVD/Blu-ray.
 

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word is that apparently it was WAYYYYYYYY too dark. played more like a war-movie and disney is forcing them to Force Awaken it up.

that sucks. Not all the Star Wars movies have to be gee-wiz movies. I get doing that for the central trilogy, but the off-shoots could have been really interesting if they were different palettes tone wise.

I read somewhere that Disney wants to target a billion per Star Wars movie. I guess they don't think they can get there with it being too dark. Also, I read that the end of this movies takes place 10 minutes before the start of ANH. That's new news to me but the idea that there is only a 10 minute gap between this movie and that one is pretty damn cool.

Some CGI Princess Leia to close that gap?
 
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word is that apparently it was WAYYYYYYYY too dark. played more like a war-movie and disney is forcing them to Force Awaken it up.

that sucks. Not all the Star Wars movies have to be gee-wiz movies. I get doing that for the central trilogy, but the off-shoots could have been really interesting if they were different palettes tone wise.

:barf:

I hope the word was wrong!
 

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I read somewhere that Disney wants to target a billion per Star Wars movie. I guess they don't think they can get there with it being too dark. Also, I read that the end of this movies takes place 10 minutes before the start of ANH. That's new news to me but the idea that there is only a 10 minute gap between this movie and that one is pretty damn cool.

Some CGI Princess Leia to close that gap?

good lord... a BILLION per movie... like, EVERY MOVIE? That's beyond unrealistic.
 

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good lord... a BILLION per movie... like, EVERY MOVIE? That's beyond unrealistic.

Agreed. I am sure it's a goal verses what they would still consider successful (i.e. 350 million type numbers). Hey...they do have a bunch of imagineers there. :)
 

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Agreed. I am sure it's a goal verses what they would still consider successful (i.e. 350 million type numbers). Hey...they do have a bunch of imagineers there. :)

oh, I think 350 worldwide would be a disaster also. They should be shooting for like 500-750 range me thinks with the anthology series, much like Marvel has started to do with the Ant-Man, Thor's, Dr. Strange and Black Panthers of the genre.

Expecting to hit a grand-slam 1 billion dollar home-run every time out the gate is going to make for some pretty cookie cutter material, IMO.
 

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oh, I think 350 worldwide would be a disaster also. They should be shooting for like 500-750 range me thinks with the anthology series, much like Marvel has started to do with the Ant-Man, Thor's, Dr. Strange and Black Panthers of the genre.



Expecting to hit a grand-slam 1 billion dollar home-run every time out the gate is going to make for some pretty cookie cutter material, IMO.



Yeah.....I was thinking domestic but I would imagine world wide would have to be at least $500 million minimum.

Also.....40% and bringing in JJ?!? That says things are much worse than I thought!
 

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word is that apparently it was WAYYYYYYYY too dark. played more like a war-movie and disney is forcing them to Force Awaken it up.

that sucks. Not all the Star Wars movies have to be gee-wiz movies. I get doing that for the central trilogy, but the off-shoots could have been really interesting if they were different palettes tone wise.

 

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Chris McQuarrie apparently has already shot that down. Variety is reporting that the reshoots are actually additions to tease the new Han Solo and that the original film won't be touched that much.

so, they're shoe-horning in new Han Solo? Great. That won't feel completely off-script I bet.

and wait... if this movie apparently ends "10 minutes" before A New Hope begins and we're seeing Han Solo in it, he's going to be that close to the origin of this story? Man, for an entire universe, it sure does seem like a small place.
 

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Yeah.....I was thinking domestic but I would imagine world wide would have to be at least $500 million minimum.

Also.....40% and bringing in JJ?!? That says things are much worse than I thought!

oh man... if they're expecting the one offs to make 350 domestic, I think they're outta they're minds.

then again, Jar Jar is my avatar for a reason.
 

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oh man... if they're expecting the one offs to make 350 domestic, I think they're outta they're minds.

then again, Jar Jar is my avatar for a reason.
A) it's Christmas break
B) it's Star Wars

it'll probably make that in the first 2-3 of weeks. Won't make what ep7 did, but it'll still rake in the $$.

I could see $1bil worldwide.
 

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A) it's Christmas break
B) it's Star Wars

it'll probably make that in the first 2-3 of weeks. Won't make what ep7 did, but it'll still rake in the $$.

I could see $1bil worldwide.

all of the above is true, but it's also Star Wars without the Skywalkers for the most part, with a little Vader thrown in. Remains to be seen how popular that will end up being. I think it'll still be big, especially since it's the first of it's kind, but how big remains to be seen.
 
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ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY (2016): Reshoots Will Make War Film Lighter In Tone

http://film-book.com/rogue-one-a-st...campaign=Feed:+film-book/dAVg+(Film-Book.com)

The reshoots are due to tone. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is to be a given a lighter tone. Apparently, since Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is war film involving a secret mission to steal the plans to a new weapon that the opposition has forged, director Gareth Edwards gave the film a war feel with very little family fun and levity.

