Ryan Williams cut!

[cardncubfan]

His kneecap got shoved up into his thigh and when he got back on the field he wrecked his shoulder. I think he did indeed put himself on the line for the Cards. Totally unfair to this young man to claim that he did nothing but take up space. He gets to live with the damage for the rest of his life---and don't even think the amount of money he got paid will pay for his future physical problems.

Best of luck to Mr. Williams. Success if you try to continue your football career.

+1

 

[cardncubfan]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. He chose the profession and knew the consequences that came with it. He is not a victim in all of this. That being said, I agree that he probably did everything he could to try and make an impact on this team. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough. I don't fault guys whose bodies just can't handle the beating that professional football deals out, but it is part of the game.

I don't think he was saying that RW was a victim Chopper. He was just disputing that RW did nothing for the team imo.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

He was taken well before Demarco Murray...shame.

 

[Hollywood]

I <don't say *******> feel <don't say *******> bad <don't say *******> for <don't say *******> Ryan <don't say *******> *******!!

(nailed it!)

5/5

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm a bit concerned about the Cardinals depth at RB.

nothing changed from yesterday to today as far as that was concerned, IMO. The guy was never going to play for Arians. That was made pretty crystal clear
last year.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Hey Cardiac! You knew this post was coming.

Ryan Williams joins the illustrious list of RBs taken in the second round by the Cardinals. Since 1960 not one of their 2nd round RBs has ever panned out for the Cards. NONE!

Williams
Arrington
McElroy
Levy
Anthony Thompson
Tony Jeffery
Theotis Brown
George Franklin
Jim Germany*

* Jim Germany never played in the NFL instead going to the CFL where he became a star RB playing on 5 Grey Cup Championship teams.

I thought Anthony Thompson had a legit shot to be special and then we had to select him in the second lol

 

[DoTheDew]

RB is one position guys can go undrafted or be picked up off the waiver wire and give a solid 5 seasons for a team. I'm not concerned. We'll pick someone up after the preseason cuts who makes the team.

 

[Cardiac]

Hey Cardiac! You knew this post was coming.

Ryan Williams joins the illustrious list of RBs taken in the second round by the Cardinals. Since 1960 not one of their 2nd round RBs has ever panned out for the Cards. NONE!

Williams
Arrington
McElroy
Levy
Anthony Thompson
Tony Jeffery
Theotis Brown
George Franklin
Jim Germany*

* Jim Germany never played in the NFL instead going to the CFL where he became a star RB playing on 5 Grey Cup Championship teams.

Quite the list.

The players have shown up for OTA's so maybe Ryan didn't or did and his knee still isn't right, as Cheesebeef predicted.

Duck, you must send this to SK so he knows to never draft another RB in Rd2.

 

[desertdawg]

I think I lost a bet to the Mullman.

 

[Red Dawn]

His injury in the preseason game against the Pack was a real bummer. Good luck to him.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Career stats with the Cardinals.

58 carries
164 yards
2.8 ypc
2 fumbles, both lost

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At least we know who recovered the fumbles

 

[oaken1]

kinda suxx...was excited when we got the kid....

but hey,...we won that draft....remember?

 

[dylanbw]

Hey Cardiac! You knew this post was coming.

Ryan Williams joins the illustrious list of RBs taken in the second round by the Cardinals. Since 1960 not one of their 2nd round RBs has ever panned out for the Cards. NONE!

Williams
Arrington
McElroy
Levy
Anthony Thompson
Tony Jeffery
Theotis Brown
George Franklin
Jim Germany*

* Jim Germany never played in the NFL instead going to the CFL where he became a star RB playing on 5 Grey Cup Championship teams.

The worst of that bunch was actually tony jeffrey, who did absolutely nothing, and was taken just a few picks before the Bills took Thurman Thomas. Thurman was the original "guy sitting on his couch with the espn camera checking in every 10 minutes"......just kept dropping for no reason yet the Cards still passed......what a sad franchise we once were....michael bidwill has done a great job taking over for his pops.....

