Hmm... Lindley, Skelton, Kolb; Bartel; Hall, Anderson; then add in St. Pierre, Leinart, and Warner and you have 9 in 4 years.
And since Warner, not a single NFL quality starter among the bunch. Three of the nine are out of the league.
Ulch.
...dave
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Hmm... Lindley, Skelton, Kolb; Bartel; Hall, Anderson; then add in St. Pierre, Leinart, and Warner and you have 9 in 4 years.
And since Warner, not a single NFL quality starter among the bunch. Three of the nine are out of the league.
Ulch.
...dave
Aside from recognizing that Warner needed to play ahead of Leinart, there's no evidence to argue against your point. But on the other hand, it's not as though Whis / the Cardinals had a lot better QBs from which to choose.
When the Cardinals pursued Kolb, it was pretty much between him and Kyle Orton (where's he now?), with some advocating for Alex Smith. It's obvious now, or at least highly likely, that Smith was the best choice.
Someone posted on another thread all of the QBs who were taken next after the Cardinals' first round picks; most of them have done very little, or at best haven't shown that they would've been better than whomever the Cards picked in the first round instead.
The only guy the Cards had a legitimate shot of getting who clearly could've fixed this mess was Manning, and we may never really know why that fell through, but the team did pursue him.
So perhaps there were opportunities to get some other QBs on the roster besides the dreck we have, but after Warner retired and Leinart punked his way off the team, Kolb seemed to most like the best available option (i liked Orton... ulch), and then Skelton looked to have some intangible winning touch.
Right now, he has no good options but one thing we do know is that Skelton is horrific (yes i think that's the only adjective powerful enough to describe his degree of awfulness) so might as well see what Lindley can show.
...dave
I wish they had waited to announce this till after I got off of work and put a bet on the Rams +2.5. Now the line is going to change.
Nope, didn't budge a hook. Guess that shows how big the bettors think the difference is between Skelton and Lindley.
...dave
Paso Fino
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This is what the NFL Combine said:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/ryan-lindley?id=2532894
Basically, he has an incredible arm but makes mistakes. Could eventually be a starter.
Unfortunately for him, he is being thrown into the big time sooner than he should be. If he does not succeed, his future is dim and he may never get the chance to reach his potentia.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/ryan-lindley?id=2532894
Basically, he has an incredible arm but makes mistakes. Could eventually be a starter.
Unfortunately for him, he is being thrown into the big time sooner than he should be. If he does not succeed, his future is dim and he may never get the chance to reach his potentia.
Rams/Cards is the big time???
For the record, I hope like the dickens he does well... not overly optimistic about it, but it sure would be nice.
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imaCafan
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So this page gives him a 71.5 overall rating, which in turn calls him a second-third rounder.....
I think starting Lindley is a joke. Just another guy to throw out there so he can prove he isn't a legitimate starter in the NFL. Exactly like Skelton or Max Hall. I'm so completely demoralized with this team. What a complete waste of time.
It is. But what else are the Cards going to do? The season is over might as well throw the rookie out there so there'll be some reason to watch the game. To see how he does. Sadly I think he'll look like Mathew Brian Anderson. Or maybe Richard Maximilian Skelton-Kolb III.
WildBB
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Sadly. They made a comment on Ryan Mallet yeaterday and how he just gets to sit and learn behind one of the best in the game and that his chance will come sometime 2-3 yrs. barring injury. Thats after sitting two yrs. already. Same with GB and Rogers.
The Cards have no future plan and barely enough present.
There needs to be some changes because I don't see them competing as it stands. No running game, no enough downfield passing to speak of. Poor line play which exaserbates both.
moosehead
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So does this mean Skelton is done? The analyst on Channel 12 last night felt this was the end of the road for Skelton; here at least and maybe the NFL.
Paso Fino
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It is the end with the Cardinals unless Lindley gets hurt. I can't see Whiz reversing himself and putting Skelton back in unless Whiz has no other choice. The best thing for Skelton right now is to be cut by the Cardinals and hope another team will pick him up.
Can't really tell if its the end for DD in the NFL given that Josh McCown was still in the league last time I checked.
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If we're 6 and 6 in a few weeks, we're playing for more than that.
Goldfield
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I guess you are right. But the way this O has been I don't get much hope.
Too bad because the D has been very good for the most part.
Let's just say, that at the end of last season, I wrote a thread called, The Skelton and Kolb are garbage thread. Yes, I took tons of heat for it, especially after Kolb lead us to a 4-0 start. I ate crow for that one. Then Kolb was injured(again) which enabled me to write the thread titled, The Skelton and Kolb are STILL garbage thread. My next thread is going to be called, The Skelton, Kolb and Lindley are garbage and we need a new QB thread.
Just keep this in mind. Last year the Cards were 1-6. Then they had to start the worst QB in the history of the NFL other than Max Hall, just ask Shane or Gee they'll tell you, and won 7 of their next 9 games.
Playoffs baby!
Playoffs baby!
kerouac9
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That's what I don't get. Skelton's Interception percentage is almost half of what it was last season. Of course, his TD% is also 25% of what it was last year.
I get that Skelton looked bad against the Falcons, but the Georgia Dome isn't an easy place to play, and as people never tire of reminding us, even Kurt Warner had 4 INT games sometimes.
I guess that if your stats decline three games in a row, you better get injured for half the season if, or he's going to bench you until he runs out of options behind you.
It's remarkably poor journalism that the local media hasn't come out and asked Whis if and how he believes that Ryan Lindley gives the Cards the best chance to win against the St. Louis Rams.
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Poor journalism?
2 TDs and 5 interceptions in the last 179 throws makes the question redundant.
moosehead
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I was all for Skelton last year, but he honestly seems to be regressing....
It must be beyond a bad start in Atlanta for the quick hook, he must be really missing a lot on tape for them to go to Lindley so quickly. Or maybe Whiz is just grasping at straws...guess we will know this weekend depending on how Lindley performs - if his rating is above 70, I would say Whiz made a good move (which is a sign of how bad Skelton is playing)
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I'm just trying to figure out why Whiz took x amount of years to finally see what most already knew. Skelton is hot garbage. There was a reason he went to Fordham to play college ball. Sorry. The truth hurts sometimes.
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It's hard to evaluate anyone when you have a world class cluster going on. Human turnstyles as O linemen don't help.
Then on top of that, throw in fundamental inablility to find any QB with NFL caliber talent and you get what we're continually getting, long losing streaks every year.
Whiz you have one more year, if this happens again next year, I'm going to call for your job.
Then on top of that, throw in fundamental inablility to find any QB with NFL caliber talent and you get what we're continually getting, long losing streaks every year.
Whiz you have one more year, if this happens again next year, I'm going to call for your job.
Let's see after the Rams game if Lindley can improve on his college career accuracy completion average of 55% (remember, that included those small schools that did not play pass defense and he feasted on them). If not, then we will see why the other teams passed on Lindley which was due to his major accuracy problems.