Though appropriate, this war tone, consistently held throughout the film (I assume), would make the film singular amongst all the other Star Wars films. Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures does not want that, who’ve deemed the first cut of the film “tonally off with what a ‘classic’ Star Wars movie should feel like.” Disney executives want a film that fits comfortably within the structural environment that the best Star Wars films inhabit. They want that magic formula, that strategy, followed by Rogue One.

When Disney executives saw the completed film recently at a top level screening, they were apparently not happy with the film, specifically with how divergent it was, tone-wise, from the Star Wars norm.

My guess:

There is no love story in the film.

There is no lovable rogue.

There is very little, if any, Droid humor.

The main character, Jyn Erso, takes herself seriously at all times.

The ending to Rogue One: A Star Wars Story will be somber. If you use logic and take the information present in Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope at face value, you pretty much know how this film ends. There are only two real possibilities for the personnel on the secret mission: death or capture / life sentences. Since none of the people on the secret mission are ever seen again (or mentioned or referred to by name), these are the only two possibilities. I am guessing it is the former, thus the bleak, unhopeful ending to Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (even though their sacrifice eventually leads to a great victory for the Rebel Alliance).

You can see why the Disney executives wanted changes made to “lighten the mood, bring some levity into the story and restore a sense of fun to the adventure.” Those changes, those reshoots, will begin this month.
 

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ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY (2016): Reshoots Will Make War Film Lighter In Tone

http://film-book.com/rogue-one-a-st...campaign=Feed:+film-book/dAVg+(Film-Book.com)

The reshoots are due to tone. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is to be a given a lighter tone. Apparently, since Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is war film involving a secret mission to steal the plans to a new weapon that the opposition has forged, director Gareth Edwards gave the film a war feel with very little family fun and levity.

Though appropriate, this war tone, consistently held throughout the film (I assume), would make the film singular amongst all the other Star Wars films. Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures does not want that, who’ve deemed the first cut of the film “tonally off with what a ‘classic’ Star Wars movie should feel like.” Disney executives want a film that fits comfortably within the structural environment that the best Star Wars films inhabit. They want that magic formula, that strategy, followed by Rogue One.

When Disney executives saw the completed film recently at a top level screening, they were apparently not happy with the film, specifically with how divergent it was, tone-wise, from the Star Wars norm.

My guess:

There is no love story in the film.

There is no lovable rogue.

There is very little, if any, Droid humor.

The main character, Jyn Erso, takes herself seriously at all times.

The ending to Rogue One: A Star Wars Story will be somber. If you use logic and take the information present in Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope at face value, you pretty much know how this film ends. There are only two real possibilities for the personnel on the secret mission: death or capture / life sentences. Since none of the people on the secret mission are ever seen again (or mentioned or referred to by name), these are the only two possibilities. I am guessing it is the former, thus the bleak, unhopeful ending to Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (even though their sacrifice eventually leads to a great victory for the Rebel Alliance).

You can see why the Disney executives wanted changes made to “lighten the mood, bring some levity into the story and restore a sense of fun to the adventure.” Those changes, those reshoots, will begin this month.

I'm starting to really, REALLY struggle to want to watch this anymore. How pathetic. Shove your sunshine where the sun don't shine, Disney. You're not going to make a billion a year with a movie a year shoving sunshiny pap down our throats. This is strike one against the Disney buyout of Star Wars, IMO. 1 1/2, if you count the remake aspect of Force Awakens which, until now, I wasn't inclined to do. How freaking stupid.
 

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sounds like they will be giving leah the death star plans right before she loads them into r2d2 and they will all die when vader takes her ship.


IMO... going back into "prequel" mode is a mistake.....adding more vader is a mistake.....

they have established a new generation with a new villain.... pimping vader is just going to forcibly remind everyone exactly how poor a villain kylo renn actually is.
 

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If this truly takes place 10 minutes before the original Star Wars we know that probably just about everyone dies. I guess it makes sense to have Vader for that reason alone. Personally, the only way I want to see Vader in anymore prequel scenes...is for hunting Jedi.

It's just this movie is starting to sound messy. Shoe horning Han Solo just to promote the next film. Plus....we know this is a one shot and the current state of the film is "dark". So, I can pretty much bank on most of the character biting the dust. Sounds like a really predictable and now with the re-shoots..a mess in the making.
 
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If this truly takes place 10 minutes before the original Star Wars we know that probably just about everyone dies.

It's just this movie is starting to sound messy. Shoe horning Han Solo just to promote the next film, Mon Matha saying "Many Bothans died to bring us this information"...yet there are no Bothans in the trailer or as part of the team.

Plus....we know this is a one shot and the current state of the film is "dark". So, I can pretty much bank on most of the character biting the dust. Sounds like a really predictable and now with the re-shoots..a mess in the making.

FYI, the Bothans line was in reference to the group that acquired the plans to the second Death Star, not the first.
 

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FYI, the Bothans line was in reference to the group that acquired the plans to the second Death Star, not the first.

Yep, you are right. Got the two scenes revealing the plans mixed up.
 

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