 

[Jetstream Green]

Ryan Williams got injured and was never the same. I'm not going to pity the guy because pity is the last thing a professional athlete wants. He worked his butt off and could not get up to the brutal level of the NFL. Playing professional football is a privilege and only a few are good enough. It is not like Thomas Jones called him on the phone and he injured himself, it was a severe injury and he has my respect

 

[cardncubfan]

Ryan Williams got injured and was never the same. I'm not going to pity the guy because pity is the last thing a professional athlete wants. He worked his butt off and could not get up to the brutal level of the NFL. Playing professional football is a privilege and only a few are good enough. It is not like Thomas Jones called him on the phone and he injured himself, it was a severe injury and he has my respect

 

[Totally_Red]

The BA&SK regime's mantra is physical toughness and football passion. Ryan Williams didn't bring those elements. Neither did Levi Brown.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He doesn't deserve to be bashed as he limps out the door after suffering two severe injuries.

People sure didn't have a problem doing that when Wells was cut.

With Wells, who actually fought through injuries to play and produced for the Cards, it was good riddance, don't let the door hit you, what a bum amongst other things.

 

[Osbern61]

My favorite Ryan Williams moment was the closing minutes against the Eagles in week 3 in 2012, when he was bulldozing yards and chewing clock in our victory. Little did I know they were our closing moments of success that year.

 

[Mulli]

I think I lost a bet to the Mullman.

You are correct, sir!

 

[Chopper0080]

Let's not put words in my post that are not there. Where did I claim that he was a victim?

He doesn't deserve to be bashed as he limps out the door after suffering two severe injuries.

"He gets to live with the damage for the rest of his life---and don't even think the amount of money he got paid will pay for his future physical problems."

That statement comes across as he is a victim to me. You reference the long term physical issues you believe he will have and state that his compensation will not be enough to cover those issues. Maybe that was not your intention, but that is how it reads.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

"He gets to live with the damage for the rest of his life---and don't even think the amount of money he got paid will pay for his future physical problems."

That statement comes across as he is a victim to me. You reference the long term physical issues you believe he will have and state that his compensation will not be enough to cover those issues. Maybe that was not your intention, but that is how it reads.

Agreed.

This is nothing towards either poster personally, just going to get up on my soap box for a second.............

I paid to play rugby, and have "damage for the rest of my life". Its called making decisions and living with consequences.

I chose to play rugby, and knew the damage I put on my body. If Ryan Williams "doesn't have the means" to treat the injuries he has suffered then again, it falls on him. I made the choice to play rugby, but also made the choice to get engineering credentials.

I never got paid football money at any point in my life, and yet I am able to put myself in a position to have said means to deal with whatever health problems I have to deal with.

To be honest, I find it to be ridiculous to have to hear about the "Woe is me" BS that comes from professional athletes and their "pain and suffering" they have to "endure" after sports.

There a so many people that suffer far worse tales of health problems that don't have hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to their name. It is obnoxious to hear stories of former football players that complain about what happened to them for getting paid VERY well.

It is a choice. If you don't want to get hurt then don't go out on the field. Period. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

Yet, in the same vein, if you don't play sports, then don't complain that the only stories and memories are from work and what you watched on TV in your lifetime either.

Yeah, I am beat up, and have some health issues, but it was worth every penny paid, and every screwed up body part. I would not trade my experiences playing sports, especially rugby for anything. It was so much fun, and did so much for me.

It was a decision I made, I take full responsibility for it, and nobody ever forced it upon. Thus the situations that arise from the effects of playing sports are also my responsibility to deal with.

As for Ryan Williams being given a hard time while walking out the door ? As sports talk goes, it comes with playing in the NFL. It is a business, and the business's culture is that people talk about players like playing cards when it comes to football related business.

Seemed like a nice guy, but he was a HUGE bust for the Cardinals.

 

[GimmedaBall]

This is the original post by JMT that I responded to:

Good! He never did anything for the Cardinals except take up space.

"He gets to live with the damage for the rest of his life---and don't even think the amount of money he got paid will pay for his future physical problems."

That statement comes across as he is a victim to me. You reference the long term physical issues you believe he will have and state that his compensation will not be enough to cover those issues. Maybe that was not your intention, but that is how it reads.

That is how you read my statement. Once again, don't put words into my statement that are not there. If I felt he was a 'victim' I would have stated so. RW had two severe injuries while wearing the Cardinal uniform. For that, he deserves our thanks and our respect and our best wishes. Not the comment made by JMT. Period. Do you agree with JMT? Now if you want to continue to try and prove you are 'right' be my guest.

I have nothing to respond to beyond what I stated in my original post and the rebuttals to you where you are trying to prove that you are 'right' in your attempt to add language that is not there.

 

[GimmedaBall]

People sure didn't have a problem doing that when Wells was cut.

With Wells, who actually fought through injuries to play and produced for the Cards, it was good riddance, don't let the door hit you, what a bum amongst other things.

Agree. I don't understand why some fans believe it is OK to treat players who were injured and then can no longer perform with such hate and disrespect.

 

[oaken1]

Agreed.

This is nothing towards either poster personally, just going to get up on my soap box for a second.............

I paid to play rugby, and have "damage for the rest of my life". Its called making decisions and living with consequences.

I chose to play rugby, and knew the damage I put on my body. If Ryan Williams "doesn't have the means" to treat the injuries he has suffered then again, it falls on him. I made the choice to play rugby, but also made the choice to get engineering credentials.

I never got paid football money at any point in my life, and yet I am able to put myself in a position to have said means to deal with whatever health problems I have to deal with.

To be honest, I find it to be ridiculous to have to hear about the "Woe is me" BS that comes from professional athletes and their "pain and suffering" they have to "endure" after sports.

There a so many people that suffer far worse tales of health problems that don't have hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to their name. It is obnoxious to hear stories of former football players that complain about what happened to them for getting paid VERY well.

It is a choice. If you don't want to get hurt then don't go out on the field. Period. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

Yet, in the same vein, if you don't play sports, then don't complain that the only stories and memories are from work and what you watched on TV in your lifetime either.

Yeah, I am beat up, and have some health issues, but it was worth every penny paid, and every screwed up body part. I would not trade my experiences playing sports, especially rugby for anything. It was so much fun, and did so much for me.

It was a decision I made, I take full responsibility for it, and nobody ever forced it upon. Thus the situations that arise from the effects of playing sports are also my responsibility to deal with.

As for Ryan Williams being given a hard time while walking out the door ? As sports talk goes, it comes with playing in the NFL. It is a business, and the business's culture is that people talk about players like playing cards when it comes to football related business.

Seemed like a nice guy, but he was a HUGE bust for the Cardinals.

I agree wholeheartedly...unfortunately it is a symptom of the pussification of football and America in general.....truly disheartening and embarrassing.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is the original post by JMT that I responded to:






That is how you read my statement. Once again, don't put words into my statement that are not there. If I felt he was a 'victim' I would have stated so. RW had two severe injuries while wearing the Cardinal uniform. For that, he deserves our thanks and our respect and our best wishes. Not the comment made by JMT. Period. Do you agree with JMT? Now if you want to continue to try and prove you are 'right' be my guest.

I have nothing to respond to beyond what I stated in my original post and the rebuttals to you where you are trying to prove that you are 'right' in your attempt to add language that is not there.

Victim defined: a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

"He gets to live with the damage for the rest of his life---and don't even think the amount of money he got paid will pay for his future physical problems."

So let's put these two together. You stated Ryan Williams "gets to live with the damage for the rest of his life". So you stated Ryan Williams was a person who was injured as the result of playing football.

It isn't my interpretation, it is what you said. If you intended it differently, just say it.